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Greenwald slams Obama on the Reality Winner arrest (Original Post) Goprox Jun 2017 OP
Ummm what? nt irisblue Jun 2017 #1
I know - Very bizarre... Oneironaut Jun 2017 #19
Schinder said a Sanders DOJ would have done it too sharedvalues Jun 2017 #2
The Sessions DOJ is too stupid to offer a plea. Persisted Jun 2017 #6
Slimey fucks. After they blew her cover now they attack O who is long gone. brush Jun 2017 #3
Yeah ummm. Scoopster Jun 2017 #4
Yeah, but he agree with it, typical propaganda joeybee12 Jun 2017 #10
Your defense of Greenwald is based on weak points Goprox Jun 2017 #12
GG has to keep the focus on Obama, off Snowden. Persisted Jun 2017 #15
Defense of Greenwald? Scoopster Jun 2017 #20
Pointing out that someone retweeted something and commenting on that choice kcr Jun 2017 #22
GG can always be her attorney, right? nt Persisted Jun 2017 #5
Any DOJ would have done it. Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #7
It's classic propaganda, change the focus nt joeybee12 Jun 2017 #11
Greenwald disagrees with the charges Goprox Jun 2017 #21
Why not opine on whether the Truman admin would have arrested her, ExciteBike66 Jun 2017 #8
Who cares? Greenwald is a piece of shit anyway Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #9
See? Both sides do it. Real Republicans and imaginary Democrats are equally bad. DetlefK Jun 2017 #13
You did it Greenwald for your Russian buddies. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #14
Greenwald is shit. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #16
Russian stoog did what? stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #17
Greenwald? Bueler? Anybody? mountain grammy Jun 2017 #18
? I saw multiple journalists retweet this and/or say something to a similar effect. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #23
Tell me which journalists retweeted it Goprox Jun 2017 #24
How is it Russophilia to point out the the Obama administration like most others before him.. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #26
Greenwald got a damning leak on Russia interference and the leaker was caught in an hour alcibiades_mystery Jun 2017 #25
Never mind that . . . DeltaLitProf Jun 2017 #27

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. Schinder said a Sanders DOJ would have done it too
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jun 2017

Let's get DJT and the traitors and plutocrats in the GOP out.

Then we can work on discussing Ms. Winner's penalty. I suspect she'll serve about a year total.
She made some mistakes-- should have redacted a lot more before sending to the media. But it seems she's in the Ellsberg class of patriotic Americans concerned about what the public knows. Civil disobedience like that can carry some penalty.

 

Persisted

(290 posts)
6. The Sessions DOJ is too stupid to offer a plea.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jun 2017

I think she should go for straight jury nullification, followed by throwing herself on the mercy of a sentencing recommendation.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. Slimey fucks. After they blew her cover now they attack O who is long gone.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:10 AM
Jun 2017

Greenwald is still the same a-hole and user he's always been.

Snowden, stranded in Russia while Greenwald parlayed his leaks to a media empire, knows and now Winner knows.

What's he gonna try to get out of exposing Winner?

Scoopster

(423 posts)
4. Yeah ummm.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

Greenwald didn't even say it. He retweeted someone who did. I may not like the guy for his actions but I won't play that game where we put words in his mouth, okay?

And this isn't even a slam. If someone steals docs from an agency, that person is a criminal and the DOJ will investigate them no matter who the president is.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. Yeah, but he agree with it, typical propaganda
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jun 2017

Try and change the subject from Trump to Obama

 

Goprox

(78 posts)
12. Your defense of Greenwald is based on weak points
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jun 2017

You suggested that every possible DOJ would have prosecuted Winner. But you failed to state whether all DOJ's would have engaged in a "war on leaks".

Greenwald obviously had a negative opinion on Obama's hypothetical reaction to this leak. You can pretend that Greenwald's view of Obama was neutral, but nobody in this thread had so far echoed your benign view of Obama - hater Glenn Greenwald.

Secondly, Greenwald has often reacted to Trump's screwups with an "Obama sucks" type of comment.

Thirdly, you pretend that Greenwald gets a pass because this was a retweet rather than an original tweet.

Nobody here would say that Greenwald retweeted that tweet because he disagreed with it.

 

Persisted

(290 posts)
15. GG has to keep the focus on Obama, off Snowden.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:45 AM
Jun 2017

There's a reason that the Sessions DOJ is pursuing this leaker, and not Snowden.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
20. Defense of Greenwald?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

I'm doing no such thing. I'm saying that if you're gonna accuse someone of something then they should have actually DONE IT. That's not a fucking pass. It's putting the responsibility for a statement where it belongs.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
22. Pointing out that someone retweeted something and commenting on that choice
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jun 2017

isn't putting words in their mouth. It's not like there's a random generator logarithm at work, here. Re-tweets are a choice. Why do you think that choice isn't worthy of commentary or criticism?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. Any DOJ would have done it.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

Of course.

I don't see how that's a slam.

Since this report originated under the Obama administration and Obama and his people elected to not make it public when they announced sanctions on Russia for doing what the report details obviously they felt it needed to be kept classified.

 

Goprox

(78 posts)
21. Greenwald disagrees with the charges
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jun 2017

But you pretend that Greenwald is simply telling us that Obama would have done the right thing.

ExciteBike66

(2,700 posts)
8. Why not opine on whether the Truman admin would have arrested her,
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jun 2017

it has the same amount of relevance as the imagined actions of the Obama admin...

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
9. Who cares? Greenwald is a piece of shit anyway
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jun 2017

as I have illustrated here on an almost daily basis

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
23. ? I saw multiple journalists retweet this and/or say something to a similar effect.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jun 2017

Any DOJ would have arrested Winner for this and I say that as someone who can't stand Glenn Greenwald.

The original tweeter, Brad Heath, seems to be an even tempered guy. He tweets about court cases and things concerning the misdeeds and general craziness of the Trump administration. I doubt this was a slam on Obama. If anything, this was a rebuff to the whole "Trump is finally going to war w/ leakers" hysteria that erupted as soon as the arrest was announced. This , as pointed out by Heath, is just business as usual for DoJs.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
26. How is it Russophilia to point out the the Obama administration like most others before him..
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

had a mixed record on leakers/whistleblowers when refer to current events for comparison? Greenwald is shit, but just because he "retweets" something doesn't automatically invalidate the original point of the tweet, no matter how Greenwald tries to portray it.

You're seeing red because something showed up on Greenwald's page.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
25. Greenwald got a damning leak on Russia interference and the leaker was caught in an hour
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jun 2017

What does that tell you about Glenn Greenwald?

RUSSIAN AGENT.

DeltaLitProf

(881 posts)
27. Never mind that . . .
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jun 2017

. . . someone at Greenwald's site, The Intercept, voluntarily provided the document to the government. Surely it's possible to confirm the truth of the document without showing it to the government.

Greenwald and crew behaved as rank amateurs with material their source entrusted to them. They bungled their responsibility to protect her. If I were a whistleblower, I'd NEVER EVER trust Greenwald with my information.

And given Greenwald's propensity to protect Putin, he'd have every motivation to out a source leaking classified info about Russia's misbehavior.

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