More Thoughts on Megyn Kelly, After Show #2 - "FAIL: The Sequel"

[calimary]

I gave it almost a week on Megyn Kelly's first NBC Sunday evening episode. Thought it was odd, last Monday, and then also Tuesday - when there was NO big news about her smashing debut on her big new mainstream non-cable network, the purported "golden girl of Pox Noise" - starring as the Well, looks like she's won the "Golden Turd" award again. Second week in a row, ho-hum reaction. Pox's Alpha Bimbo didn't cut it this past weekend either. I couldn't wait. I had to find out what her ratings were right away! Again, you're gonna hear nothing - because, again, on the heels of her second "Sunday Night with...", they've got nothing to brag about.

QUITE the opposite:

NBC ALREADY “FREAKING OUT” OVER “RATINGS DISASTER” MEGYN KELLY!
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/megyn-kelly-ratings-tank-new-nbc-show-sunday-night/

RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned that former Fox personality Megyn Kelly has been a “ratings disaster” — and she’s only been on the job a few weeks!
The new NBC personality’s interview with Erin Andrews for Sunday Night with Megyn Kelly was destroyed by 60 Minutes, which scored 7.66 million total viewers. Kelly got a paltry 4.35 million people to tune in to her program.
And the controversy surrounding her upcoming Father’s Day interview with Infowars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who has insisted that the Sandy Hook school massacre is a hoax, isn’t exactly helping matters.
“NBC is freaking out,” a source told Radar. “They didn’t pay her $15 million for this. They are now worried that her numbers will be bad when she joins the 9 am hour of Today.”

OUCH. Sounds like the big idea of showcasing that bastard Alex "Sandy-Hook-was-a-Hoax!" Jones - and schedule it for Father's Day (?!?!?!?!?!?) is not being received well. Gee, who could have predicted that? Gratifying to see this one:

J.P. MORGAN PULLS NBC NEWS ADS OVER MEGYN KELLY’S INTERVIEW WITH ALEX JONES (REPORT)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jp-morgan-chase-pulls-nbc-news-ads-megyn-kellys-interview-alex-jones-report-1012838

Wow, Megyn, you've sure made a hell of an entrance. Two strikes already. In your first two weeks.

We had quite a discussion in the original "FAIL" thread...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029188850

[melman]

1. She got ratings on Fox...because she was on Fox

Their audience watches for the message, doesnt matter who is giving it. Tucker Carlson's success is all the proof anyone could need.

[rpannier]

41. Pretty Much

My cat and a Kleenex box could score high ratings on faux spews

[AlexSFCA]

2. she is trying to turn nbc into fox

[PJMcK]

26. It's not really her

The power behind MSNBC is Andrew Lack. He's the one trying to make the outlet "Fox-Lite." As with Ms. Kelly, he brought Greta Van Sustern to NBC. Their both just talking heads. The real danger to MSNBC comes from its management. Incidentally, I believe Mr. Lack is close friends with Trump dating from their time at NBC during production of Trump's TV show.

[AlexSFCA]

27. I see it now

I've been saying that trump has a plan of controlling the media. This can be done through mergers, acquisitions, board of directors, financial interests that ultimately influence programming. We would start seeing change in programmig. They are testing waters. ABC and CBS next?

[greyl]

47. Santa Just Is White': Here Are Megyn Kelly's 7 Most Ridiculous Moments on Fox News

Longtime Fox News star Megyn Kelly has made the switch to a purportedly more respectable news outlet, but that still doesn’t erase any of the ridiculous and inflammatory statements she made during her time on the right-wing cable news network.

Below, we’ll recap Megyn Kelly’s seven most absurd moments from the past several years.

1. Megyn Kelly rails against the idea that “historical figure” Santa Claus could be black.

Responding to a Slate column that suggested making Santa Claus black could make people of color feel more included, Kelly said that people needed to stop trying to take the whiteness away from “historical figures” like Santa and Jesus.

More: http://www.alternet.org/media/megyn-kelly-ridiculous-moments

[Me.]

