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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:28 PM Jul 2012

TPP Stop the Trap Petition Delivered with Over 90,000 Signatures to the USTR

JULY 6, 2012 | BY MAIRA SUTTON

Today, two representatives of Public Citizen delivered the Stop the Trap petition—which has received over 90,000 signatures—to United States Trade Representative (USTR) officer Barbara Weisel. The petition is aimed at key government leaders and trade representatives of countries involved in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) negotiations, and it calls on them to drop all provisions in the agreement that would place heavy restrictions on the Internet and digital freedoms. We have endorsed this petition along with OpenMedia.Ca, Public Citizen, Public Knowledge, ONG Derechos Digitales, Free Press, Internet NZ, and others.



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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/07/tpp-stop-trap-petition
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TPP Stop the Trap Petition Delivered with Over 90,000 Signatures to the USTR (Original Post) limpyhobbler Jul 2012 OP
90,000 people wanting to stop the future. RB TexLa Jul 2012 #1
Oh we can most certainly stop TPP ZM90 Jul 2012 #2
I'll give you 100 to 1 odds RB TexLa Jul 2012 #3
They said the same thing about ACTA ZM90 Jul 2012 #6
RB Tex LA has a long history of attacking American workers and their interests. Zalatix Jul 2012 #8
Thanks for the heads up I just assumed RB Tex LA was being pessimistic ZM90 Jul 2012 #9
Nope, that is correct. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #18
Here you are as usual, waging your war of hate on American workers. Zalatix Jul 2012 #7
Just like NAFTA, but in steroids... nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #4
Then you must love Bain Capital. Zalatix Jul 2012 #5
and doesn't she look thrilled to be receiving this petition...? limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #10
Hey that petiton will help save the internet, I'd be thrilled to recieve it too if I were her :) ZM90 Jul 2012 #11
oops, limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #12
I apologize I couldn't tell which woman the signatures were being handed to earlier ZM90 Jul 2012 #13
no prob. Honestly I don't know much about ACTA, other than I don't like it. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #14
Yep on the final vote to ratify ACTA a strong majority of the European Paraliment ZM90 Jul 2012 #15
hmm, that's cool. can't lose 'em all I guess. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #16
Yep, the internet is at war with the corporate powers but here's the good news. ZM90 Jul 2012 #17
ok. I like the sound of that. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #19

ZM90

(706 posts)
2. Oh we can most certainly stop TPP
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jul 2012

The internet took down ACTA. The TPP will fall as well, slowly but surely. That I am confident in.

ZM90

(706 posts)
6. They said the same thing about ACTA
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jul 2012

The internet may just be the most powerful political force in the world right now and the fall of ACTA is proof that politicians and corporate interests don't get their way if the internet unites. As I said TPP is no different than ACTA other than the fact that TPP is actually more evil of course. I am not denying that us citizens of the internet have a hard fight ahead of us but it is a winnable fight.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
8. RB Tex LA has a long history of attacking American workers and their interests.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jul 2012

He or she has been shown numerous times a pile of evidence that shows that free trade is killing America and this person gets more and more strident and combative as support for free trade continues to plummet.

RB Tex LA is waking up to an America that has no tolerance for free trade.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
7. Here you are as usual, waging your war of hate on American workers.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:49 PM
Jul 2012

Free trade leads to ruin.

Protectionism works. Ask China, they've proven it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. Just like NAFTA, but in steroids...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jul 2012

That's the future you want...

Oh I forgot, NAFTA is just the best.

ZM90

(706 posts)
13. I apologize I couldn't tell which woman the signatures were being handed to earlier
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 01:26 AM
Jul 2012

but yeah now that you mention it she does look very unhappy about it. I'm sure the corporate lobbyists weren't too happy to hear ACTA go down. Now let's celebrate our victory over ACTA and we'll be sure to send TPP to Hell along with it!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
14. no prob. Honestly I don't know much about ACTA, other than I don't like it.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

Did it get defeated somewhere?

ZM90

(706 posts)
15. Yep on the final vote to ratify ACTA a strong majority of the European Paraliment
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:21 AM
Jul 2012

which had to ratify it before it could become international law voted it down. I find it awesome that ACTA went down on July 4th aka Independence Day.

ZM90

(706 posts)
17. Yep, the internet is at war with the corporate powers but here's the good news.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:40 AM
Jul 2012

We're going to win this war for internet freedom. The internet is the most people powered communication and information tool out there and that is why the corporate interests are so afraid of it. That is why they want to censor it, to silence it, to punish dissent. This episode with TPP is a ACTA repeat and as the various citizens of different countries involved in the trade agreement across the internet learn about it they will put pressure on the countries representing them and this thing will go down just like ACTA. It may be a close call like with ACTA but I am confident TPP will go down when more people learn of it as well.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
19. ok. I like the sound of that.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 03:00 AM
Jul 2012

The TPP is a much broader "free trade" deal and treaty for corporate governance. Either we can stop it or at least influence it to where the worst parts are dropped. I totally agree with you that people in power want to censor and control the internet. They fear it like you said.

TPP is wrong in about 1000 different ways. The threat to internet freedoms is another serious problem with TPP. There are so many things wrong with it I can hardly keep up.

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