Oh, we're "angry" and "hostile" now, huh?

[TheFerret]

Somewhat predictably, a bunch of voices from the GOP are out making the rounds already, screeching that after the endless parade of right wing shooters/murderers all being Lone Wolves Who Couldn't Possibly Have Been Motivated in Any Small Way By the Perpetual Right Wing Outrage Media Machine, today's shooting (well, the first one. There was actually a SECOND mass shooting.) is 100% the fault of the Entire Left and their unfair criticism of the Poor Put Upon Victim in the Oval Office.

Ok.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU.

Seriously, fuck right off forever.

And before we move on, Fuck You Too, James Hodgkinson. Fuck you for thinking you have the right to gun down any human being who disagrees with you. You're a murderous piece of shit and you're no different from any other murderous piece of shit. You're Dylann Roof. You're George Zimmerman. Fuck you for all eternity.

Now, for Newt and co. I believe we were at "fuck off."

You want to blame anger on the left for this? You think we should "tone it down?"

No.

FUCK no, in fact.

You're right, though. We ARE angry.

We're angry you've thrown the full weight of one of our nation's two great political parties behind a cheap con man, a petty crook, a serial sexual abuser, a minority-blaming fear-monger, a racist sack of trash, a wannabe authoritarian doing all he can to knock down the fundamental pillars of American democracy

We're angry you're trying to steal health care from millions of us just to give a fat stack of money to your billionaire donors.

We're angry that you've pulled us out of the Paris Climate Agreement, that you pretend climate change is fake in order to better do the bidding of the fossil fuel companies that fund your party.

We're angry that you refuse to conduct oversight as the President and his grifter family repeatedly break the law doing all they can to use their office to line their own pockets.

We're angry that you stand silently by as the President attacks the judiciary and the press, as he lies about voter fraud. Obviously we're angry that you stand behind a dirtbag who incited violence time and time again on the campaign trail, and somehow act like any criticism of him, however legitimate, is to blame for this morning's tragedy.

We're angry that you shield the administration from the consequences of their crimes. That you refuse to hold them to account for their perjury and their obstruction.

We're angry that you're trying to destroy Planned Parenthood, that you don't believe women have the right the make decisions about their own reproductive health, their own bodies.

We're angry that you refused to recognize LGBT Pride month, that you act like the great civil rights battle of the 21st century is fighting to allow bigots legal cover to humiliate and discriminate against their fellow Americans under the comical guise of "religious liberty."

We're angry that you're shitting on our constitution in a cowardly, fear-driven attempt to impose a religious test on refugees and immigrants.

We're angry at the surge in civilian casualties in the increasingly unsupervised military actions in the Middle East.

We're angry that you're trying to cut everything from medical research to the State Department to NPR to meals on wheels just so the richest among us can be a little richer.

We're angry that you're trying to sell public lands to fossil fuel companies. We're angry that you're selling out public schools. We're angry that you're trying to steal away our hard-won consumer protections to make it easier for predatory financial institutions to take advantage of us. We're angry that you're attacking net neutrality.

We're angry that you find yourself in power at least partially because of the malicious actions of a hostile foreign adversary, and that you're doing everything you can muster to cover up for them, to shield those who benefited from accountability.

And yes, we're angry, by the way, that you've done everything in your power to make sure that guns, even semi-automatic guns with high capacity magazines, are pathetically easy for anyone to get ahold of without trouble, even domestic abusers like the man who shot up the GOP congressional baseball practice this morning. You may recall a few weeks ago, when you repealed a regulation that made it harder for the mentally ill to purchase firearms. We're mad about that, too. We're angry about all the senseless, useless, utterly preventable gun deaths, from Sandy Hook to Aurora to Pulse to the shooting at a UPS facility in San Francisco just today, all enabled by your shameful servility to death merchants in the NRA. We're not just angry about the mass shootings, of course. We're angry about the children who die when they find their guardian's unsecured gun. The victims of gang violence. The countless women murdered by abusive partners. The suicides that need not have been. The arguments that turned fatal because a firearm was near. The law enforcement officers killed by armed criminals. And all those lives lost just from gun accidents. You're goddamn right we're angry.

In short, we are, you're right, mighty fuckin' angry about a whole bunch of shit that we are 100%, completely, totally, overwhelmingly CORRECT TO BE ANGRY ABOUT. Anyone who loves their country, their planet, and their fellow human beings is going to be angry about this shit.