54. The Real Issue Is His Bromance W/ Brian Williams

He's been trying to resuscitate BW's career and he thinks a more centrist network would suit BW's talent better. He tried to get rid of Larry so he could give the spot to BW. A lot of people have been pushed out in service of his goal and he may come to pay a price because he has angered viewers and his picks are a disaster. So far Greta has been a fail, though Mr. Lack says he has patience. I wonder how much patience NBC will put up with.

[Scarsdale]

3. Hey, Meaghan

here is an idea, interview the three repulsive tRump "kids". Let frozen faced Ivanka tell about the ideas SHE has for the country. Beavis and Butthead tRump can tell how their father is being mistreated. You know how well received THAT would be.

[madaboutharry]

4. NBC could pay her contract and cancel it.

That may be the best option.

BTW, calling her a bimbo was gratuitous. She may be many things but I don't think being a bimbo is one of them. (And the word bimbo is rather sexist.)

[TexasProgresive]

8. I have never understood the use of bimbo for women.

Bimbo is a masculine word. In Italian it means a male baby or boy. The world for a female baby or girl is bimba. It is kind of like the use of skank as a feminine insult. The word comes for ska (music) and was a dance. I guess the word has a "nasty" sound to our ears and so we, in our infinite foolishness, have laid that on women. SAD

[csziggy]

17. The history of the word is interesting

History

The word bimbo derives itself from the Italian bimbo,[2] a masculine-gender term that means &quot male) baby" or "young (male) child" (the feminine form of the Italian word is bimba). Use of this term began in the United States as early as 1919, and was a slang word used to describe an unintelligent[3] or brutish[4] man.

It was not until the 1920s that the term bimbo first began to be associated with females. In 1920, Frank Crumit,[5] Billy Jones, and Aileen Stanley all recorded versions of "My Little Bimbo Down on the Bamboo Isle", with words by Grant Clarke and music by Walter Donaldson, in which the term "bimbo" is used to describe an island girl of questionable virtue. The 1929 silent film Desert Nights describes a wealthy female crook as a bimbo and in The Broadway Melody, an angry Bessie Love calls a chorus girl a bimbo. The first use of its female meaning cited in the Oxford English Dictionary is dated 1929, from the scholarly journal American Speech, where the definition was given simply as "a woman".

In the 1940s, bimbo was still being used to refer to both men and women, as in, for example the comic novel Full Moon by P.G. Wodehouse who wrote of “bimbos who went about the place making passes at innocent girls after discarding their wives like old tubes of toothpaste”.[6]

The term died out again for much of the 20th century until it became popular again in the 1980s, with political sex scandals.[7] As bimbo began to be used increasingly for females, exclusively male variations of the word began to surface, like mimbo and himbo, a backformation of bimbo, which refers to an unintelligent but attractive man.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimbo#History
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[TexasProgresive]

23. I guess the years spent as a poor student of Romance languages

the use of an obvious masculine word to describe a woman is immediately offensive to me. Adding fuel to that fire is the use of the word to insult women. I have no problem with slang but it needs to have some tether to the original meaning of the word, otherwise it is just worthless or an attempt at speaking in code. i.e. "throwing shade"

[csziggy]

35. I consider the word to be only a tiny step up from the "b***h" or "c" words

All three demean women, either from the point of their dispositions, a body, part or derivation from a demeaning use that was likely tied to ethnic origins.

[TexasProgresive]

36. Years ago I figured out that many insults whether to male or female

in American English are really directed at women: son of a b***h, bastard, mother f***er and there are others as well. I personally take the view that using words to insult others somehow create fallout on unintended targets. So it's best to insult with facts. As to what started this whole discussion, Megan Kelly, she is like most "news" commentators has a point of view that is far removed from good journalism. Last night was a rerun of "Supergirl." Her article on Lena Luther by the editor for being colored by her opinions. Who, what, why, how and where are the things that should be in a good article. The editor said something like the readers will then make their own thoughts as to what it means.

I have little patience with my fellow DUers who alternately laud and lambaste various video talking heads from Joe Scarborough to Rachel Maddow. As I refuse to have cable/satellite in my home I know very little about either of them. From what I read here I think Ms. Maddow might be a true journalist.

