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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCaught a midnight screening of Alien: Covfefe last night
Started off fairly conventional but went nuts toward the end and then just sort of fell apart.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I figured out the second it happened and spent the last few minutes wondering why the characters were so clueless.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)I hate to derail my stinking political satire, but I really couldn't believe how weak the film was.
As I have stated before: in all the universe, the person "gets" Star Wars the least is George Lucas. The person who "gets" Alien the least may very well be Ridley Scott.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I read an interview with Ridley Scott where he said that he has two more sequels to Covenant planned, which will then tie directly into Alien.
That actually helps explain why this movie felt so much like filler. Other than following the whole "kill off every member of the cast one by one" pattern, has been done to death (no pun intended), there really wasn't much more to the movie.
And you're right about the comparison to Star Wars. George Lucas made a lot of the same mistakes with the prequels, i.e., stretching them out to the point where a lot of the twists and turns probably sounded great in his head, but mostly came across as silly and unnecessary to the audience.
PJMcK
(22,029 posts)Ridley Scott directed the first "Alien" movie. In my opinion, it's one of the best science fiction/dystopic future films. In addition to the constantly building tension, the subtextual commentary about the future society lifts the movie far above any slasher films.
"Aliens" picked up where the first left off and James Cameron took all of the ideas from the first then kicked everything up several notches. Several examples are: instead of saving a cat, Ripley saves the little girl; instead of one monster, there are thousands; instead of a faceless corporation, Ripley meets the vile, corrupted managers of the corporation and the military. The final battle between two "mothers" fighting for their babies was a powerful finale.
Then the series went off track. The third and fourth films were ludicrous and "Prometheus" was just dumb. I'm not excited about seeing the new film and will probably wait for a disc or streamed version. In these last two films, I agree, Orrex, that both Lucas and Scott lost their visions somewhere.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)I watched it a few months ago and it's still amazing. The isolation, the unknown, the "alien-ness," and the pure horror are all pitch perfect.
And then I watched Prometheus...
PJMcK
(22,029 posts)Your comment about George Lucas and Ridley Scott caused me to think of the Star Trek universe. In almost all of the iterations of that fantasy, the writers and producers stay true to Gene Roddenberry's original ideas. I'm not saying that they're perfect but there is a philosophical-- and even a pseudo-scientific-- consistency to those stories.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)The argument can readily made that Roddenberry had no real idea of the "vibe" of creation, either.