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H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:58 PM Jun 2017

Spider Webs

Spider webs are fascinating. They come in various shapes and sizes. Often, one can see the spider that constructed the web sitting, waiting patiently. But, even if the web appears empty, one can be sure that a spider built the web. For there are no spider webs without associated spiders.

There are no criminal webs without criminals. At times, these webs of corruption and deceit are seen sans the criminals that have constructed them. Thus, investigations to untangle such criminal webs can take time. Investigations want to identify all the evidence required to trap the criminals in their web, and to convict them.

There are also investigative journalists who special in deconstructing such webs. There is an extremely valuable documentary on one such investigation of the Trump-Russian web that came out in May. I highly recommend it to everyone on this forum. Here is a link:



Enjoy!
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Spider Webs (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2017 OP
K&R!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #1
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #2
Rec. canetoad Jun 2017 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #5
Kicked and highly recommended! beam me up scottie Jun 2017 #4
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2017 #6
You're much more polite about it than i am. beam me up scottie Jun 2017 #14
Ha! H2O Man Jun 2017 #16
Kick for max exposure. oasis Jun 2017 #7
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #9
KnR Hekate Jun 2017 #8
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2017 #10
Love This Me. Jun 2017 #11
Thanks, Me! H2O Man Jun 2017 #12
Added An Edit Me. Jun 2017 #13
The Obvious ? Me. Jun 2017 #28
Well, I could H2O Man Jun 2017 #29
Hook, Line & Sinker Me. Jun 2017 #30
No. H2O Man Jun 2017 #32
MY Post Means I'm In Me. Jun 2017 #33
Oh, okay. H2O Man Jun 2017 #35
Tim Obrien On Rachel Me. Jun 2017 #36
About Sater Me. Jun 2017 #39
Very good! H2O Man Jun 2017 #41
Might have to H2O Man Jun 2017 #42
Mr. O'Brien H2O Man Jun 2017 #40
Part Two .... H2O Man Jun 2017 #31
Number 9 Me. Jun 2017 #34
Why do you have the feeling coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #37
Oh, a few things. H2O Man Jun 2017 #38
Brother I think you are being deliberately obtuse coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #44
Hey! H2O Man Jun 2017 #45
Sit ups are great for your back too coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #46
I know that H2O Man Jun 2017 #48
Yes I can see that coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #50
This Thread Me. Jun 2017 #43
Fascinating until you walk into one. B2G Jun 2017 #15
Right. H2O Man Jun 2017 #21
Thanks, Friend! kentuck Jun 2017 #17
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2017 #22
You always come up with worthy reading material, H2O Man calimary Jun 2017 #18
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #23
Check out the Iceland connection. Quanta Jun 2017 #19
Very good! H2O Man Jun 2017 #24
You are the media while MSM investigative reporters snooze and nap. (nt) magicarpet Jun 2017 #20
We might be H2O Man Jun 2017 #25
Thanks WaterMan malaise Jun 2017 #26
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #27
k and r and bookmarking. niyad Jun 2017 #47
Solid point. H2O Man Jun 2017 #49
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive... Rollo Jun 2017 #51
Today's Washington Post H2O Man Jun 2017 #53
K&R... spanone Jun 2017 #52

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. You're much more polite about it than i am.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jun 2017

I can't remember the last time I used so many expletives, probably sometime during the Bush years.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
10. Thank you.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:46 PM
Jun 2017

I'm likely going to post something featuring Malcolm Nance tomorrow. I think that DU:GD should serve as a resource center for people. (The other day, someone posted an OP that incorrectly implied that Mr. Nance is saying things that he absoplutely is not saying. Sometimes, we "hear" what we want to hear.)

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
12. Thanks, Me!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jun 2017

I've got a few more planned for this week. It just might be important for DUers to review some of this information before Friday evening.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
13. Added An Edit
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jun 2017

I found Rachel interesting last night, talking about the Eastern District and how many grand juries may be happening, including Flynn and referencing Sen. Whitehouse. We've heard the same such from some disputed sources on DU

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
29. Well, I could
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:57 PM
Jun 2017

be wrong -- as I often am -- but I have a feeling that both the NY Times and Washington Post will be running some mighty interesting stories on their web sites early Friday evening. Of course, they might wait until the Sunday newspapers. But I think Friday ......