[SCVDem]

21. Bimbo is a brand of bread.

From Wiki: Bimbo Bakeries USA is the American corporate arm of Mexico's Grupo Bimbo. It is the largest bakery company in the United States.

[TexasProgresive]

22. What does that have to do with bimbo as an insult to women?

From Wiki:
"The name Bimbo was first coined in 1945. The main hypothesis is that it resulted from the combination of Bingo and the Disney film Bambi. Later, the founders discovered that children in Italian are called bimbo, while in Hungarian, the word means bud and the phoneme used in China to name it sounds very similar to bread."

[procon]

28. Lots of stores here in So Cal sell Bimbo Bread.

From a marketing standpoint the name doesn't transfer well from a popular Mexican product to American sales. I've tried it, but it's very poor quality with a coarse, porous texture typical of many cheap breads. That said, it is good for toast as all the holes suck up lots of butter.

[joshdawg]

14. Maybe not bimbo,

but certainly a RWNJ.

[calimary]

33. Well, I probably shouldn't use that word - but when discussing the average on-camera female

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on Pox Noise, it's hard not to.

The schtick over there is gravely offensive to me, as a retired broadcast journalist myself. I remember when the only roles for women on the air in the news biz were as the "girl reporter" who always got the fluff stories and was never taken seriously, or assigned to report the hard breaking news, or, heaven forbid - anchor the news. In radio it didn't matter as much, but on television, only the pretty got invited to the prom. I've often posted here about how my husband and I have a standard one-liner for the Pox Noise females, many of whom come off as full-on dingbats: "...but she photographs well."

The very fact that these women are paraded around on that network, appearing on camera pretty much half-dressed, gratuitously so. Short tight skirts, LOTS of leg, fancy spike heeled stilettos, lots of bare skin in the neck and shoulder department, those with long hair with that come-hither hairstyle that sweeps around back and then over one shoulder, exposing the other side of the neck and the prerequisite skimpy, low-cut top. It's a freakin' INSULT to those of us women who had to fight for those early jobs because we wanted to "do the news" instead of "doing" the boss. My peers and I NEVER dressed that way for work, because we cared more about The Work, and not who we flirted with or slept with in order to get the job. I remember going to a radio convention where, as you went up to the hospitality suites to talk shop and scout out the next job prospects, the women on hand were dressed and behaved as though there was another kind of "work" they were more interested in. At one of these, my name tag had my name and station printed on it. The women I saw parading around in those rooms, clearly dressed for some other destination than an actual professional news room, were prancing around with hand-written name-tags with names like Honey B. Mine. Made me ill. It felt like MY job and MY chosen profession and MY very presence there was being made a mockery of. It felt like a reminder from the male executives that - here's how you can REALLY get ahead, girlie.

I have found it absolutely INFURIATING to see the whole clear-lucite-desk arrangement take hold on the news sets. The camera angles that used to close in on the anchors from the level of the seat of the chair, BELOW the desk top, so you're really zooming in on her ass and her legs. The Pox Noise shows where you can clearly see the female co-host's legs, crossed alluringly, protruding from a short, tight skirt. That show where there are four women on sofas on the set, with one dude in the middle, and these women are literally lounging on the sofas with their long bare legs crossed like pairs of salad tongs, ending in fancy look-at-me spike-heeled stilettos, I mean - SHIT, WHAT MESSAGE are they trying to project? The answer: the image with which that horny old schmuck Roger Ailes was rabidly obsessed, appealing to the sexual fantasies of the fellow horny old men he knew made up their target demographic. That's all those women are there for, in their heavy cocktail-party makeup and late-date hair styles and tight skimpy clothes and - well, what comes to YOUR mind?

It makes me angry because what they do on there, and the way they dress and sit and accessorize themselves and tart themselves up slaps the rest of us women in the face - especially those of us trying hard to cover the news seriously and with credibility. The only thing we have, as reporters, is our credibility. That's ALL WE HAVE. And if all women are regarded as - are playthings and bedroom buddies - then the rest of us who are there to do an honest job and be credible and trustworthy and legitimate as anchors and reporters and writers and producers and interviewers are cheapened and disrespected, and rendered NOT legitimate and certainly NOT credible. Just another plaything.