And now, we're even angrier at the bullshit double-standard you're applying to this tragedy in contrast to all the others. That you have the gall to attempt to order us into silence while you keep destroying our nation under the bumbling "leadership" of the petty tyrant goon you're all so willingly enabling is as galling as it is laughable. I feel like I'm repeating myself, but Fuck Right Off.

We're not shutting up, Newt, sorry. We'll continue overwhelming your call boards, protesting at your town halls, and marching in the streets. We will continue to meet your horrific agenda with the hostility it so richly deserves. And come election night next year, we're kicking your sorry, collaborating asses straight to the private sector.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

My god, Ferret, you've hit it out of the ballpark once again.

Your anger is palpable. It comes right through my computer screen and I find myself nodding angrily in agreement.

WELL SAID, AS ALWAYS!

I am really glad we have you on our side, and that you're writing here on DU. This stuff is so good.

Thank You.

[annabanana]

2. So true, so true. . .

WE aren't the ones who brought violence to the dance.

[underpants]

3. I believe we were at "fuck off."

another fantastic post

[barbtries]

4. very quickly you may want to edit this:

"You're a murderous piece of shit and you're different from any other murderous piece of shit."

i'm thinking you mean no different?

[TheFerret]

6. Thank you.

Good catch.

[BainsBane]

5. the shooter was not a Democrat

[IronLionZion]

15. Conservatives disown every conservative shooter and terrorist

and place them on our side, every single time. It makes them feel better about RW hate radio. It's just alt facts. Real facts have a well known liberal bias and cannot be trusted.



Things don't have to be true for Trumpers to believe them.

[SunSeeker]

26. Correct. His facebook page spewed hate toward the DNC.

His facebook page indicates he was a Bernie Sanders supporter who voted for Jill Stein. What does that make him, an Independent-Green?

What is clear is he was batshit crazy.

[Hortensis]

62. The left-wing angrily anti-Democrat basket has to include

all the various types, from fairly mild to batshit crazy, because there aren't enough of most to notice. Together, though, there are enough that the threat of them joining the far right against us is scary. That extremely dangerous alliance is a big part of what happened in Germany. They overwhelmed decent mainstream people who knew their advanced white Christian democracy was a shining example for the world.

[Progressive dog]

69. Your last sentence made me ashamed to

have agreed with the first part of your post.
Our society has many people who are not white, we accept many who are not Christian (and we have lots of flavors of Christianity) and we are an advanced society that has never been "overwhelmed" by the likes of the Nazis or the communists.

[Hortensis]

70. You should be afraid, as we all should. Do you imagine

the various skin colors here would change anything? People are human beings everywhere.

The fact is that in the pre- WW2 years, when Europeans heard of genocide, it was mostly far away committed by people of other colors and religions. They didn't imagine it was anything that people like them -- educated citizens of advanced, white, Christian nations -- would or could be capable of, certainly not in the 20th Century.

Well, we are. And in America WE (the big "we" of all humanity, not just whites) are not less capable of atrocity because WE are far more diverse than Europe was.

Btw, Jews were only about 1% of Germany's population. Most people didn't even know any, or hate them. You might keep in mind that Muslims are even fewer here these days. Their tiny numbers make them much better victims than our Hispanic and black groups, and both small groups are in fact being demonized and targeted for hate right here, right now.

[Progressive dog]

74. Germany started two world wars

and Europe had a history of pogroms against the Jews.

[Hortensis]

76. Well, good thing America's unsullied by European culture.

Or East Asian, or African, or Middle Asian, or South American.
Or right wing extremism or left wing extremism.
Or religious bigotry or anti-religion bigotry and hate.
Or political bigotry and hate.

Phew! Put that way, you're right. It couldn't happen here.

Oh, wait. Political scientists are measuring growth in political extremism on BOTH the right and left on America. A good 2/3 of our people have great hostility toward the other party, a large number of those unreachable by truth. As we see this increasing demonization of the other right here on DU.

It's no longer just a right-wing thing. Large numbers of citizens are developing increasingly extreme viewpoints, and some are beginning to look for extreme solutions.

[Progressive dog]

83. What the devil are you saying

and what part of Hitler was not an American did you disagree with?

