"Too Czmart for His Own Good" - Slate

[orangecrush]

Like the proverbial dog chasing after a car, Putin has long tried to interfere in the political life of rival countries whether by seeking to buy off politicians or by using clumsily designed disinformation campaigns to move the discourse in a more pro-Putin direction. Though a victory by Donald Trump in 2016 might have seemed unlikely, Putin presumably thought it would be worth his while to take Hillary Clinton down a peg or two regardless of the outcome of the election. When Trump actually won, well, the dog finally caught the car. So, how well has Putin’s maneuvering worked out for him and for Russia?

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To many, the answer is obvious: This has been an absurdly successful gambit. There is a widespread fear in Europe that the Trump presidency has already damaged NATO, which in turn has created an enormous opportunity for Putin’s Russia. This is not at all a ridiculous notion. As someone who has long believed that the U.S. ought to increase its defense budget to counter the Russian threat, I take it very seriously.

But let’s consider the possibility that Putin has made a terrible mistake.

Just a few years ago, Mitt Romney was widely ridiculed for claiming that Russia was America’s chief geopolitical adversary. The notion that the U.S. ought to redouble its efforts to counter Russian aggression and to shore up the NATO alliance was seen by many as an anachronism—a throwback to Cold War–era thinking that had no place in the 21st century. During his first term as president, Barack Obama sought to “reset” relations with Putin’s Russia by, among other things, dropping plans to deploy a missile defense shield to protect U.S. allies in Eastern Europe and agreeing to an arms control agreement that was frankly a much better deal for Russia than it was for the U.S. At a summit in Seoul in March 2012, in an exchange not intended for public consumption, Obama assured his Russian counterpart, then-President Dmitry Medvedev, that he might be willing to go even further in accommodating Russia’s interests, but that he needed some breathing room as he ran for his second term. “This is my last election,” Obama explained. “After my election, I have more flexibility.”

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Suffice it to say, Obama soon realized that Romney had a point. Shortly after Putin returned to the presidency, he embarked on a series of astonishingly aggressive moves, including but not limited to the invasion and annexation of Crimea; using “little green men” special operations forces to bolster ragtag pro-Russian separatist militias in eastern Ukraine; launching a massive intervention on behalf of the Assad regime in Syria, partly as an opportunity to show off its new military hardware; and stepping up its efforts to threaten and intimidate the Baltic states. Whereas anti-Russian sentiment was once concentrated among GOP hawks, Democratic foreign policy thinkers, including those surrounding Hillary Clinton, started talking tougher about Putin. Then after Clinton’s defeat in November, the Democratic Party as a whole truly caught anti-Russia fever "

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The "gay Putin clown meme" is now banned in Russia.
Fuck the homophobic bastard.




http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/05/vladimir_putin_may_look_like_a_genius_for_aligning_himself_with_donald_trump.html

[nocalflea]

1. I don't think Obama was naive about Putin, I think he was diplomatic in his public comments.

Though he did make me cringe when he mocked Romney in the debate.
There's always been that dark undercurrent to Putin. Menace. You can feel it.
Victorious in the moment ? Yes. In the longer term, I think he's finished.
Persona non grata is a lousy hand to hold . Hell is going to rain down on him and his backers .The oligarchs know this . Putin knows this. They'll stretch out the victory as long as they can , but they're toast .

[orangecrush]

3. All very true

But in the meantime, we have to work to eject Putins stooges from the White House and Congress.

[Blue Ridge Virginia]

2. Aggression against all Russia's neighbors and most of the rest of the world

...cannot be a winning strategy in the long run; even though it may majorly screw up the whole planet and drag other countries (notably ours) to Russia's level in terms of corruption and autocracy, it won't do a damn bit of good for the Russian people.

[orangecrush]

4. Either our intelligence community

Puts a stop to this, or we are finished as a nation.

Just my 2 cents.