And any woman who comes out of Pox Noise has that "mark of floozy" on her. I'm sorry, but that's my view. There was a fair amount of resentment, as I recall, when local ABC anchor Tawny Little went almost literally from the Miss America stage (where she'd won the title that came with the obligatory bathing suit competition) to the anchor chair. Because when her year's reign was completed she sat with her team of advisors and talent reps and when asked what she wanted to do next, she thought she might like to do the news. So BOOM, there she is, crown only recently removed from her head, plopped into the anchor chair, leap-frogging over a number of solid women reporters and fill-in anchors who deserved that plum job and had actually earned it. "Toiling in the back of the vineyard" - as Catherine Cryer once put it, in an appearance at a TV critics junket I covered (as an entertainment reporter) when she was plucked out of a previous job as a judge, with no news experience, to take an anchor gig on CNN. I remember that panel where Cryer was introduced to the critics, and she readily admitted feeling guilty about that - being allowed to bypass the women who'd already been there, paying their dues, and parachuting into one of those dream jobs those other women would never get, simply because they didn't photograph as well.

I'm still of the opinion that being a model, being some beauty pageant winner, being that easy-on-the-eyes on the surface, did NOT and does NOT automatically qualify someone to plop into the anchor chair. That was, and still is, a job you had to earn, working your way up, and making your bones as a field reporter, proving yourself in the trenches, or bringing a solid journalism background into the newsroom with you, NOT just your makeup case. To me, that's the bimbo thing. Pisses me off. STILL pisses me off. It's insulting, to me and to all my "sisters" who've worked super hard to get where they are, and put up with shit, and paid their dues, and maybe their looks weren't cover-girl perfect. I resent the hell out of it. Roger Ailes made a media monster out of that shitty sexist-pig world view, objectifying and cheapening women, hiring them for how they looked (and yes they were told to turn around so he could ogle their backsides), disrespecting and discounting the whole idea of knowledge, actual news experience, and credibility, for the sake of positioning them as playthings.

"...but she photographs well."

[joshdawg]

48. Excellent post!

And you are 100% spot on in your observations.

[calimary]

51. Thank you.

And here's how bad it was at that particular convention I described above (the "Honey-B.-Mine convention&quot .

Even I got hit on by some jerk PD from a smaller market in one of those hospitality suites, looking to move up to a major market like L.A. Even me, in my blazer, high-necked blouse, long trousers, low-heeled pumps, solid news credentials that had earned me several Golden Mike Awards, and a face for radio.

[pandr32]

52. Bravo!

Well said!

[calimary]

53. Thanks.

It's just been the biggest big-fat thorn in my paw for the longest time.

[HopeAgain]

5. Is there any organized boycott?

I'm not going to support any advertiser who would give Alex Jones the time of day. Is there a list somewhere?

[calimary]

29. There's a hashtag on Twitter now - #BoycottMegynKelly

Also @ShameOnNBC and #ShameOnMegynKelly

Her Twitter page is @megynkelly

Send an email if you feel so inclined! One of the replies to Megyn Kelly's rationale for the Alex Jones segment was this:

studio 297‏ @xtine297
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Replying to @khaviley
NBC [phone] or online http://www.nbc.com/contact-us let them know, karen. please pass it on! #shameonNBC #BoycottMegynKelly

The comments on these stories are brutal. We here are not the only ones who find her disgraceful and unwatchable.

[calimary]

6. The comments are OUCH-worthy.

Even the Breitbart story has 'em.

NBC “FREAKING OUT” OVER “RATINGS DISASTER” MEGYN KELLY: REPORT
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/06/12/nbc-freaking-out-over-ratings-disaster-megyn-kelly/

Seems in that realm, and elsewhere in the comments all around - many call her MEgan, or ME-again.

Hmmm. How 'bout that.

The Breitbart story has some interesting tidbits:

NBC News reportedly had trouble locking down an executive producer for Kelly’s daily one-hour show for months. According to one television insider, though “NBC and Megyn Kelly would like you to believe” her show did not have an executive producer because “there are just so many great people lining up for the job,” it was “quite the opposite.”

