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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:34 PM Jun 2017

Pledge Time. If Robert Mueller gets fired drop everything. IMMEDIATELY hit the streets

Do not pass GO, do not collect $200 from George Soros, do not hesitate.

Pass the word. This can be the General Strike that will actually shut down the country - all of it.. We owe this to multiple past generations of Americans who preserved a working Democracy for us to have and pass on to future generations of Americans.

Into the streets. Everywhere. Instantaneously. Simultaneously: MASS RESISTANCE. Spread the word.

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Pledge Time. If Robert Mueller gets fired drop everything. IMMEDIATELY hit the streets (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 OP
Count me in redstateblues Jun 2017 #1
I need some help. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #2
Michael Moore started one Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #5
Thank you very much. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #7
"Be Realistic! Demand the Impossible!" Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #40
Oh man, murielm99 Jun 2017 #3
To think I used to expect the Russians to pay me. They never did either n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #6
lol burnbaby Jun 2017 #17
+1. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #19
If that happens, I think we all need to head to DC. Tatiana Jun 2017 #4
That too. But it takes some time and money for some of us to get there Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #8
bring your pots and pans. mopinko Jun 2017 #9
Yup. That's exactly what I was thinking. Glad you mentioned it. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #10
But remember . . . tiki torches not allowed. LOL. Vinca Jun 2017 #11
Nah, we have smart phones instead! n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #12
I'm in. I'll swear it. n/t Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #13
I don't agree with a general strike. They're almost impossible to pull off effectively. Oneironaut Jun 2017 #14
I don't call it a General Strike. Rather an instant mobilization Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #15
Yes.....K and R! tableturner Jun 2017 #16
Commetators are calling talk of Trump possibly firing Mueller a "trial balloon" Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #18
George Soros is only paying us $200? I feel cheated! Initech Jun 2017 #20
I'll have to look into that. Unfortunately Putin's offering the big bucks... Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #22
I'm in...n/t bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #21
I'm in. TeamPooka Jun 2017 #23
Making my sign soon Equinox Moon Jun 2017 #24
My view is the time to hit the streets was on Nov 8, 2016. Blue_true Jun 2017 #25
Due to the laws of time that is moot now Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #33
I prefer to vote wisely over protesting in the streets. Blue_true Jun 2017 #36
This is an excellent idea. SpankMe Jun 2017 #26
By all means spread it, use your own words, use your own networks... Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #37
If Mueller is fired bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #27
If they can get away with that there's no stopping them. Reaction must be swift and overwhelming Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #35
I'm there, and what's more, my drinking buddy, Agent Mike is in too! Brother Buzz Jun 2017 #28
I'm making a sign for my car and one to be hand-held Equinox Moon Jun 2017 #29
Yes I will take to the street if this occurs kimbutgar Jun 2017 #30
Trump will fire Mueller...Why? Becuse we, (Democrats) tell him not to...and, Stuart G Jun 2017 #31
Great idea leanforward Jun 2017 #32
I swear!! nikibatts Jun 2017 #34
I hope you are also passing on this contingency call to action. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #38
I have 42 Facebook shares on this so far already, and I have less than 300 Facebook "friends" Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #39
A kick because these times warrant it Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #41

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
5. Michael Moore started one
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jun 2017

It is active, I don't know how complete it is but it's a start. Of course the whole interwoven web of Indivisible chapters are a good way to track protests in your own area.

Here is Moore's: https://www.resistancecalendar.org/

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Thank you very much.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jun 2017

They have been holding a number of protests in St. Petersburg, FL. I wan't to attend but can never find information. I'm ready.

Truly, thank you.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
4. If that happens, I think we all need to head to DC.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jun 2017

Seriously. We have to behave like citizens in a country that has experienced a coup.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
8. That too. But it takes some time and money for some of us to get there
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jun 2017

The reaction should be both immediate and everywhere. Like when people immediately rushed over to airports when Trump announced his first Muslim ban. Except a thousand fold. Our resistance drove the narrative. Should we fail to react powerfully enough if Mueller gets shut down that too will drive the narrative. Nothing screams urgency louder than an immediate massive eruption of street protests.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
14. I don't agree with a general strike. They're almost impossible to pull off effectively.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jun 2017

You would need millions upon millions of people to strike. It's not going to happen on such short notice. Mass protests would be a more obtainable goal in the short term.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
15. I don't call it a General Strike. Rather an instant mobilization
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 01:47 PM
Jun 2017

General Strikes are called for on a date specific. And in our current alienated political mass culture they tend not to work. But millions upon millions of Americans can leave their homes and go out onto the streets or to the nearest civic square if word of Mueller being fired is announced. And for some communities that can defacto have he same effect as a general strike in disrupting and shutting down normal activities in those localities. It depends on the extent of the response in every community. The results would speak for themselves without need of any predetermined benchmarks - I agree that specifically calling for a "general strike" offers no advantage.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
18. Commetators are calling talk of Trump possibly firing Mueller a "trial balloon"
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 02:38 PM
Jun 2017

I think that's exactly what it is. And this thread and others like it are, in real time, part of the "trial" that "balloon" is undergoing. This is politics in the era of social media.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
20. George Soros is only paying us $200? I feel cheated!
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jun 2017

I hear Bill Gates offers better hourly rates and insurance, plus paid vacation!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
22. I'll have to look into that. Unfortunately Putin's offering the big bucks...
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jun 2017

...but not to the likes of us, alas

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. My view is the time to hit the streets was on Nov 8, 2016.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 03:07 PM
Jun 2017

We missed the opportunity to keep Trump out of office because some that claim they believe as we do were too pure to vote for our candidate.

