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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen a sitting president is on air repeating, "I didn't say that." he's done. It's only a matter of
time.
When a sitting president is on air repeating, " I'll tell you later" he's done.
When a sitting president is on air repeating, "I'm totally innocent" he's done.
It's only a matter of time.
The same stupidity that allowed him to repeat that on air is the same stupidity that made him do really bad things that will eventually out him as a crminal.
Because HE NEVER THOUGHT HE'D BE PRESIDENT< SO HE RAN HIS BUSINESS AS THOUGHT HE'D EVER HAVE TO ANSWER FOR HIS DEEDS.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Skittles
(153,199 posts)not just that this buffoon is actually PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, but that over 60 MILLION people actually VOTED for that fucking buffoon......IT BOGGLES THE MIND
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)told. It just demonstrates yet once again, of course, how in history great historic nations were led down the path to failure and civilizations ended. I thought we were long past that, that people were more enlightened and astute, but here we are again, suckered in by a carnival barker. And then, also, so many sit home on their asses and don't even bother to vote!
Skittles
(153,199 posts)they voted for a buffoon over the most qualified candidate ever...even if they had genuine concerns they had another option, which was not voting
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)That one won't surprise me.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)Even his hard core supporters. They may not care that Trump is lying...
but pretty much everybody KNOWS Trump is lying.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And he believes Trump on everything and thinks it is all a liberal plot to destroy Trump and turn America into a Spanish speaking Islamic atheist communist dystopia.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)Their wiring is all mucked up and they seem to believe any old rightwing bullshit. Fear is their cocaine.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)gay-phobia. It's not fear at all. It's hatred, resentment, repression, infantilism, but it's not fear.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Does not always lead to being done.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Whereas, it doesn't seem like the Republicans who control Congress now will do so with respect to Trump.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Clinton should never have been impeached about a sexual encounter between two consenting adults period...but what is hard to understand about partisan politics? Trump has an "R" next to his name so they support him...and if we ever want to climb out of the minority, we need to vote for the person with a "D" next to his/her name.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am saying that we should not assume Trump is done just because of the statements he made yesterday.
The comparison with Bill Clinton is that the Republicans controlled Congress so they were able to initiate impeachment.
In terms of Trump, there will not be impeachment, because the Republicans are in control of Congress.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)for conviction in the Senate. However, Trump is a lawbreaker and a threat to our republic so we have to try. This was not true for Clinton.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)and few actually cared at all that he was having an affair: It was all straw man for "give all the money to the rich, and invade the middle east so we can all get richer."
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That quote didn't help matters.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Clinton said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."
He was not under oath when he said that to reporters, but even so, he as a lawyer used the dictionary denotation.
Later, the prosecution neglected to include in their accusations the one sexual act Monica became known for.
Finally, Bill was correct to wonder why the prosecution was using present verb tense in asking him about the past events. Hence, it "depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sexual relations, not sex. Kind of makes his statement even more of a lie, after what he later admitted to have done.
I worked my tail off to get Bill Clinton elected. Went door to door in Ohio (surprisingly high number of Ross Perot fans, at the time). I went around telling everyone that the Republicans were making things up, that there was a vast RW conspiracy to bring him down, etc. - so it was more than a little disappointing when the truth about the Lewinsky affair came to light.
That being said, I realize he wasn't under oath when he did that interview, and I recognize what you point out about the prosecution.
Trump's statements the other day also were not made under oath, for what that is worth.
I am glad that BC was not removed from office, and I think the whole thing was clearly partisan (and hypocritical). That's why I don't think Trump will suffer any consequence - since the R's control both houses of Congress.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)he didn't want his wife to find out...the fact is the GOP should never have gone there...now let's talk about Trump instead of ancient history that still enrages me...if you consider no Democratic president has been allow to govern by the right. That is a problem.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But the House voted to impeach because they had a Republican majority.
Trump will not be impeached, regardless of the statements he made yesterday, because the Republicans are once again the majority party in Congress.
It's all political.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)She rang me today after that stupid presser , and "He's done. It's over..." I marked the date on my calendar...
cwydro
(51,308 posts)gademocrat7
(10,672 posts)What a blight on our country.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)"he's done", or hoped it, I'd be rich.
Everything dt referenced in his appearance today had to do with money. I think his one-track mind will sink him.
VOX
(22,976 posts)What will it take for them to relax their grip on #45?
Pressure from lobbyists? That won't happen, they're walking in tall cotton right now.
Pressure from Kochs/Adelson? Hard to say. Maybe.
It's absolutely astonishing that Republicans are content to not act at this late date, in light of an attack (via hacking) on America by a hostile global power. They deepened the Red State-Blue State partisan rift to Marianas Trench proportions, sowing rage, confusion, and making Americans question the very reality of their own country.
But still, as of today, the GOP's "usual suspects" continue making excuses for their cosmic train-wreck of a "president."
FakeNoose
(32,777 posts)"He ran his businesses as though he'd never have to answer for anything."
You could also say - he ran his life the same way. This is someone who doesn't take responsibility and has no clue how he looks or sounds to other people.
Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)If you live your life as if you are going to be President and you're not, it won't matter anyway.
But if you live your life as if you'll never be President and you are, you will discover you have made a terrible error.
(with apologies to Blaise Pascal)
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)The russians have been helping elect demagogues all over the world for some time now.
They probably can't believe their luck.
A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from Greek ???????ό?, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from ?ῆ???, people, populace, the commons + ἀ???ό? leading, leader)[1] or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation.[1][2][3][4] Demagogues overturn established customs of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.
- Wikipedia