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RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:11 PM Jul 2012

"Voting is a privilege."

Last edited Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I just heard someone on Faux News say this during a "debate" over voter id laws Repugs are using to disenfranchise voters. I understand there is a technical legal argument that voting is not a right because you have to be a certain age and it can be taken away from you for being convicted of committing certain crimes but it's NOT a privilege. A privilege is a benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most. Do they want most Americans to NOT have the ability to vote?

Every person who is eligible to vote has a RIGHT to cast their vote. This is yet another of their pathetic excuses to try to pass these egregious laws that are clearly designed to reduce Democratic votes and the privilege claim is absolutely ridiculous. It just tells me these people are pure fascists who only want citizens who vote for THEIR SIDE to have the ability to cast their vote and that's exactly what they're trying to do.

UPDATE: Media Matters has a great blog post on this segment.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/09/fox-guests-voter-id-law-defense-voting-is-a-pri/187020

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"Voting is a privilege." (Original Post) RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 OP
voting is a responsible... handmade34 Jul 2012 #1
o.m.g. Just when you think they cannot get more pathetic, they do. jillan Jul 2012 #2
15th Amendment, 19th Amendment to the Constitution - pinto Jul 2012 #3
Don't forget the Twenty-sixth. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #20
Definitely a right, not a privilege. Laelth Jul 2012 #4
It is a privilege AND a responsibility, but it isn't supposed to be a privilege for the FEW. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #5
Thanks for that loyalsister Jul 2012 #14
Voting s a right, not a privilege like driving a car. To argue the later is to invite kiranon Jul 2012 #21
Wow they just talk off the tops of their stupid heads treestar Jul 2012 #6
Welcome to DU, but I must disagree. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #7
I think we agree RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #8
I agree Time for change Jul 2012 #9
Expect Faux to repeat this ad infinitum hifiguy Jul 2012 #10
They just don't quite think it all the way through do they? pa28 Jul 2012 #11
Wealth is a privilege, voting is a right. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #12
of course they also think that healthcare is a privilege as well. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #13
bullshit. spanone Jul 2012 #15
The inFOXicated are too rage-drunk to realize they are next JHB Jul 2012 #16
Technically true or not, anyone pushing that argument turns me off closeupready Jul 2012 #17
Yeah I heard that on a religious radio talk show, too! It's their current meme Th1onein Jul 2012 #18
The name of the bonehead who said this is Jay Sekulow RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #19

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
1. voting is a responsible...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jul 2012

and it is our responsibility to be educated about the process... when things start being considered privilege, that is when those things can be taken away...

pinto

(106,886 posts)
3. 15th Amendment, 19th Amendment to the Constitution -
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jul 2012
Amendment 15 - Race No Bar to Vote

1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 19 - Women's Suffrage.

1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
5. It is a privilege AND a responsibility, but it isn't supposed to be a privilege for the FEW.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

It's a "privilege" that ALL Americans should be allowed to practice responsibly, like driving a car or having children. Some people lose their privileges to basic rights by their own irresponsible behavior.

So maybe all those clowns who voted for this obstructionist, rethug Congress should have their voting rights revoked on grounds of the damage done to the nation under GW's watch?

I'm just saying...

Here is a good article which talks about it in an enlightened fashion:

Voting: A Right, A Privilege, or A Responsibility?



Tig

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
14. Thanks for that
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jul 2012

It's a good reminder of how the state\federal partnership operates.
The constitution mostly only draws lines at what states can't do. Since elections determine local representation (congressional and state districts, along with county and municipal divisions), election laws and regulations are best left to states and counties.
Anyone who is concerned about the integrity of elections, get to know your county clerk.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
21. Voting s a right, not a privilege like driving a car. To argue the later is to invite
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jul 2012

disenfranchisement. IMHO.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. Wow they just talk off the tops of their stupid heads
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

What a thoughtless use of words that is. To get a job on Fox you must have to prove you are stupid and dumb.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
7. Welcome to DU, but I must disagree.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012



"Faux" and "News" have nothing in common.

Faux is the propaganda arm of the RNC, largely subsidized by Rupert Murdoch.


RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
8. I think we agree
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jul 2012

"Faux News" = False News

As infuriating as it is, I watch it occasionally to monitor RNC propaganda.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
9. I agree
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jul 2012

If FOX "News" thinks that voting is a privilege, then someone should ask them who they think should have the right to determine who gets to exercise that "privilege". Though I wouldn't want to hear their answer.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Expect Faux to repeat this ad infinitum
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jul 2012

from here out. The fact that it is a constitutional right does not trouble the catapulters of the propaganda.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
11. They just don't quite think it all the way through do they?
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jul 2012

If voting is a privilege instead of a right for those who legally qualify you open up a door with some unpleasant things on the other side.

I wonder if this person would be OK with the idea of having voting "privileges" revoked due to tax arrears or delinquent child support payments.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. The inFOXicated are too rage-drunk to realize they are next
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jul 2012

I'd wish the fate of all useful idiots on them, but that would mean we'd already lost.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Technically true or not, anyone pushing that argument turns me off
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jul 2012

instantly. And I think it's a right, personally.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
18. Yeah I heard that on a religious radio talk show, too! It's their current meme
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jul 2012

Used to explain their suppression of votes. Sorry lying bastards.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
19. The name of the bonehead who said this is Jay Sekulow
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jul 2012

Of course, Megyn Kelly parroted him by repeating the claim that "voting is a privilege." The opposition guy (didn't catch his name) gave no response to this claim but did do a great job of presenting the facts such as the minuscule amount of voter fraud and the large number of voters who will be disenfranchised by voter id laws. And, as usual, they tried to talk over him and change the subject.

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