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I read a lot of justifiable discussion here about the greatness of Rachel and Lawrence, but I don't read similar things here about Chris, so I'm just wondering if he's either fallen out of favor here or never been in favor. Thoughts?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)(though vastly better than Van Susteren), but I think he's been getting better and more interesting lately. He does get good guests.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Sometimes, almost too smart for his audience.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)And here is a dark and shameful confession. I miss the way he used to begin his show by saying: "Tonight. We are ALL IN."
Yes it was meaningless and a bit silly. But I liked it.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)That graphic zooms by during the intro to his show. I'm sure MSNBC was hoping he'd gain a following who followed their lead and assumed the title of inners. But no dice.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)JimGinPA
(14,811 posts)hlthe2b
(102,379 posts)Just a stellar group led by the exceptional Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell.
Though Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd (the toad) occasionally find and reveal a "nut", they are usually truly "inside-the beltway" clueless.
And, Steve Kornachi---uggh... Don't get me started.
I won't discuss the obvious RW imports, though I do respect Nichole Wallace (as the exception).
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)His reports on the ground from Ferguson were very helpful.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Extent. So he falls into some dumb traps I think.
Sienna86
(2,150 posts)I'm a regular watcher.
skylucy
(3,743 posts)nailing anyone who spouts right wing lies.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Most of the time he invites conservative twits on and lets them hang themselves.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Chris Hayes doesn't merely pick an topic that interests him and blab, blab, blab in a condescending tone for an hour, repetitive all the way. He understands the issues and also understands why certain demographics vote the way they do. Rachel Maddow would be clueless for 100 years in that regard, if allowed. You could hand her any poll numbers from any state and she would read it out, with zero comprehension if it made any sense regarding the ideology of that state. In fact, that would be a hilarious exercise. I wish her producer were deviously creative. It's beyond scary that she is hyped as an intellectual.
For a young guy Hayes also has excellent command of history and makes some very astute points about political events and trends from long before he was born. Again, he is simply in a different league than Maddow there.
KT2000
(20,588 posts)I like the questions he asks his guests.
Saw him on Booknotes, C-Span, and he is very bright. His book is about colonies inside this country - as in Ferguson.
cally
(21,596 posts)His show seems a little less personality driven as Rachel's and Lawrence. I like him and find him very smart.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)GhostofFDR
(32 posts)...and weaknesses.
He's very good with investigative journalism and doing pieces on more complex subjects.
That's not going to stir a lot of people's enthusiasm, even though the information he presents is interesting, insightful, and uniquely his when he does his feature segments.
Tons of people don't read The Economist, but an average issue of their's is more informative than what a lot of magazines put out in a year.
Chris is pretty weak with guests. Not very assertive nor does he have a charismatic touch. He'd probably be better suited as following Rachel at the later timeslot. He has a more hard news with some commentary. He could easily do a show on PBS and fit like a glove.
There's a lot to like about Chris, and I wonder if hosting is his best fit. A show like 60 minutes, where he could do expose features would probably be a place where he could shine if he beefed up on his interviews. Of course, not every 60 minutes feature requires a bulldog interviewer.