According to the insider’s source, Kelly and NBC had “approached some big names and they have all said no.”

Kelly reportedly wanted Bill Geddie, Barbara Walters’ longtime producer, to run her morning show. But he reportedly turned her down in addition to other top names because “no one wants to take the gig and most of the blame if Kelly flops at NBC.”

NBC News Chairman Andrew Lack has reportedly been busy lowering expectations for Kelly to the network’s affiliates.


NBC is described as "in desperation mode" over this. OUCH!

Who knows? Maybe this experiment will teach them not to try to shove Pox Noise types down the throats of those of us who don't watch Pox. Maybe...

[athena]

31. NBC deserves to be "in desperation mode".

They *deserve* low ratings. In fact, they deserve to go out of business. That's what you get when you're a longtime left-leaning station and you start bullying your liberal stars and courting Faux-"News" personalities.

[JDC]

7. Alex Jones on Father's Day? Didn't he just lose custody?

Not to mention his disgusting Sandy Hook stuff. Sounds like NBC producers are the problem actually.

[Volaris]

15. He did lose his custody fight. He claimed in court that being crazy was just an act for the rubes

AND THE JUDGE DIDNT BELIEVE HIM.

[TNNurse]

9. Never going to watch her, or Greta on MSNBC

they have Fox cooties and that is untreatable. It is certainly not covered by the AHCA.

[mdbl]

13. ROFL

After i stopped laughing, I agree.

[riversedge]

10. keep up with the resisting

[-Steph-]

11. It's absolutely disgusting and abhorrent that she would give Alex Jones a national platform.

The amount of pain and suffering that monster has caused for the families of the Sandy Hook victims can't even be measured. They've not only lost their precious loved ones to a violent crime, but still to this very day they are harassed and even receive death threats because of the sick conspiracies Alex Jones has spread about the shooting. I could not even imagine what they've gone through.

I will not be watching her Alex Jones interview, or any show thereafter that has her in it.

[mdbl]

12. She must think she's still on Fox

Alex Jones would have been HUUUUGE hit on that worthless network.

[lark]

16. Hire a rw disaster,

reap a lw boycott. Haven't watched her show and won't watch it. Just because drumpf hates her doesn't mean she's actually worthwhile and that she's not rw. Highlighting Stone and his crazy Sandy Hook weirdness shows that she's still the Faux person.

[tanyev]

18. I don't know what audience they thought she would bring to the table.

We're not interested in watching Fox Lite. People who are still watching Fox News probably regard her as a liberal traitor.

[wishstar]

19. Who decided she would give 2 of worlds' most horrible people primetime platforms

Who's next on the roster of guests?

[erpowers]

20. Just Stupid

You do not have to dislike Megyn Kelly in order to think interviewing Alex Jones was a stupid move. What is really compelling about Alex Jones? We are not even sure Alex Jones actually believes in the things he says. I believe it was his lawyer who, during Jones' custody battle, claimed Jones did not believe in the things he said on his show.

There were so many other interviews she could have conducted and so many other topics she could have discussed. Even if she wanted to slant the discussion to Donald Trump. She could have discussed the idea that some coal mines are reopening and some new mines are opening. She would not have even had to point out that the new coal jobs are for steel coal; not energy coal and that steel coal is not going to bring back the coal industry. She could have attempted to discuss the numerous Executives Orders that Trump has signed.

If she wanted to do a fathers day special she could have interviewed political dad like President Obama and Paul Ryan and ask them about their views on parenting and their parenting styles. She could have even interviewed President Trump and asked him about his views on parenting and his parenting style.

So, are Al Rocker and Tamron Hall having a blast with all these developments? Are they at home rolling on the floor laughing their butts off? This thing seems to be turning out badly for NBC. NBC could end up with egg all over its face. Apparently, Rocker's and Hall's third hour of the Today Show, which was cancelled to make way for a Megyn Kelly show, was highly rated. Now it is looking like she will not be able to deliver the ratings that came from the third hour of the Today Show.

