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Caught a midnight screening of Alien: Covfefe last night (Original Post) Orrex May 2017 OP
and the covfefe larvae were implanted in everyone. Solly Mack May 2017 #1
Covfefe of the "twist" ruined it for me. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #2
Most of the movie was like that Orrex May 2017 #3
Totally and completely agree. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #4
Except for the original film PJMcK May 2017 #5
The first film is IMO close to flawless Orrex May 2017 #6
Another thought PJMcK May 2017 #7
Although that's true... Orrex May 2017 #8

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
2. Covfefe of the "twist" ruined it for me.
Wed May 31, 2017, 08:00 AM
May 2017

I figured out the second it happened and spent the last few minutes wondering why the characters were so clueless.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
3. Most of the movie was like that
Wed May 31, 2017, 08:14 AM
May 2017

I hate to derail my stinking political satire, but I really couldn't believe how weak the film was.

As I have stated before: in all the universe, the person "gets" Star Wars the least is George Lucas. The person who "gets" Alien the least may very well be Ridley Scott.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
4. Totally and completely agree.
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:05 AM
May 2017

I read an interview with Ridley Scott where he said that he has two more sequels to Covenant planned, which will then tie directly into Alien.

That actually helps explain why this movie felt so much like filler. Other than following the whole "kill off every member of the cast one by one" pattern, has been done to death (no pun intended), there really wasn't much more to the movie.

And you're right about the comparison to Star Wars. George Lucas made a lot of the same mistakes with the prequels, i.e., stretching them out to the point where a lot of the twists and turns probably sounded great in his head, but mostly came across as silly and unnecessary to the audience.

PJMcK

(22,029 posts)
5. Except for the original film
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:16 AM
May 2017

Ridley Scott directed the first "Alien" movie. In my opinion, it's one of the best science fiction/dystopic future films. In addition to the constantly building tension, the subtextual commentary about the future society lifts the movie far above any slasher films.

"Aliens" picked up where the first left off and James Cameron took all of the ideas from the first then kicked everything up several notches. Several examples are: instead of saving a cat, Ripley saves the little girl; instead of one monster, there are thousands; instead of a faceless corporation, Ripley meets the vile, corrupted managers of the corporation and the military. The final battle between two "mothers" fighting for their babies was a powerful finale.

Then the series went off track. The third and fourth films were ludicrous and "Prometheus" was just dumb. I'm not excited about seeing the new film and will probably wait for a disc or streamed version. In these last two films, I agree, Orrex, that both Lucas and Scott lost their visions somewhere.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
6. The first film is IMO close to flawless
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:25 AM
May 2017

I watched it a few months ago and it's still amazing. The isolation, the unknown, the "alien-ness," and the pure horror are all pitch perfect.

And then I watched Prometheus...

PJMcK

(22,029 posts)
7. Another thought
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

Your comment about George Lucas and Ridley Scott caused me to think of the Star Trek universe. In almost all of the iterations of that fantasy, the writers and producers stay true to Gene Roddenberry's original ideas. I'm not saying that they're perfect but there is a philosophical-- and even a pseudo-scientific-- consistency to those stories.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
8. Although that's true...
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:49 PM
May 2017

The argument can readily made that Roddenberry had no real idea of the "vibe" of creation, either.

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