[7962]

103. But comparing Jews in the 30s to the Muslims now is a tough job

Jews were fairly well assimilated in germany and had been. They also never attacked Germany or called for it to be a Jewish state. Now we have attacks fairly often by muslims, either immigrant or native, and calls for violence from far flung "leaders". And the rarely mentioned fact that in many countries in the EU muslims do not assimilate into the host country very well. they have no desire to do so. Unlike most immigrants to the US, who wanted to become part of the society as soon as possible. Non-assimilation is the bigger problem that seems to get little attention. of course you're going to feel "left behind" if you refuse to become part of the society you live in.

[Hortensis]

104. I'm not talking about Muslims, I'm talking about us.

This was not an invitation to support arguments for targeting Muslims.

Btw, my husband's a Jew, our children half Jewish. I know what to think of antisemites, and if my family were Muslim and being targeted it would change nothing -- including the identities of most of their enemies.

We would all benefit from reading up on bias (the word psychologists and social scientists use for bigotry and racism). It is part of a person and comes from within that person, or not. It's not imposed on them by their would-be victims.

Most people with that in them are actually disposed to bias against almost all groups but the one they identify with, though at any point in time they may be more passionately hostile toward one group than others. This, of course, could always change with the lighting of a torch by some bad but charismatic leader who wants to turn a crowd on some other target. And often does.

[Progressive dog]

84. I'm curious as to what this has to do with

what I wrote.

[Progressive dog]

88. The USA fought Hitler's Germany and Hitler's Germany lost.

At that time the USA had lots of open fascist sympathizers and many more communists than now. That is fact.

[Iplayoneontv]

85. So was that guy in Portland!

That's disconcerting.

[Nevernose]

113. That would have been clear just from the Stein vote

That's a special brand of stupid & crazy all on its own.

[Progressive dog]

66. No he wasn't as his

facebook page makes clear. He hated Hillary.

[TNLib]

7. One minute were wussy Social Justice warrior snowflake cucks the next we're angry murderous killers

I wish they'd make up their minds.

[Cosmocat]

18. YEP

blows in the wind depending on what is out there to grab hold, and as equally nebulous as their capacity to make themselves out as resolute tough guys one moment and pearl clutching victims the next.

[shraby]

8. A rant worthy of the word!

You keep on keeping on Ferret.

[jimlup]

9. It strikes me as odd

that everything is fine when someone on their side does it. Politics of hate are perfectly OK with them. They love their guns and their politics of hate - particularly democrats and the further left the better.

But when the situation is reversed they suddenly give cries of "end the politics of hate!" Never was that heard on their side during the time following the Gabbie Giffords shooting.

It is far beyond Hypocrisy!

[barbtries]

12. republicans lift hypocrisy up

to a god like level. their hypocrisy has often taken my breath away.

[FiveGoodMen]

35. They do that because it works.

Tell the big lie often enough and everyone believes it.

Accuse the other side of what YOU'RE actually doing and then when the other side says "wait, that's you doing that" the public just thinks it's sour grapes.

We can't win by trying to have an honest debate with their propaganda machine, and we can't use similar techniques without becoming liars, ourselves.

We must find a way to shut down the GOP noise machine. (Or else just give up and accept defeat)

[CrispyQ]

114. The dems have ignored hate radio. Until something is done about that, nothing will change.

Back in the 80s the right started funding think tanks to craft the message & bought radio stations to broadcast it. There are huge areas of the country where Limbaugh & his ilk are all that's on AM radio. I have rwnj cousins who listen to AM radio & they hate liberals. Hate them. Everything bad in America is the fault of the liberals. One of them even advocates open season on liberals, or libtards as they like to call us. This is an issue the dems & the left have ignored.

[dalton99a]

10. Fuck the GOP

Thank you, Ferret.

[irisblue]

65. Well you said my belief. Thank you Ferret & fuck the GOP. easy peasy

[handmade34]

11. !

[Saviolo]

13. You are correct!

The GOP has been pushing its stochastic terrorism for years, now. Today they've discovered that once it's been started they can't just aim it wherever they want:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029203595

[lunasun]

14. You had me at Fuck right off

[hamsterjill]

16. K&R

Well said!

[AuntPatsy]

17. .

[democrank]

19. Write on, Ferret.

Powerful words worth repeating....and recommending.

