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Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:07 PM

Case file in Castile shooting is made public (dash cam footage)

http://www.startribune.com/case-file-in-philando-castile-shooting-to-be-made-public-today/429659263/

Warning: Graphic.

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Authorities on Tuesday released graphic dashcam footage of officer Jeronimo Yanez firing seven shots into Philando Castile's car last year, killing him as viewers watched the aftermath on Facebook Live.

The video and other data collected in the investigation was released following Yanez's acquittal last Friday in the July 6 killing that thrust Minnesota into the national debate over police use of force and racial profiling.

The video released by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) and Ramsey County Attorney's office starts about 9:05 p.m. as Yanez activates his squad lights to pull Castile over on Larpenteur Avenue near Fry Street in Falcon Heights for a nonworking brake light, and to see if he is the suspect in an armed robbery from four days earlier. Radio traffic said Yanez pulled over Castile because of they "just look like people that were involved in a robbery" because of Castile's "wide set nose."

The routine traffic stop turns deadly in about a minute. Yanez said he shot Castile seven times because he believed Castile was reaching for a firearm that he told the officer he had. In an interview with the BCA, Yanez said he assumed Castile would be reckless because he smelled marijuana.

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Reply Case file in Castile shooting is made public (dash cam footage) (Original post)
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 OP
SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #1
Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #2
Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #4
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #6
oasis Jun 2017 #3
Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #5
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #7
Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #8
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #9
Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #18
countryjake Jun 2017 #19
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #10
Thrill Jun 2017 #11
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #12
Thrill Jun 2017 #14
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #16
spanone Jun 2017 #13
countryjake Jun 2017 #15
countryjake Jun 2017 #20
Initech Jun 2017 #17
countryjake Jun 2017 #21
trentwestcott Jun 2017 #22
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #23
trentwestcott Jun 2017 #25
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #28
Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #24
brush Jun 2017 #26
Best_man23 Jun 2017 #27
Initech Jun 2017 #29
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #30

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:13 PM

1. Fucking Pig!

 

"He assumed Castile would be reckless because he smelled marijuana."

This guy should become the next Attorney General. Everyone knows that smoking pot makes you reckless and dangerous

This country is fucked. People are complete idiots, and will believe whatever they want, even when FACTS tell otherwise.

By the way....PIG.....pot makes you lots of things: tired, paranoid, hungry.....not reckless or a danger to you. That's more like Meth, dickhead.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:18 PM

2. I'm not seeing how they acquitted him

 

Castille didn't do things perfectly from the standpoint of what a CCW holder should do when pulled over, but I didn't see anything that should have given the officer any reason to shoot.

The officer shouldn't have said "don't pull it out" if his hands were going for his pockets. He should have commanded him to raise his hands.

"Raise your hands " is a positive command that leaves no room for ambiguity. It's clear and unambiguous.

"Don't pull it out" leaves room for him to still be reaching down to get a wallet or license and the person things he is following commands because he isn't going for the gun, but it looks like it to the officer. It's a bad command and reflects bad training and caused enough confusion to turn this situation bad.

As a CCW holder Castile should have notified the officer he was carrying first and from that point on not made any moves unless instructed to by the officer. That avoids any opportunity for anything you do to be mistaken for a hostile move, and is what I teach in my classes. But his mistakes were minor and while they may have contributed to the outcome it's only because the officer badly botched the encounter, it never should have happened regardless of Castilles movements there.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:26 PM

4. "I'm not seeing how they acquitted him..."

I don't know how any of those dozens of cops and patriotic citizens killing PoC minding their own business over the past few years got acquitted, but it just keeps on happening...

None of this will change as long as the criminal justice system sees black folks as less than deserving of basic human rights....

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:36 PM

6. odds of getting at least one person who (1) will refuse to convict any cop or (2) will buy

 

any story about being afraid for one's life when seeing a black man on a jury is pretty high.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:25 PM

3. The jury should be put on trial for "sheltering a criminal". nt

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:29 PM

5. Believe the Family is about to or has filed

a wrongful death suit against Roseville/St.Anthony and others.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:49 PM

7. Yep. Did you see Valerie Castile's Facebook video?

So powerful.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:26 PM

8. Yes,

Outside the twin Cities,we have seen both dash Cam and I phone video. Anyone know where Yaneze was moved to?

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:06 PM

9. I don't mean Diamond Reynolds' video, I mean the video Valerie Castile, Philando's mother, made.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:19 PM

18. Not watched that one.

Will try to do so. It appears the Police Department has some real Profiling issues. Used to live in the Mpls NW burbs,watched this type of crap happen. This will cost a Community some serious coinage.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:36 PM

19. Here is her video...




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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:06 PM

10. The Strib has now synchronized the dashcam and Diamond Reynolds' videos at that link.

Last edited Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:12 PM

11. Thats insane. Were there any minorities on the jury?

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Response to Thrill (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:13 PM

12. Yes.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:15 PM

14. And they went along with this? I don't get it

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Response to Thrill (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:18 PM

16. From the Strib:

http://startribune.com/yanez-juror-talks-about-difficult-and-emotional-deliberations/428966163/?section=%2F

Almost immediately, the jury in the trial of officer Jeronimo Yanez was leaning toward a not-guilty verdict an all counts.

The vote was 10-2, and after nearly 30 hours of deliberation, the two holdouts weren’t budging, said juror Dennis Ploussard.

