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[LiberalLoner]

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[leftstreet]

1. The more Trump fucks up, the more aggressive they'll get

I would guess

The more he's exposed as a demented fraud, the more they'll need a place to vent their rage at themselves for getting duped

[arthritisR_US]

13. Their cognitive dissonance is on overdrive. nt

[Ilsa]

2. They are noticing their guy is

getting squeezed between a rock and a hard place. They know, deep down, that the suspicions all fit perfectly and it aggravated them that they were duped by T and Putin.

[tazkcmo]

3. Unlike the above responses

I attribute their anger to being stupid.

[YCHDT]

4. They have little left outside of aggression now

[Blue_true]

16. I agree. Their point of view is headed for the dustbin of history.

The Dumpster hasn't and won't make their lives better, they are trying to vent the stress as that becomes more and more obvious.

[LiberalLoner]

39. That makes a lot of sense to me. They seem to be fighting as if they were losing desperately.

Not as if they had won the last election.

[GeoWilliam750]

45. It is easier to fool somebody

Than it is to convince them that they have been fooled

[Else You Are Mad]

5. I have a theory about this.

Since the Tea Party took over the GOP in 2010 most of the 'sensible' and moderate conservatives have since considered themselves liberals. I have witnessed it myself with a few family members. The few remaining self identified conservatives that remain are what we're considered the fringe whack jobs.

[Phoenix61]

6. I think they believed Twitler was going to

pass all kinds of "great" laws. How could he not, they have control of the house and senate. It hasn't happened because he is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, dumb as a box of rocks and bat shit crazy. They see it but can't quite wrap their heads around it. Is it possible Hillary was right? How is that possible? So they try to double down but it comes out as word salad because they don't have a leg to stand on.

[TNLib]

7. I think the Fringe Right is ratcheting up the BS

On social media. To keep their base crazy and stupid. Been seeing allot more nonsense on social media these days.

[marylandblue]

8. I think it's a disturbibg trend leading to authoritarianism

Trump is their leader and they will back him by any means necessary.

[defacto7]

9. and I'd like to add....

^^^ It's all of the above mentioned ^^^

[pnwest]

11. this. And I see it as a final fighting strike from a dying, cornered, enraged animal who

knows he's cooked. Pure rage at the dying. I've viewed the Republicans' ratcheting up the hatred and fear-mongering this way since President Obama won. Cultural fear, racial anxiety - whatever - they know the days are numbered for their "kind" and America is changing. And I think the aggression is going to get worse, it's not over yet.

[smirkymonkey]

20. +1000

This. You would think they would bask in their victories, not lash out at the side who lost. I can't think of any other reason why their anger is just expanding besides the one you mentioned.

"A candle burns it's brightest before it goes out." Of course, they aren't bright and they aren't shedding any light, but I think that this show of "strength", force, rage, power - whatever you want to call it - are the death throes of the extreme right.

[LiberalLoner]

40. I agree with you both. This explanation makes the most sense to me.

[Horse with no Name]

10. They think "we" are standing between their leader and their jobs that he promised them

I implore people that live in danger zones of red areas to stay vigilant.
I expect it will get worse before it gets better.

[LiberalLoner]

41. +1

[maveric]

12. It's been very quiet here in San Diego.

No Trump bumper stickers. No maga hats. No frothing maniacs.
Just quiet. So far.

[maryellen99]

14. My husband's cousin has been on a FB posting spree

Mostly posting about the military, how The Russia story is a lie, and responding to a FB post about Jimmy Carter that he used to be a real Christian but now he's a traitor She's also a RW Christian nut. I had to unfollow her plus a lot of my husband's extended family are Trumpbots and it's not due to economic anxiety. They wouldn't like me anymore if they found out I was a liberal.

[Egnever]

15. More and more I blame it on FOX

Sure they are idiots that listen to FOX but day after day the message on their is that trump is being persecuted by liberals angry over the loss.

FOX spews hate to them 24/7 it really is not the least bit surprising they run with it.

[Volaris]

42. Not persecuted. PROSECUTED.

Tell them that failure at spelling is their problem, not yours.

[GeoWilliam750]

46. The only vote that matters in the entire world

belongs to Rupert Murdoch, and he is voting with the Russians

[tblue37]

17. Many of them drop Trumpo's name while being nasty to women and PoCs, so I think

They just feel liberated now from politeness and decency (or as they term it, "political correctness&quot .

[dumbcat]

18. All you have to do s look at our sister site

Discussionist. The Cons are getting really uppity.

[byronius]

31. Dude, you made me look.

What a fucking sewer.