[smirkymonkey]

20. Hear, hear!

[D_Master81]

21. I've noticed

I've noticed that the Repubs are always the 1st to do something, and then when the left returns the favor, they cry foul. They investigated Clinton for yrs to find a lie about getting a BJ in the White House. Seriously, they investigated for years for that, now they say we should move on from investigating whether the current admin colluded w/ a foreign govt after several months.

Back in the early 00's they were the 1st to write legislation in closed door meetings w/ no Dem input. When we turned around and did it under Obama they cried from the roof tops.

Look at how they did all they could to block Obama and nearly drive the economy off the cliff w/ a default. Now Dems are laughably called "obstructionists".

Look at how the Tea Party got the right wing riled up back in 2010, now supposedly we're not allowed to do that? I had a friend tell me he was at a campaign even for our now congresswoman, Jackie Walorski, who said she would "hunt Nancy Pelosi down in the bathroom if she had to to 'give her a piece of her mind". None of this was wreckless??

Waa waa, obviously we dont want to physically harm the Republicans, but they've been dishing this shit out for close to 25 yrs now through the talkers on radio and fox news. they've created a completely alternate universe where facts are "alternative". And now we're the ones responsible? As the original poster said it best FU!

[Raster]

22. PREACH, Brother Ferret! PREACH!

[iluvtennis]

93. +++ agree

[SHRED]

23. BRAVO

[bora13]

24. inquiring minds want to know

I hereby declare, (I do declare!), that I am strictly in defensive mode physically and
in offensive mode mentally. I am just as ready to punch back twice, no thrice as hard as Donald J. Trump.

No jackass with a gun or bomb or other destructive device will ever define me. might kill me but not define me.

P.S.

i have always wanted to use "hereby" in a sentence. My bucket list is nearly complete.

[burrowowl]

25. Great Rant!!!!!

[The_jackalope]

27. Exceptional! And exceptionally timely.

I hope you don't mind, I've shared it to my FB timeline. It may help flush a few more of my friends into blocking range.

[LOL Lib]

30. I love this. Thanks!

[SunSeeker]

28. Thank you, I needed that.

[LOL Lib]

29. Thanks OP!

Fuck them all.

[Vinca]

31. You so fucking nailed it. Especially about guns. If the assholes listened to the left for one

nanosecond on guns, this might not have happened. He might have gotten the gun, but be might not have been able to discharge so many bullets. Someone might have been able to stop him sooner. I'm so sick of living in a country where going to a baseball field is a risk to your life.

[samnsara]

38. maybe the best thing to happen is for a 'lib' to have done the shooting...

...now the GOP can cry victim and try to 'fix the problem'...also shows them we are armed as well.

[Initech]

32. Bravo!!! Fuck the hate mongerers in the GOP!

[chillfactor]

33. THANK YOU!

This is GREAT post and you said everything I feel....reocons are out to destroy this country to appease their wealthy donors.

[Warpy]

34. If they had any clue just how pissed off we really are

the only time they'd see the outdoors would be heavily guarded on the way from barricaded office to armored car to barricated home and back. They'd be spending the proceeds of their insider trading deals and under the table lobbyist goodies on beefing up security, creating sort of an arms race, keeping up with the Jonses in the number of bodyguards and Jersey barriers around the kid's swing set in the back yard.

Why are so many morbidly obese old blowhards given such long lives these days? I thought fat was deadly.

At least Republicans finally realize we're not the only ones in the cross hairs these days. An armed society isn't a polite society, it's a terrified society.

[samnsara]

36. my RWNJ sister started spewing the hate filled rhetoric this morning in our..

family chat room. Saying how Dems and Liberals are hateful and the same thing as Isis. I finally said FUCK YOU ( in the presence of both our children, grand children and my mom). Shes the only RWNJ in our family..recently moved to Seattle from Idaho for an organ transplant she didn't have to pay for (Thank you Obama care)..on SSI ( thank you Dems). I yelled to her in capital letter.. telling her SHAME on her for politicizing this tragedy. Then she went on a rant about how Trump is getting jobs for ppl. I wanted to SCREAM!!!! Again I told her to fuck off that she can just go back to fox and let them coddle her and keep her away from the real world. This is the 36% of his supporters who will never believe anything bad about him even tho his health care is going to make her pay the 20K a month for meds. and I aint gonna chip in! My other lib sister has a PhD in Psych and she tried her best to 'psych' her but sometimes the only thing you can say is FUCK YOU and hang up.