Trump and the right will welcome street protests. Then the cops can set on protesters, beating them and giving them records. How does that help progress?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
33. Due to the laws of time that is moot now
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jun 2017

Except to perhaps discuss in regards to future contingencies. Do you believe we could have kept Trump from taking office by taking to the streets without getting beat up by cops etc.? I think we would have greater wide spread support for taking to the streets in this instance than we would have had immediately after the election

No, Trump and the right will not welcome street protests over Trump firing Mueller. Trump will only fire him as a last resort to try to save his skin, not to instigate protests to then crack down on. I remember the 60's when Watts and Detroit burned. I don't want to relive those days but I will say this. Even Republicans understood why so many people were fighting mad back then. It absolutely freaked them out and a lot of people started talking about ways to defuse the anger who previously didn't give a flying f**k about poor people or blacks. They were literally fearful of widescale destabilization that could unravel a society that treated them so kindly.

No hint of violence is needed from our side, there should be none. A few on the far right will welcome some kind of melt down but the people who hold power and who profit from this society will not. Trump is at 36 favorable/ 60 unfavorable now. If he fires Mueller those approval numbers will drop lower. The Republicans would be watching to see if Trump could ride out the storm he would cause by firing Mueller. If they sense he can they will close ranks around him. If they sense he can't they will throw him overboard. We will make the difference in that determination.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. I prefer to vote wisely over protesting in the streets.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jun 2017

Sorry, I am not on the protest instead of vote wisely and strategically bandwagon. The time to stop Trump was Election Day 2016, anyone that thinks differently is fooling themselves.

Street protests didn't stop Bush from fucking up the country, neither will they stop Trump. Voting wisely stops republicans by keeping them out of power.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
26. This is an excellent idea.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jun 2017

A general strike, like they have in Europe that shuts everything down.

We must do this if Muller gets fired. Spread this to all social media!!

I know that everyone can't participate since we shouldn't want anyone to lose their job. But, those who can, should.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
37. By all means spread it, use your own words, use your own networks...
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jun 2017

If it happens a lot of people need to be ready to respond quickly. People seeing a lot of other people on the street will help it mushroom - but only if a large first wave mobilizes promptly.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
27. If Mueller is fired
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jun 2017

they will try to make it fly with suppression of free speech

and suppression of voting rights in 2018

We would have no society left if we accepted Mueller being fired

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
35. If they can get away with that there's no stopping them. Reaction must be swift and overwhelming
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 04:57 PM
Jun 2017

And it can/should be totally non-violent in shockingly massive numbers. We can do this. Enough people, even centrists, feel the way we do about shutting down an investigation to protect someone who would then appear obviously guilty. Our numbers will feed on themselves as neighbors see neighbors drop what they are doing to gather in town squares.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
31. Trump will fire Mueller...Why? Becuse we, (Democrats) tell him not to...and,
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jun 2017

no other reason is necessary for this person. We tell him one thing, he does the opposite...

Perhaps if we tell....him to ....."now Mr. President, you need to watch what you eat.".....who knows what he will eat...................??????
He almost always does the opposite of what we tell him. He acts out of hate for those who suggest better ideas than his. cause....his ideas are always the best..."he thinks"...and that is very dangerous....

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
32. Great idea
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jun 2017

That would be take the train, transfer to Metro, get off at Union Station and start walking the streets. Similar to January 21.

There is too much information in the MSM and it cited sources, that russia has hacked into our election systems.

What gets me is the complete lack of concern the GOP Senators and Representatives have shown. Their lack of action/concern causes me to jump to ideas like: Impeach, treason, traitor, and renaming GOP to kGOP.

You don't play kiss . . s with the Russians. But, hey, we won with their nefarious activities. That's okay.

The kGOP won (by their silence), and pRezident dRumpf won and won't reveal how significant the russian investment is in his and family business enterprises.

We have names on walls round the country as a result of russian influence. Honor the ultimate sacrifice, the GOP does not want this win with the help of the russians.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
38. I hope you are also passing on this contingency call to action.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jun 2017

I've had about a dozen shares so far off my similar to this Facebook post. Use your own words. It's because I find it so important that Mueller's probe be allowed to finish a thorough investigation that I'm doing this. If those around Trump become genuinely fearful of the magnitude of the reaction to Mueller being fired - maybe he won't be.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
39. I have 42 Facebook shares on this so far already, and I have less than 300 Facebook "friends"
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

I'm not a big Facebook user but this is striking a chord.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
41. A kick because these times warrant it
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

We must be prepared to take to the streets - in a completely non violent manner. The latter is part of what we need to get a jump on - channeling anger into peaceful protest should this moment arise.

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