[world wide wally]

19. Yes, I have noticed that too.

[Xipe Totec]

21. They are in the second stage of Grief - Anger

They've transitioned from denial to anger. That's a good sign, in a way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

[mrmpa]

22. Okay I got RW as right wing, but.........

what the hell is NJ's. Please in an OP, when using "new" shorthand spell it out for us simpletons. Thanks!!

[They_Live]

26. Nut Jobs

The kind of jobs that the Right Wing creates.

[mrmpa]

37. got it. Thanks....eom

[gratuitous]

23. Totally anecdotal, but yes

Admitting their error in supporting Trump is well beyond most of their capability. By contrast, for anything a Democrat does, good or bad, you'll see at least three opinions here at DU or at other liberal message boards. The grossest fuck up by a Republican is defended to the utmost by conservatives. It is not in their nature to criticize their own.

[Texin]

24. RWNJs

To the OP, I'd say the answer to your possible two scenarios is the latter option. The most vocal nut jobs have always been the most extreme part of that political party. They were and will be to their last breath on earth haters of "others" and the males and some of their female clan are also misogynists, science deniers and xenophobes. They will never change, and to the extent they can influence their willing offspring, their succeeding generations won't change either. The rethuglicons - those in power over the last ten to fifteen years - are nothing more than a modern iteration of the Robber Barons of the Gilded Age and in history before them. The republicans that were part of my upbringing (I'm a Dem and so were my parents) during the '60s and throughout most of the succeeding decades up until the era of GWB were more moderate because they had not been primaried by the Cruzes of the world. The entire party now has been captured by this group of cretins and they are too afraid to do anything about it, plus they feel it's to their benefit if they continue on this path because they have adopted a zero sum mentality and the Ayn Rand approach to life: I'm gonna get mine and take yours too. The majority of rethugs fall into this category in my opinion and the rest are the hillbilly dupes that are always easily led by demagogues like Twitler.

[Initech]

25. It's almost as if they want a civil war, but are afraid to say it.

If they want a fight, I am definitely prepared for it!

[Mike Nelson]

28. Yes...

...I noticed. Recently, they have seen Hillary Clinton as a main threat. Her interview yesterday was mischaracterized by the media and led to rage in posts. Also, the Kathy Griffin (sic?) bloody head made the mad. One even shared a post with Ms. Griffin head being held - looking much more realistic than the Trump head picture.

[CrispyQ]

29. They truly believe the Con will prevail & they feel invincible. They are dangerous.

They believe he is playing the dems & the IC. Obama used the IC to put some kind of dark government in place & the Con & his Russian master are going to take it down. They can excuse almost all of the Con's Russian activity & what they can't, they don't believe.

I knew of one cousin that was a rwnj, but a few others have come out of the woodwork.

[C_U_L8R]

30. They just can't win.

Can you imagine their frustration? Even when they're winning they are losing. What kind of dumbass bozos do that? So next time a right wing nut job gets in your face, have a little sympathy as you punch it. In the end, they might even thank you.

[Stinky The Clown]

32. I'm not sure it is as big as a half inch.

[Loki Liesmith]

33. "Beating up on you"

Make sure you extract a price for that.

[DFW]

34. They think Trump is an inhibition suppressor

Just like alcohol suppresses inhibitions of people who commit violence only under the influence, Trump has somehow made these people think that if Trump can shoot someone dead on Fifth Avenue and not suffer any consequences, then so can they.

What they failed to notice was that while Trump SAID that, he never actually did it. While it might not have cost him any votes from Republican nitwits, it WOULD have cost him 25 to life in Sing Sing. That's the part the RWNJs conveniently neglect to remember.

[bresue]

35. Makes a Person Wonder if the Russian Trolls are back.....

[bresue]

36. And they did body slam a reporter last week...

[LiberalLoner]

38. Thank you all so much for your replies, it's very enlightening to read all you wrote.

I think our battle will be won only by getting rid of Fox News and other sources of fake news. I have hope when I read the average age of Fox viewers is 68 and probably going up every year.
I've read people under thirty have abandoned the Repuke party in droves and that gives me a little hope for the future.

[UCmeNdc]

43. I think they know that they voted wrong and cannot blame themselves for their misery

So they seem to be lashing out as their last bit of self respect takes a beating. It is hard to admit that Trump conned you and Putin is your real leader.

[Luz]

44. I've noticed. They don't want any dialogue, they just

want to hurl insults. I've blocked a few on fb for that reason.

[LiberalLoner]

47. Yes, exactly! That's what I mean! It's hard for me to understand what is going on with them.

I guess it would help if I watched Faux News etc. but it makes me sick to watch even a few minutes, I just get so angry. I can't do it.