[Amimnoch]

37. It's the new Reichstag fire.

I just said (again) this last Sunday that something like this is in the making.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9189815

I fully expect a Reichstag fire before then.

We're going to be attacked in some strong way, and that will be the excuse they use to completely shut-down the investigations, and consolidate power into him.

The man displays all 14 of the 14 characteristics of a Fascist dictator. He leads a propaganda campaign the likes of which Goebbels would envy. They will manufacture a nasty disaster before they allow him to fall, and it will scapegoat one of the named "enemies" of Muslims, "illegal immigrants", GLBT's, or some liberal/progressive group.

Mark my words, several things will come of this:
1. The media will be used as a scapegoat by them, and this will be used to, at the least, reduce the press clause of the first amendment.
2. If we think the Con's on Capital Hill have treated Democratic Party members, and leadership harshly so far, you haven't seen anything yet.
3. There will be a law (may or may not be passed) put on the table that specifically will target Democrats, liberals, progressives, and minorities gun rights while simultaneously increasing the gun rights for the Trump race.

It would not surprise me in the LEAST if this threat was known, staged, or willingly allowed by #45 and his winged monkeys.

[maryellen99]

39. We're being dehumanized nt

[Motley13]

40. Why are we angry & hostile????

per dolt 45, I could shoot someone on 5th ave & not lose any voters

we might have to use 2nd amend remedies - against HRC

I'd like to punch him in the face

throw him out, I'll pay for a lawyer to represent you

take him out on a stretcher

Our choke (president) is a cowardly bullying thug. Unless it is a fake WWE event he would run like a scared rabbit & claim "I have a sore foot"

[SpankMe]

41. Rec, rec, rec...

...and bookmarked. Great piece. Great piece. Wish I'd said it.

[Nevermypresident]

42. Yes, words do matter. Does congress and the media want

an honest discourse about this tragedy?!? In my lifetime I've never seen such rampant disregard and hostility towards the middle class, poor, sick, disabled and the old. Donnie and the repubs have gone a long way towards ramping up this anger and frustration. Not to mention the obstruction and stonewalling that has prevailed against those who want the truth about collusion/conspiracy with the Russians against our democracy.

Mix that with someone who has mental issues and .... Words do matter.

[BlueJac]

43. Get it on........

I totally agree, keep it up!

[pangaia]

44. How DO YOU do it ????

Gilder Glider posted your rant on FB..



https://www.facebook.com/Bodhisantra/posts/10155444553903824

[elmac]

45. They reap what they sow. nt

[mvd]

46. K&R

A lone nut is not going cause people to silence us. We are angry, but we know violence is not the answer. It would have to be self defense cases and wars like the American Revolution and WWII where violence was necessary.

[AllaN01Bear]

47. i am a angry white male , but not that kind of angry white male

i aggree with evrything what the poster says .

[Motley13]

48. Donald Trump's Craziest Quotes of All Time

In case you have forgotten


https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-quotes-crazy-racist-idiot-2733864

[ResistantAmerican17]

49. Yep! Fuck these Repugnant Pieces of Shit

They fill the bottle with gas, light the fuse, and they act indignant when they get burned. Fuck these clowns!

[yuiyoshida]

50. K&R and Tweeted

n/t

[ecstatic]

51. K&R. You've captured my feelings perfectly. nt

[Fait Accompli]

52. I say good, let them be afeared.

In the mighty words of Barry Crimmins: "I'm whatever threatens you. I'm a communist with AIDS and I bite!"

[dhill926]

53. this should be spread far and wide....

best yet. And please listen dem politicians. We gotta fight this shit...

[50 Shades Of Blue]

54. K & R!!!

[underthematrix]

55. Instead of reacting to the fake narrative about the

Virginia mass shooting, which was one of three today, retweet about the RussiaTrump investigation, call Congress about healthcare and tweet about it, retweet the tweets of fabulous white male Democrats who are smart, fierce, emotionally mature and secure, and have the heart of a public servant. When we react with anger to their lies, they win.

[pansypoo53219]

56. WHAAAAAMbulance!

[58Sunliner]

57. Thank you.

[robertpaulsen]

58. Best Damn Righteous Rant I've Ever Read on DU!

I've been posting here 14 years. This one is tops.

