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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy did Ossoff "lose?"
Seems like everyone has a different take.
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More people supported Karen Handel | |
24 (67%) |
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Hacked voting machines or fraud | |
5 (14%) |
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Incompetence at the DNC | |
1 (3%) |
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Ossoff was a bad candidate | |
2 (6%) |
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Ossoff was too centrist | |
0 (0%) |
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Confusion about poll locations | |
0 (0%) |
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The weather | |
1 (3%) |
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Voter suppression or purging | |
0 (0%) |
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All of the above (except Choice 1) | |
2 (6%) |
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Other | |
1 (3%) |
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leftstreet
(36,107 posts)Probably all of the above, but possibly also more people who turned out voted for the sour lemoned face woman
Mister Ed
(5,930 posts)"Republicans in a Republican district voted Republican."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)the equation just a little bit, but I guess not. Either fraud occurred, or the so called "educated" people of District 6 are dumb/stupid/deplorable as hell. Those are the options.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)both sides got plenty of outside money but he should have moved into the district to deflate the "carpetbagger" slurs that were certain to come his way. Hell, he couldn't even vote in this election...
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)2 miles outside the district. OMG! Are people really that petty?
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)I like Ossoff a lot and if he wants it he has a future in politics but that's just the type of trivial bullshit Republicans make hay over.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)but it only needed to matter to a few percent of the votes in play.
FWIW, if the roles were reversed, I'd bet my last dollar that the Democrats would hammer an out-of-district opponent in a similar fashion. And there's no excuse to leave yourself vulnerable to that line of attack. Lease an apartment for six months, sublet your place. It's not that hard...
RegexReader
(416 posts)when millions of $$$$ are being thrown around.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)if he had moved into the district?
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)but not even being able to vote in the elections horrible optics, regardless.
I'm hoping we don't tap out our donor base chasing seats in Red districts. If we have the money, fine, but if we start coming up short we could find ourselves losing seats we currently hold. I just wish I had a better feel for the capacity we have to raise money over the next 3+ years...makes me nervous.
fallout87
(819 posts)Moving to the district would have taken wind out of the right wingers' sails.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)in his district.
Nutshell.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)?
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Freethinker65
(10,017 posts)Overwhelmingly Republican district
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Doodley
(9,088 posts)treacherous rush hours to vote in Cobb or North Fulton. That was a factor among many.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Judge gave an extra month to register after the April Special election and people had almost a month to vote early and 6 weeks to mail in a ballot. Polls accept utility bills for ID. There aren't a lot of valid excuses. I get the district was gerrymandered 40 years ago by Dixiecrats, but we gotta quit making excuses.
Alea
(706 posts)I hope you don't mind me saying that.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gun fanciers afraid of the increasing minority demographics (although they are a little more polite than some areas in the South). Avoiding issue of gunz was smart politics in that District, if not good for society.
But the fact is there is little excuse for not voting in Georgia. They've made it pretty easy for almost everyone.
fallout87
(819 posts)District and when the locals saw the money from California pouring in they showed up in droves
still_one
(92,187 posts)There were 5 Democrats running in that race, including Ossoff.
There were 11 republicans running in that race, including Handle
and 2 independents.
Here were the results for the top 5 before the runoff:
Jon Ossoff (Democratic) 48.12%
Karen Handel (Republican) 19.77%
Bob Gray (Republican) 10.8%
Dan Moody (Republican) 8.84%
Judson Hill (Republican) 8.76%
All the others in that race had less than 1%,
Because of that, Ossoff had a real chance to win the election outright, but not the runoff. That was always a fact, inspite of the media and blogger bullshit. If Ossoff didn't win the election outright, the odds were very much against that he would win the runoff, because all those other republicans would line up behind Handle, and those <1% ers, would add up to about 2% points in Handle's column, along with the undecided, since a point that seems to be conveniently forgotten, that district has been as red as they come for decades.
That Ossoff lost by 5% in the runoff is amazing considering that Tom Price won that district by double digits
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)mvd
(65,173 posts)It's really bothering me though because I thought we had a real chance. Felt some people there would be turned off because of Trump. Ossoff seemed to lose support compared to before. Fits with never ruling the hacking the voting machines out.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)The term "broken glass Republican" comes to mind. Republican voters tend to be more politically active and more reliable and partisan when to comes to voting.
We had a decent chance, but need Trump at 31% nationally before core Republicans peal off. Also, Ossoff shot himself in the foot by not living in the district.
mvd
(65,173 posts)I was not wrong.
Motownman78
(491 posts)switched to the Dem this election from 2016. So no, you are still wrong saying they are not leaving him. They are not leaving in a big enough way to sway a +24 district.
mvd
(65,173 posts)This was my whole point. I thought there would be enough Trump disapproval to give us a real chance.
Motownman78
(491 posts)Bush was at about 40%, and was at about 33% in November 2006. I think if GA-06 was a R +10 district we would have won.
LeftInTX
(25,305 posts)Maybe weather was a factor.
JI7
(89,248 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)He needed about a 5-6 pt spread among early voters. Instead he got 1.4 percent.
I knew he was cooked when he didn't win the first vote. With 4 Republicans in the race that was his best shot.
kentuck
(111,090 posts)Should have let him run his campaign and kept it low-key, instead of making a big deal out of it and giving the Republicans a chance to run their propaganda machine against the Democratic Party machine. Democrats cannot beat them at that game. Need to be more guerrilla-oriented and working with the element of surprise, just like in battle.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Notice the SC-5 race didn't and it was closer. I'm no poli sci academic but I'm sure that makes for some interesting discussion in those circles.
Fait Accompli
(40 posts)I'll probably get flack for this, but blanket anti-Trumpism mixed with milquetoast centrism ain't gonna win elections.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)LBM20
(1,580 posts)tough to flip these. In November they won it by over 20 points. They have a large registration advantage. Also, not actually living inside the district hurt, and the R's also nationalized the race and called him a Pelosi Liberal. That hurt too.
It says a lot that they were able to make this a pretty close race, though I thought it would be even closer. Rain probably had more an impact in the Dem areas.
They worked hard and tried hard in a VERY tough situation. Let's give them some credit.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)he should have rectified when it was first brought up in the Primary. A noble reason to support his girlfriend, but these are the major leagues. It left him open to the ironic charge of being an outsider, when he was from there and Handel from DC.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 21, 2017, 06:06 AM - Edit history (1)
wouldn't they have made an issue about him only living the in the district for a short time and also his support from out of the district? would he had done better if the election had been localized instead of nationalized?
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)outside G-06 rather than Handel being from DC, which should have been a bigger deal. Yes I agree, it should have been kept local. At least if he lost, it wouldn't hurt so bad.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)?
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)When they pulled Republican congressmen out of their districts to form Trump's cabinet, they chose them from very reliably Republican districts.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Probably falls within "supported Handel", but I think the distinction matters. A chunk of the voters just wouldn't support any Democrat, same as we'd never vote for a Republican.
HAB911
(8,891 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts).
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)deserving the title "human". They are a fucking disgusting lot, the mass of them, and I refuse to have anything further to do with any of them. I want Trump to visit great calamities on each and every one of their heads (while sparing their children, if such is at all possible). I want to see those bastards suffer in Biblical proportions.
As soon as anyone in my personal or professional circle self-identifies as Republican, I immediately move to sever all contact with them from that point forward. I began this policy on Nov 8, 2016.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I don't have any proof, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was massive voter fraud involved...as always.