Lots of opinions were shared, but in the end they were able to sway the two remaining “no” votes when breaking down the legal definition of the charges. He said they focused on the “culpable negligence” required for a conviction on the manslaughter charge.

Ultimately, Ploussard said, the prosecution didn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Yanez was guilty in the shooting death of Philando Castile...There were two black jurors, but Ploussard said they were not the two voting against acquittal. He declined to identify the two holdouts, who changed their minds Friday afternoon.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:14 PM

13. cnn just played it... Jesus.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:16 PM

15. ...



There are no words.

That jury wasn't forced to watch this?

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Response to countryjake (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:48 PM

20. That jury saw this video several times!

WTF!



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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:18 PM

17. Buy a dash camera, people.

Newegg and Amazon both have them for less than $100 right now. It's not safe out there right now. A dashboard camera is a worthwhile investment. You never know what can happen when you're behind the wheel.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:25 PM

21. Police hunt and kill black people like Philando Castile.

Police Hunt and Kill Black People Like Philando Castile. There's No Justice

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/19/philando-castille-police-violence-black-americans

Father’s Day weekend was a grim occasion to remind black parents that they are continuously hunted down by police in the United States. The weekend was bracketed by two stories of black adults killed by police in front of young, black children.

Before our timelines began to be filled with pictures of smiling dads over the weekend, black folks across the nation were accosted by news that Minnesota police officer Jeronimo Yanez was acquitted in the shooting death of Philando Castile. Castile, who had been stopped at least 46 times by police in his short 32 years on this Earth, was shot in front his girlfriend and her four-year-old daughter – the entire tragedy being streamed on Facebook Live...

~snip~

And not 48 hours later, news began to come out that an equally cruel police killing had happened: Charleena Lyles called Seattle police because of an attempted burglary. According to the police, they found her wielding a knife and shot her dead. Outrageously, Seattle police said: “There were several children inside the apartment at the time of the shooting, but they were not injured.” Those children – who family say were ages 11, four and one – were not injured, except for the small matter that they watched police kill their mother.

The particulars of how the police justified the killing of Philando Castile and Charleena Lyles are not important. Like Lyles, Castile was killed for a reason his mother summed up a while ago: he was “black in the wrong time and place”...





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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:59 PM

22. That was hard to watch

 

I can't see what Castile was doing with his hands, and I can't know exactly what Yanez saw, but from what I can imply based on the lack of obvious movement of the car and the lack of motion in the car or sound coming from the car picked up by the officer's mic it seems like the officer REALLY jumped the gun here and probably killed a decent human being over nothing. Yanez didn't even really raise his voice before shooting to let Castile know what he was doing that was making him scared. I think he should've at the very least gotten manslaughter. I hope they nail everyone involved in civil court. That poor kid in the backseat! Heartbreaking.

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Response to trentwestcott (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:01 PM

23. Castille also gave a terrible order: "Don't take it out, don't take it out." So what should he do?

Leave his hands where they are, where they're clearly causing Yanez some distress, or pull them out without taking "it" out, risking Yanez seeing something that isn't there? His training was either crap or left him at that moment, and his reaction afterwards shows he knows it, too.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:11 PM

25. I never thought of that

 

I never thought of it, but you're right. If he'd given a clearer order, something along the lines of "DON'T MOVE!" then Mr. Castile might've survived the encounter, and I'm not blaming Castile at all. Are you a member of law enforcement? I ask because your insight is informed.

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Response to trentwestcott (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:57 AM

28. Turns out Yanez was never trained on what to do when a driver says they have a concealed carry

Permit. That seems to be an issue.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:06 PM

24. If I was license to carry a gun and was in a car...

 

...being black or white or whatever, I would have done what Castile did and
stated I had a licensed gun. BUT, BUT, BUT I would have PUT MY FUCKING HANDS ON THE
FUCKING steering wheel and KEPT THEM THERE until the cop told me what to do.

I am in no way this killing was ok rather that people need to be smarter. I am very
sorry for this young mans death.

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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:18 PM

26. The panicky cop is totally responsible. He gave contradicting orders.

Castile told the cop he had a concealed carry permit and a firearm on him, as one is supposed to do.

On the audio you can clearly hear Castile tell that to the officer.

The killer then told him not to take the gun out but to show him ID and the permit.

When Castile, probably confused as to how to obey contradicting orders, tried to reach for his ID the cop without warning just pumped seven bullets into a car full of people.

IMO that's clearly reckless endangerment of the girlfriend and little girl's lives, not to mention the murder of Castile.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:10 PM

27. Until cops are no longer allowed to play the "I feared for my life" card in these cases

This shit will go on and on, no matter how many videos are recorded, no matter how many witnesses. Go back and look at every case where a cop shot and killed someone, in most if not all of the cases they said some form of "I feared for my life."

It sickens me we are going through this in the 21st Century.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:28 AM

29. I saw this on the Daily Show last night.

How are people not rioting in the streets right now?

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:19 AM

30. More from the case files:

Via https://twitter.com/b_stahl

The first time Diamond Reynolds watched the dash cam video is when she learned her daughter opened the car door after the shots were fired.

During her prep for trial, Diamond Reynolds said Castile's gun was not visible because his shirt hangs over the front of his pants.

During BCA interview, Yanez's partner, Joe Kauser, says officers not trained on what to do when pulling over someone who has a gun permit.

Two months before shooting #PhilandoCastile, Ofc. Yanez took a two hour de-escalation training.

How officer Yanez was trained to recognize signs of a threat:

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