TheFerret rocks! Thanks so much for voicing my thoughts on this perfectly!

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

59. Righteous fucking rant...

You're right we're very angry. Shocked. Embarrassed.

I'm livid at what this country has become.

I'm not the only one, but I have lost many friends and family in the suck ass wars, that at the time we didn't agree with but still fought. Fought for everyone equally without thought of race, religion, political bearing, gender. They died believeing they would protect us and our country.

My angry tears burns my cheeks when I think of them giving it all in vain.

Damn right I'm angry.

Thank you for your post.

[kimbutgar]

60. Ferret another 1000% excellent post

You write the angst of what we are all feeling. I am so sick and tired of having to constantly turn the other cheek and accept the rethugs who sold out this country.

Jordan Klepper from Comedy Central did a show recently about guns and on both sides they all wanted more stringent background checks. This guy today in Virginia would not be owning a gun if we had one. I am so sick of the NRA and the rethugs.

[bluecollar2]

63. AMEN....n/t

[lunatica]

64. Christ! Thank you!

I can't add a thing to what you said.

[emmadoggy]

67. Your posts are righteous.

I read them all. You say exactly the things that are swirling in my mind, but you say it much better than I could. I find them to be both inspiring and cathartic.

I am so fucking angry at where we are right now, and the things that are being done are, and will continue to have a big impact on my family - especially my children. I am FUCKING ANGRY! Yet I feel defeated, helpless, and hopeless. The news is a constant barrage of FUBAR - worse than ever. I try to insulate myself from it a bit by not watching or reading a lot of news. I see headlines, read some things here and there, watch a little - but I don't need to see and hear every last bit of the shitshow to know there's a shitshow going on. Some may say I'm putting my head in the sand, but it's a self-protection mechanism for me at this point.

Anyway, thank you for your posts. You have become a fantastic and much-needed contributor here.

[Cryptoad]

68. Nuttin scares the shit out of Rethugs than,,,,,,

gun toting Liberals!

[dalton99a]

71. +1

[JPPaverage]

72. HELL YES!!!!!!

Very well said. Wish I would have said it, but since you did so eloquently, I will just say what you did. We are certainly angry about these , people, trying to tear down everything President Obama did and we are certainly angry they don't give a damn about us working stiffs. Thanks for posting. Great post.

[PelicanScot_V3]

73. You had me at "Fuck you" ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

EPIC! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[Nwgirl503]

75. Thank you for saying EXACTLY how I feel!

[countryjake]

77. One fine rant! K&R!

[kacekwl]

79. +1000 I agree with every word and am just as angry as you.

This is really not political but anger directed at all those from trump down who boldly and blatantly want to destroy me my family my country for the desperate need to enrich and empower themselves for no other reason than they can. I certainly don't condem violence but there will come a time when the beatings on ourselves becomes too much to bare and the pitchforks will come out. Maybe a little fear is a good thing.

[madokie]

80. Put so Well

One of my tRump voting friends called me this morning all beside himself about this. I say to him you know whose feet this all can be lain at don't you and yup he went off on tRump as if he wasn't a tRump supporter. My jaw is still on the floor, can't pick it up it hit so hard that it stuck. Not two weeks ago he was saying we need to give the cretin some space to allow him to get some shit done. I said at the time What get more people killed. I'm flabbergasted by this, by how quickly this person could change his mind and all the while not owning what he was in support of so few days ago. As if I don't remember or can't remember.

[Paladin]

81. +1000. Thank you. (nt)

[turbinetree]

82. I second your motion,

[moonseller66]

86. The first of more to come?

What I'm afraid of is this may just be the beginning of a sad trend. And not just about hatred of one man or one party but about how it will personally affect people's lives.

Imagine if the idiot's health care package goes through and millions lose any type of health care coverage. Further, should someone be told his or her wife, husband or child unfortunately will die because they can't afford decent or life-saving care, some will make a choice when they lose everything to try to save a loved one but can not. And when that person who has lost everything because basic health care was beyond their reach and finally realizes how it happened, they aren't going to be concerned whether he or she voted for either candidate or even didn't vote. That person could feel there's no other choice than taking some kind of, in their mind, justifiable action.