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
35. Oh, okay.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jun 2017

I think people should be familiar with the players in the film. There's a few that should be in the news soon!

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
31. Part Two ....
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jun 2017

It's funny: I was thinking of a discussion we recently had about some tapes. And it hit me -- I could find a link to this film, which contains the answer, so to speak. Kind of like when hippies dissected Beatles albums, but it's there.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
38. Oh, a few things.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jun 2017

It's a combination of things, really. A few weeks ago, I noted that Flynn had been turned. Not "officially," but he has. The problem is that he's been well documented in lying for the past four years. And I keep talking about the meeting that Erik Prince attended on the island off of Africa. And I've stated that Treasury has been investigating the money flow for months now. Keep those three in mind between now and Friday (Sunday morning at latest).

Did you see Rachel's show this evening? She's already started reporting -- actually, based on another journalist's report -- about the very issues/people covered in the film in the OP.

Finally, remember Me's questions last week? For months now, I've pointed out the MI6 report's mention of Trump and the Russian prostitutes isn't exactly what people think? See, Trump might have been careful while in Russia. But Russian prostitutes travel outside of Russia. Sometimes on big, fancy boats.

Make sense?

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
44. Brother I think you are being deliberately obtuse
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jun 2017
Russian prostitutes travel outside of Russia. Sometimes on big, fancy boats.

Make sense?


Nope doesn't make any sense at all.

Bottom line it for me would ya?

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
45. Hey!
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

Low-blow, calling me "obtuse." I have been trying to lose weight. Don't pick on me.

I can tell that you did not watch the film that is linked unto in the OP. It contains information about the boat trips.

I'm off to do a sit-up or two.......

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
46. Sit ups are great for your back too
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jun 2017

No I can't watch the whole film. No time.

And I think it is too depressing for me.

In fact I will have to log out of DU until this whole thing blows over because it is too stressful.

Wrecking my good vibrations y'know.

Keeping my vibration high is very important to me especially right now.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
48. I know that
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jun 2017

many good people, including yourself, find the current situation depressing. I find some of it upsetting, of course, but I also find the process unfolding to be fascinating.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
50. Yes I can see that
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jun 2017

it could be fascinating to many people who are able to look at it objectively.

I can't be objective though.

I just want it to be over.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
15. Fascinating until you walk into one.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:26 PM
Jun 2017

I did a week's worth of cardio in about 20 minutes last week after doing so.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
21. Right.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jun 2017

My youngest daughter was about 5 when she got bit by a spider; her face looked like Carmen Basilio's after the second Sugar Ray Robinson fight.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
22. Thank you!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jun 2017

I'll be posting a good film of Malcolm Nance tomorrow. He puts everything together quite well. I think it could serve as a good DU:GD follow-up to the flick in the OP.

And Trump ranted against globalism in the campaign! What a jackass.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
23. Thanks!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jun 2017

I'm trying to put together a few good Trump-Russia OPs. I think they will serve the DU community well in the upcoming weeks.

Quanta

(195 posts)
19. Check out the Iceland connection.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:19 PM
Jun 2017

Something's up there. Iceland kicked out it's corrupt politicians and banksters after the last recession, and are being mentioned in this story. I am going to research this more.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
24. Very good!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jun 2017

We can do some research here on DU:GD, and perhaps have a group of us send it on to Rachel, Lawrence, and Joy on MSNBC.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
25. We might be
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:43 PM
Jun 2017

able to serve as middle-men and -women here on DU:GD. I'd venture that a group of us could put a few ideas together, and send them on to a few media sources that are interested in honest reporting.

niyad

(113,048 posts)
47. k and r and bookmarking.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

I notice him saying "IN russia"--which leaves the whole rest of the world for him to spend his russian money.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
49. Solid point.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 02:48 PM
Jun 2017

His careful use of those words stands out, once you are aware of their true meaning.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
51. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jun 2017

Trite but oh so true about Cheetolini...

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
53. Today's Washington Post
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jun 2017

breaking news story about Putin brings that web into much sharper focus.

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