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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPledge Time. If Robert Mueller gets fired drop everything. IMMEDIATELY hit the streets
Do not pass GO, do not collect $200 from George Soros, do not hesitate.
Pass the word. This can be the General Strike that will actually shut down the country - all of it.. We owe this to multiple past generations of Americans who preserved a working Democracy for us to have and pass on to future generations of Americans.
Into the streets. Everywhere. Instantaneously. Simultaneously: MASS RESISTANCE. Spread the word.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Posted this on June 6th. Thank you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029165522
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)It is active, I don't know how complete it is but it's a start. Of course the whole interwoven web of Indivisible chapters are a good way to track protests in your own area.
Here is Moore's: https://www.resistancecalendar.org/
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They have been holding a number of protests in St. Petersburg, FL. I wan't to attend but can never find information. I'm ready.
Truly, thank you.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)~ 1968 Paris Anarchists
murielm99
(30,733 posts)it's ninety degrees out here. And Soros has not paid me yet for the last time.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Nice to see someone still has a sense of humor
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Humor makes resistance easier.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Seriously. We have to behave like citizens in a country that has experienced a coup.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)The reaction should be both immediate and everywhere. Like when people immediately rushed over to airports when Trump announced his first Muslim ban. Except a thousand fold. Our resistance drove the narrative. Should we fail to react powerfully enough if Mueller gets shut down that too will drive the narrative. Nothing screams urgency louder than an immediate massive eruption of street protests.
mopinko
(70,078 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)Oneironaut
(5,492 posts)You would need millions upon millions of people to strike. It's not going to happen on such short notice. Mass protests would be a more obtainable goal in the short term.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)General Strikes are called for on a date specific. And in our current alienated political mass culture they tend not to work. But millions upon millions of Americans can leave their homes and go out onto the streets or to the nearest civic square if word of Mueller being fired is announced. And for some communities that can defacto have he same effect as a general strike in disrupting and shutting down normal activities in those localities. It depends on the extent of the response in every community. The results would speak for themselves without need of any predetermined benchmarks - I agree that specifically calling for a "general strike" offers no advantage.
tableturner
(1,681 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)I think that's exactly what it is. And this thread and others like it are, in real time, part of the "trial" that "balloon" is undergoing. This is politics in the era of social media.
Initech
(100,063 posts)I hear Bill Gates offers better hourly rates and insurance, plus paid vacation!
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)...but not to the likes of us, alas
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We missed the opportunity to keep Trump out of office because some that claim they believe as we do were too pure to vote for our candidate.
Trump and the right will welcome street protests. Then the cops can set on protesters, beating them and giving them records. How does that help progress?
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Except to perhaps discuss in regards to future contingencies. Do you believe we could have kept Trump from taking office by taking to the streets without getting beat up by cops etc.? I think we would have greater wide spread support for taking to the streets in this instance than we would have had immediately after the election
No, Trump and the right will not welcome street protests over Trump firing Mueller. Trump will only fire him as a last resort to try to save his skin, not to instigate protests to then crack down on. I remember the 60's when Watts and Detroit burned. I don't want to relive those days but I will say this. Even Republicans understood why so many people were fighting mad back then. It absolutely freaked them out and a lot of people started talking about ways to defuse the anger who previously didn't give a flying f**k about poor people or blacks. They were literally fearful of widescale destabilization that could unravel a society that treated them so kindly.
No hint of violence is needed from our side, there should be none. A few on the far right will welcome some kind of melt down but the people who hold power and who profit from this society will not. Trump is at 36 favorable/ 60 unfavorable now. If he fires Mueller those approval numbers will drop lower. The Republicans would be watching to see if Trump could ride out the storm he would cause by firing Mueller. If they sense he can they will close ranks around him. If they sense he can't they will throw him overboard. We will make the difference in that determination.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sorry, I am not on the protest instead of vote wisely and strategically bandwagon. The time to stop Trump was Election Day 2016, anyone that thinks differently is fooling themselves.
Street protests didn't stop Bush from fucking up the country, neither will they stop Trump. Voting wisely stops republicans by keeping them out of power.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)A general strike, like they have in Europe that shuts everything down.
We must do this if Muller gets fired. Spread this to all social media!!
I know that everyone can't participate since we shouldn't want anyone to lose their job. But, those who can, should.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)If it happens a lot of people need to be ready to respond quickly. People seeing a lot of other people on the street will help it mushroom - but only if a large first wave mobilizes promptly.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)they will try to make it fly with suppression of free speech
and suppression of voting rights in 2018
We would have no society left if we accepted Mueller being fired
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)And it can/should be totally non-violent in shockingly massive numbers. We can do this. Enough people, even centrists, feel the way we do about shutting down an investigation to protect someone who would then appear obviously guilty. Our numbers will feed on themselves as neighbors see neighbors drop what they are doing to gather in town squares.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)I pledge
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)no other reason is necessary for this person. We tell him one thing, he does the opposite...
Perhaps if we tell....him to ....."now Mr. President, you need to watch what you eat.".....who knows what he will eat...................??????
He almost always does the opposite of what we tell him. He acts out of hate for those who suggest better ideas than his. cause....his ideas are always the best..."he thinks"...and that is very dangerous....
leanforward
(1,076 posts)That would be take the train, transfer to Metro, get off at Union Station and start walking the streets. Similar to January 21.
There is too much information in the MSM and it cited sources, that russia has hacked into our election systems.
What gets me is the complete lack of concern the GOP Senators and Representatives have shown. Their lack of action/concern causes me to jump to ideas like: Impeach, treason, traitor, and renaming GOP to kGOP.
You don't play kiss . . s with the Russians. But, hey, we won with their nefarious activities. That's okay.
The kGOP won (by their silence), and pRezident dRumpf won and won't reveal how significant the russian investment is in his and family business enterprises.
We have names on walls round the country as a result of russian influence. Honor the ultimate sacrifice, the GOP does not want this win with the help of the russians.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)I've had about a dozen shares so far off my similar to this Facebook post. Use your own words. It's because I find it so important that Mueller's probe be allowed to finish a thorough investigation that I'm doing this. If those around Trump become genuinely fearful of the magnitude of the reaction to Mueller being fired - maybe he won't be.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)I'm not a big Facebook user but this is striking a chord.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)We must be prepared to take to the streets - in a completely non violent manner. The latter is part of what we need to get a jump on - channeling anger into peaceful protest should this moment arise.