And when they realize bullets are a lot cheaper and easier to come by than finding bankrupting their lives trying to pay more money than they ever had in their life for health care, I think I can see a choice being made.

You can weigh all the "good thoughts" you want, but the bottom line is they will feel someone was responsible and could have prevented this. And they may just take matters into their own hands, because they feel they have nothing left to lose and are angry at...someone for their situation.

Yes. I think this may just be the start of something we hope won't happen but looks as though it will.
When people no longer have anything to lose, they won't care whose fault it was, even if it was their own.

And to think the media might have possibly prevented this, maybe as early as 2001. But they had money to be made for themselves, investors and owners...none of whom seems to give one damn about whether anyone else tries to exist.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[dalton99a]

89. You are not wrong

Desperate people will do desperate things

[bluecollar2]

90. kick...

[bdamomma]

91. K&R

[SergeStorms]

92. All together now.........

FUCK YOU, REPUBLICANS!

[mnhtnbb]

94. Righteous rant. Well said.

[wiggs]

95. The Ferret speaks for me! I know like-minded others I will forward this to. nt

[mr_lebowski]

96. Absolutely FUKCING RIGHTEOUS ...

[blue-wave]

97. I Absolutely Concur

And Ed seems to have a resemblance to someone but I can't quite place it....

[Lugnut]

98. K & f'n R! n/t

[MadDAsHell]

99. Agree, except for millions of us, there is no "healthcare" to steal from us...

...and we ain't correct about that one. The ACA didn't provide me "healthcare" by giving me the option to buy into a taxpayer-subsidized exchange plan with a $5,000 deductible. It simply provided me the option to buy into an insurance plan that I then can't really afford to use.

The ACA isn't providing healthcare to anyone. Instead, it's propping up a dying and incredibly inefficient and wasteful health care funding approach that we claimed, at least in 2008, needed to be replaced. Instead of replacing it, we actually further ENTRENCHED IT. The passage of the ACA was a hypocritical mistake that needs to be replaced with single payer pronto, and the more we defend it, the more hypocritical we look.

[K Stephens]

100. hellz yes

i agree

[get the red out]

101. Yep

I want to shoot people, while supporting gun control, sure.

[Blue Dalek]

102. REC'D this

Good post! Thanks

[MariaCSR]

105. Right on

[Mountain Mule]

106. K & R x 1,000,000,000!

[bresue]

107. Furthermore, we check and balance violent rantings in our party...

We are not afraid to call a turd a turd...regardless of party association. I am not sure what blog boards the shooter belonged to...but if he was on this one...he would have gotten a LOUD scolding. Would this have happened on the RW blog boards?

[linnknee]

108. Count Me In

I have felt this way since day one. I HATE THE GOP AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR. And the tons of poor people and deporables that vote for them are unfortunately ignorant.

I'm sure the gunman who shot at the baseball game was MENTALLY ILL just like all the white Christians that shoot up churches.
But mentally ill people can now get guns thanks to the GOP assholes.

[redstatebluegirl]

109. Thanks for saying what I have been thinking today.

My language would have been a little tamer, but I totally agree.

[Hugin]

110. I concur. nt

[CrispyQ]

111. Fuckin' A!

[Aristus]

112. K&R!

[Mad-in-Mo]

115. K&R.

Great stuff. Thank you.

[japple]

116. A friend on Facebook asked: Don't you ever tire of the viciousness?

Don't you ever tire of the viciousness? << This from a friend on facebook.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029204883

[weydowner]

117. Congratulations from England

As I get older, I find myself ranting to more and more of these damned things that make life irritating; - call centres, supermarket tills that go wrong, Brexit, the stupidity of humans in general, etc, but I envy you the terrific prose, the lucidity and the totally justified outrage of your words. Wish I could do the same.
I suppose it is not worth criticising the black and white nature of UK politics, but then we have not been blessed by Hurricane Donald. May I send my apologies that you have to suffer the many indignities of having him as a leader; all I can say is that when you are at the top of the Wheel Of Fortune, there is just one direction, and imagine the parties and jubilation when he is on the way down!
The most mild-mannered equable person will wait in line to kick the monster and desire to humilate him in the most personal way possible.
A Very Good Post.

[bluecollar2]

118. kick...

[Marthe48]

119. Exactly

just absolutely exactly. Thank you for writing this.