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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 01:31 PM Jun 2017

Fool's Calvinism Comes Home to Roost

First, a disclaimer----John Calvin would have condemned Trump, the leader of the White House Crime Family. However, the roots of the flaw in United States culture that makes Trump's criminal enterprise possible can be found in a particular brand of Calvinism that goes something like "We are born either damned or blessed, and we can know which we are by weighing God's favor shown upon us in this life." Or, more simply "The rich are better than the rest of us."

What does Trump do every time he is caught lying, criming, conspiring? He boasts "Of course! I did it to make money!" And that makes it alright----if you subscribe to the Christian Coalition's notion that all profitable endeavors are blessed by God, otherwise they would not turn a profit. Call it Fool's Calvinism (for Fool's Gold).

Jarred, the Mob Don's favorite son-in-law did not conspire to commit treason with a foreign power. No, he set up a back channel communication line with Russia to make money.

Trump did not prey upon home owners who lost their life's savings in the mortgage meltdown because he is a "bad dude." He did it because there was profit to be made and only an ungodly man turns away from an opportunity to make money.

Trump accepts bribes for everything from cabinet picks to border wall construction contracts to U.S. foreign policy , because it is a really easy way for a President to make money. And he has placed members of his family in key administration positions, because it is an easy way to make sure that all the bribe money he is making goes into the Trump Crime Family coffers. Because under Fool's Calvinism, money becomes more valuable if it is sitting on top of more money---making it closer to God in Heaven.

Both Citizens United and Bush v. Gore are results of Fool's Calvinism. In Bush v. Gore the court ruled based upon the identity of the parties in the case, because the Bush Family and their Rich (Oil, Energy and Saudi) Backers were obviously right---if not, God would not have made them so damned rich. In Citizens United, the court said that the richest corporations in the world have a god given right to determine the outcome of U.S. elections, because they are rich and the rich have been commanded by their Fool's Calvinist God to make more money.

Fool's Calvinism is the dogma of colonialists. When King Leopold's traders chopped off the hands of Africans in the Belgian Congo so that they could account for every bullet used, when New World settlers gave the natives small pox infected blankets----these atrocities were acts of worship for the devout Fool's Calvinist.

Fool's Calvinism is the dogma of environmental terrorists. The man who dares strip mine a mountain for the riches it contains, the company that dares destroy our world's climate in order to increase its quarterly returns---these are the faithful, the chosen. The earth is transient, but (to the Fool's Calvinist) money is forever. On the great cosmic ledger that God keeps at His side, the more zeros that follow the number beside your name, the closer you will be to the front row of the heavenly choir. And, as the Spanish Inquisition and Crusades taught us, All's Fair in War and Religion.

Under Fool's Calvinism, God will not be satisfied until all the world's wealth is piled up in two or three giant stacks of gold that reach all the way to the moon--and the rest of use bow down in awe and supplication to the beauty and majesty of God's creation. Because humanity, according to the Fool's Calvinist, is a pyramid scheme, and the guy at the top is at the top because God's wants it that way.

Praise God and pass the collection plate.


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Fool's Calvinism Comes Home to Roost (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 OP
kick Dawson Leery Jun 2017 #1
"I did it to make money" coupled with is father's philosophy... eleny Jun 2017 #2
Betsy DeVos is a Calvinist! longship Jun 2017 #3
Careful how you generalize. TomSlick Jun 2017 #4
You are correct, of course. longship Jun 2017 #5
Even so, TomSlick Jun 2017 #7
You don't know the Dutch Reformed here. longship Jun 2017 #9
The problem with any Church TomSlick Jun 2017 #10
Again, you don't know the Dutch Reformed. longship Jun 2017 #11
You've intrigued me. TomSlick Jun 2017 #12
My reason... longship Jun 2017 #13
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2017 #6
As I Christian I always found Calvin to be a prick! hrmjustin Jun 2017 #8

eleny

(46,166 posts)
2. "I did it to make money" coupled with is father's philosophy...
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 01:37 PM
Jun 2017

..of "You're either a killer or a loser" makes him toxic.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Betsy DeVos is a Calvinist!
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jun 2017

She graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, which is the world headquarters of the Dutch Reformed Church, which is Calvinist through and through.

No number of good deeds in life will save your miserable soul from eternity in Hell-fire. Everybody is predestined at birth. So, one might as well get it all while one can, I guess.

They are despicable people.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
4. Careful how you generalize.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jun 2017

There are many protestant denominations that have Calvinist influences. You surely don't think that all Presbyterians, Congregationalists, etc. are despicable.


longship

(40,416 posts)
5. You are correct, of course.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jun 2017

But the Dutch Reformed crowd are pretty much despicable. They take predestination seriously serious, and live like only life matters, not the so-called afterlife.

Grand Rapids is their world center. Calvin College is their intellectual center, such as it is.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
7. Even so,
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:31 PM
Jun 2017

I have no experience with the Dutch Reformed Church here in South Arkansas. I do have experience with Southern Baptists, being one myself. Some of the worst of the folks that want to use the Bible as a cudgel are Southern Baptists. These folks do not represent all of us. These folks do not even represent what the rest of us think of as Christian, i.e. people that seek to emulate Christ.

It's unfair to paint all members of any religious group with the same brush as the despicables in that group.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. You don't know the Dutch Reformed here.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jun 2017

They ARE despicable. What their contingent has done in the MI legislature is horrible.

Betsy DeVos is a creationist who has never attended a public school in her life. Yet she is Secy of Education. She, and her ilk, are horrible people. What the Dutch Reformed church has done politically in Michigan IS despicable. BTW, it's their world headquarters.

I'll stand by my claims.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
10. The problem with any Church
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 11:03 PM
Jun 2017

is that it is chock-full of people. None are perfect and some are far from it.

You should try to find one member of the Church that is not despicable. Once found, ask him/her why s/he hangs out with these folk.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Again, you don't know the Dutch Reformed.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 11:55 PM
Jun 2017

I want nothing to do with them. I intend to keep it that way.

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. My reason...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jun 2017

My rationale is that the Dutch Reformed church is inextricably entangled with Michigan GOP politics.

My best to you.

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