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Mira

(22,380 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:11 PM Dec 2011

DK - Alan Grayson steps up asking for help for Dennis - and I join that request

from my email inbox tonight

As the war in Iraq finally draws to a close, here is a quick quiz. Who said the following, and when, and and where?

“There is no world support for invading Iraq.”

“There is no proof that Iraq represents an immediate or imminent threat to the United States. . . . The Administration has refused to provide the Congress with credible intelligence that proves that Iraq is a serious threat to the United States, and is continuing to develop chemical and biological and nuclear weapons.”

“The Iraq regime has never attacked nor does it have the capability to attack the United States.”

“There is no credible intelligence that connects Iraq to the events of 9/11 or to participation in those events by assisting Al Qaida. . . . There is no connection between Iraq and the events of 9/11. . . . There is no credible evidence that Iraq harbored those who were responsible for planning, authorizing or committing the attacks of 9/11.”

“There is no credible evidence that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction.”

“Congress has not been provided with any credible information, which proves that Iraq has provided international terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.”

“Unilateral action against Iraq will cost the United States the support of the world community.”


So, who said this? Me? No -- I wish it were me. It was Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

And when? On October 2, 2002, six months before the War in Iraq began.

And where? On the Floor of the House, and in a letter to his colleagues in Congress.

Was it clarity? No, it was more than clarity. It was almost clairvoyance.

At a time when almost every public figure in America was hoodwinked and bamboozled by Bush Administration propaganda, Dennis Kucinich was not. Dennis Kucinich saw the truth, and he said the truth. And Dennis followed through, doggedly opposing the war in Iraq from alpha to omega.

Congress is full of replaceable parts. But Dennis Kucinich is not one of them. Dennis is unique.

Now Dennis Kucinich is in the toughest race of his 15-year career in Congress. The Republicans have tried to gerrymander him out of Congress. He needs your help, and he needs it now.

The Koch Brothers are not going to help Dennis Kucinich. Karl Rove is not going to help Dennis Kucinich. Fox News is not going to help Dennis Kucinich.

It’s up to us.


Before midnight on December 31, please make a contribution to Dennis Kucinich’s campaign.
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DK - Alan Grayson steps up asking for help for Dennis - and I join that request (Original Post) Mira Dec 2011 OP
IMPORTANT, please read: Kucinich will be going up against fellow incumbent Democrat Marcy Kaptur :( Tx4obama Dec 2011 #1
+1 Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #2
I so whole heartedly agree in principle: BUT Mira Dec 2011 #3
I am with you Mira in this case. MuseRider Dec 2011 #4
Exactly netania99 Dec 2011 #6
Who cares gender? What is her politics? That is more important. RC Dec 2011 #5
+1 And actions (votes) speak louder than words. DK is a national treasure. phasma ex machina Dec 2011 #11
+2 bahrbearian Dec 2011 #16
So it doesn't matter what they believe, or how effective they are, as long as ixion Dec 2011 #7
Why should Dennis back down just becuase she is female? MattBaggins Dec 2011 #8
Kay Bailey Hutcheson is a female. bvar22 Dec 2011 #18
KBH is a republican Marcy Kaptur is a Democrat AND.... Tx4obama Dec 2011 #19
Then perhaps you should have mentioned those points in your OP, bvar22 Dec 2011 #21
You apparently did not read the link I included in Comment #1 Tx4obama Dec 2011 #23
More Dennis please! :) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #9
K&R. I'm proud to stand with Dennis. But I'm curious.. mvd Dec 2011 #10
See comment #13. n/t Tx4obama Dec 2011 #14
Thanks. She seems pretty good except for choice and the death penalty mvd Dec 2011 #15
i live in his district and have known him for almost 20 years.... WCGreen Dec 2011 #12
On THE ISSUES Tx4obama Dec 2011 #13
I'll take DK bahrbearian Dec 2011 #17
I can't vote in OH obviously, but if I could DK would be my choice. nt NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #20
One of the few i respect in congress got root Dec 2011 #22

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. IMPORTANT, please read: Kucinich will be going up against fellow incumbent Democrat Marcy Kaptur :(
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:17 PM
Dec 2011

It's Kucinich (D) vs. Kaptur (D) In Ohio Congressional Race - (and Joe The Plumber is going for that seat too!)

More details here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1100130

p.s. I do NOT like the idea of Kucinich trying to boot a FEMALE Democrat out of Congress - we need MORE females in Congress not less!

Edited to add: http://marcykaptur.com/


Mira

(22,380 posts)
3. I so whole heartedly agree in principle: BUT
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:40 PM
Dec 2011

we need more like Dennis K. - gender is secondary.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
4. I am with you Mira in this case.
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:43 PM
Dec 2011

I have always supported DK and Kaptur has some questionable voting recently on women's issues, at least as far as I am concerned. I sent both Grayson and DK money the other day.

It is sad this has happened.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
5. Who cares gender? What is her politics? That is more important.
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:44 PM
Dec 2011

(D) means very little any more.

 

ixion

(29,528 posts)
7. So it doesn't matter what they believe, or how effective they are, as long as
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:48 PM
Dec 2011

they're they right gender/party. Got it.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
8. Why should Dennis back down just becuase she is female?
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:51 PM
Dec 2011

Should Obama step down and let bachman win if she were to be the GOP nominee?

Kaptur has a 30% NARAL rating on womens rights voting record.
Kuchinich has a 100% NARAL rating.

Why should I support Kaptur?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
18. Kay Bailey Hutcheson is a female.
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:10 PM
Dec 2011

So are Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin.

Gender offers NO guarantees.
Neither does Race, Sex, Religion, or any other social designation.

The ONLY thing to consider when casting a vote is
Where does He/She STAND on The ISSUES,
and does their Track Record match their Campaign Rhetoric.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
19. KBH is a republican Marcy Kaptur is a Democrat AND....
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 06:16 PM
Dec 2011

after the redistricting the majority of what is in the new boundaries is what what in Kapturs original district!
I just think it's shitty that Kucinich is going to try to boot her out of HER seat.
He could have decided to run for a different seat other than Marcy's.



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
21. Then perhaps you should have mentioned those points in your OP,
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 06:29 PM
Dec 2011

instead of focusing on her gender as the reason to vote FOR her.

Kaptur is an interesting Democrat,
but does NOT have the consistent Liberal bonafides of Kucinich.

I don't live in Ohio, but I will be sending donations to Kucinich.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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mvd

(65,173 posts)
10. K&R. I'm proud to stand with Dennis. But I'm curious..
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:52 PM
Dec 2011

How do Kaptur's policies compare with Dennis's? She seems liberal based on her site, but I hope close to Dennis's beliefs in case Dennis loses.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
15. Thanks. She seems pretty good except for choice and the death penalty
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:08 PM
Dec 2011

I'll stick with Dennis, though.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
12. i live in his district and have known him for almost 20 years....
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:19 PM
Dec 2011

But I am going to vote for Marcy Kaptur.

I believe she is much more effective as a legislator and is quite good at constituent matters.

It's a tough call, but for Ohio, I would think Ms. Kaptur would be the better choice due to seniority as well as temperament.

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