[PatSeg]

24. What on earth were they thinking?

Someone like Megyn Kelly cannot carry a Sunday night time slot. Maybe a weekday morning or afternoon on MSNBC at best, if that. She was a star at Fox, but in the real world, she is just another pretty blonde with little substance.

[WillowTree]

25. Not sure I understand why people care so much about Megyn Kelly.

[procon]

30. I care because a major TV network is promoting rightwing propagandists

like Kelly and that Van Susteren person. Adding people like them to the primetime schedule means there is less opposing views and no one with a liberal view is hired. That drags the casual news consumers off in the direction these Republican bent personalities prefer.

[Johonny]

32. The thing is...NBC could have her interview people that are not insane

instead they've given Putin and now Alex Jones a platform to speak to a broader audience. Who wants to watch and listen to horrible people? Particularly when it's clear Megyn doesn't have the chops to really stick it to these people. Megyn isn't exactly channeling David Frost in these things. If you interview unlikable, horrible people, you better be up to the task. If you're not, then you better be on FOX where the audience is nothing but doormats.

[calimary]

37. Leads me to suspect that either she's calling the shots, and up till now she's only known the

Pox Noise universe and what appeals in that shrieking bubble world, OR her producers and bosses and other folks behind the scenes really are trying to appeal to "trumpworld" by bringing in/on more CON crap, Breitbart-approved "news", familiar faces from the "Fox Family" in hopes of luring those eyeballs over to a different network, and anything involving sex, guns, tax cuts, and salaciousness.

[Johonny]

38. I think NBC or her thinks big names brings in big ratings

forgetting the whole part where the interviewer has to be good at getting people to discuss things.

[calimary]

39. There was a REALLY astute comment from DUer procon on the other thread along these lines.

That post really nailed the wrong thinking of the NBC brass in general and NBC News Chairman Andrew Lack in particular. Nailed it to the freakin' floor: the misguided assumption that such audience loyalty is transferable.

"NBC and MSNBC opted to hire all those Fox News castoffs and Republican darlings, expecting to benefit from their media popularity and reap a similar ratings bonanza. What they didn't take into consideration was obvious to most of their progressive audience, these new hires were only popular at Fox because of their curated rightwing audience. Take those TV personalities out of Fox and their fabricated celebrity status quickly faded and we saw them as they them as they really were, mediocre Republican bent flacks who are not good at their jobs because that was never a requirement to work at Fox."

NAILED it. Really lazy and simplistic presumption here. She's famous, hard-charging, blonde, and photographs well. They LOVE her on Pox Noise. They're gonna LOVE her on NBC too. WRONG! Shows you how little Andy Lack understands the NBC News audience. And he sure as hell doesn't understand the MSNBC viewers, either. Trying to shove more CONS into full-time weekday hosting jobs thinking that'll somehow appeal to ardent liberal and progressive viewers just makes NO sense. NONE. Greta Van Susteren - Yuck! Nicolle Wallace - I'm sorry, no! Rumors they're in talks with Gretchen Carlson - WTF??? And then more rumors that Hugh Hewitt has been approached about a weekend gig - OhForCryingOUTLOUD!!!

Then, of course, there's our friend Megyn. Gets a Sunday night showcase AND an upcoming hour of the "Today" show morning block ALSO? Is this more of some "teacher's-pet-gets-two-shows" thing - which we're now seeing with the double exposure of Ali Velchi and Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC? Adding insult to injury. They're THAT hard-up for talent? Especially with Joy Reid still languishing on the weekends and being thrown crumbs when one of the full-timers is on vacation? Some of the aforementioned don't even deserve a single Monday-through-Friday show to begin with, at least in my opinion.

Or maybe the executive suites are leaning on Andy Lack because they're pro-trump and they want more GOPers on, in hopes of flattering his majesty and gaining some kind of favor from "On High"?

The thinking here is just ALL WRONG. Either way. All I know, as a (so far) still loyal viewer especially of MSNBC, is that I feel mighty disrespected. Andy Lack is repaying my loyalty by force-feeding me Pox Noise rejects every time an opening comes up in the lineup. That's no way to keep my loyalty. I've already got Greta on "must-skip TV" mode. And it's not just Pox Noise alums, either. I already go to CNN when Joe Scarborough is on in the early morning hours. I already note when Andrea Mitchell's hour starts, so I can avoid that - it's a great time to return phone calls, walk the dog, run the vacuum, hunker down on projects, etc. If I really wanted to watch or hear from CONs and other assorted GOPers, I'd go where they are, and watch Pox Noise. But I continue to have no interest in doing that. They don't speak for me or to me, any more than Mitch McConnell would represent my views if I lived in Kentucky.

[rurallib]

34. makes me wonder when David Dukes will be on?

[Cha]

40. Good to hear.. Mahalo, calimary! And, what

of that other faux refugee, Andrew Lack hired.. Greta?

I can't imagine she's been doing very well, either.

[sheshe2]

42. K&R

I can't rec twice, yet am going to kick again when I am done with this post for a friend who cannot.

Thanks calimary!

[sheshe2]

43. Kicking for a friend!

[calimary]

44. Awww - thanks, sweetie!

[sheshe2]

45. They could not be here, yet loved your thread.

Hugs~

[Scurrilous]

46. K&R

[cwydro]

49. Bimbo?

[calimary]

50. Yes. My full response is farther up-thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9196514

[calimary]

55. Btw - now there apparently are more sponsors bailing at least from this Sunday's show.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/13/media/megyn-kelly-alex-jones-advertisers/index.html

Multiple advertisers have told NBC that they don't want to be anywhere near Megyn Kelly's forthcoming interview with controversial media personality Alex Jones.
NBC expects the advertiser flight to be temporary, however.
"This comes with the territory," NBC News chairman Andy Lack told CNN Tuesday. "We kind of know, when we're doing controversial stories, that's going to happen. It doesn't stop us from doing controversial stories."
NBC declined to say how many advertisers have distanced themselves from Kelly's new show "Sunday Night." Most of them are on the local level, meaning companies that bought ads on NBC-owned stations.
NBC expects there will be a full slate of nationally televised ads on Kelly's show this Sunday, despite the controversy.
As for the companies that have withdrawn, "they'll all be coming back, they've been clear about that," Lack said Tuesday.


All we know, by name, is that J.P. Morgan Chase has pulled out. Seems as though nobody else wants to own up.

They'll come back, at least for awhile. Unless the ratings continue on the same trend we've seen in the first two weeks. Going from underwhelming on debut night to "Oy..." on the following Sunday. How much of a further "OUCH!" will it be for show #3? She went from a 6.1 to a 3.6 in the first two shows.

[calimary]

56. One more update I found that reminded me of a favorite old spoonerism: "The thick plottens!"

Looks like Alex Jones is NOT happy with the way his poor widdle self has been so badly mishandled!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/16/1672393/-As-NBC-s-reputation-sinks-Alex-Jones-vows-to-release-his-own-recordings-of-Megyn-Kelly

(snip)

And now for one final chapter in this shit show saga, Alex Jones has informed his audience that he recorded all of his interactions with Megyn Kelly, including the 12+ hours they spent together filming the interview. I’m not going to link to his recordings or his commentary, but the Hollywood Reporter has a few of the details, including audio of Kelly promising Jones that it’s a profile of him, not a “gotcha” interview.

In the audio, Kelly is heard saying, "This is not going to be a contentious, sort of 'gotcha' exchange." Then in a preview of the televised footage, Jones is seen talking with Kelly about the 2012 Newtown, Conn., shooting, with Jones calling Kelly "an anti-gunner."

The host also called out the "mainstream media," including The Hollywood Reporter, for its recent coverage of his sit-down with Kelly. Jones claimed that his words were taken out of context and heavily edited in promo clips for the interview. "I got it all on tape, sweetheart," he said during Thursday's Infowars show. "I did it to protect myself so I can show what she really did."

"What are they going to do, when I've got the tapes of what really happened?" Jones added, saying that Kelly acted like she was "obsessed with him." "It was worse than in college in a topless bar when women try to get you to pay for a dance."