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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:52 AM Jun 2017

I hate him.

And you don't understand when I say "I hate him."

I. Hate. Him.

Because I have been taught by my parents, by my peers, by my elders, not to hate anyone. Period. And all for good reason, because hate is an absolutely devastating emotion that is never helpful for anyone. Harboring hatred in one's heart is never healthy.

I could be angry at people, nauseated by them, disgusted by them, horrified by them, disturbed by them, and have the extreme most level of dislike and disdain possible for them. But I have never hated anyone.

Murderers, rapists, financial fraudsters who have bilked millions--I have the utmost contempt in the world for such people. But I've always taken the approach that if you lock them up and throw away the key and let them rot away in jail for the rest of the life and let them slip away from memory, that's good enough. Out of sight, out of mind. But I did not hate them.

There have been political figures who have angered me and upset me to no end. Nearly everyone involved in the administration from January 2001-January 2009 fits into that category, and I'll never, ever forget all their lies, corruption and incompetence. But I did not hate them.

But this guy....this guy.....there is something about him.

There is something about how he lacks every single basic shred of human decency, his cruelty, his narcissism, his utter lack of shame in what appears to be an unending quest of self-glorification and self-enrichment. How he taunts and flaunts those aspects to the general public with every single proclamation and tweet. How he seeks to demonize and divide for no good reason at all.

Now, let me be absolutely, 100% perfectly and unequivocally clear: I would never, ever, ever wish for any sort of intentional, physical harm to come upon him. Never. First and foremost, the reasons I say that is because I will forever be a pacifist who does not believe in any of that. It will never be in my nature to want to see that happen. A secondary reason is that I would hate for him to become some sort of martyr for any sort of cause because that only serves to further aggrandize him.

But to be perfectly honest, he is 71 years old and does not appear to treat his body very well at this stage in life. And if a heart attack or a stroke or some sort of cancer were to afflict him--and I can't believe I am typing this but this just goes to show--fine. Not only would I not be sad, such an event would be the betterment for the country and world.

I always try to be the forever optimist in terms of redemption. And whenever I hear the news that someone who's lived a horrible life and done terrible things in his or her life, my thought always is that perhaps--just perhaps--in those dying breaths he or she realized all the mistakes they made in their life and all the people they've hurt, and expressed some sort of regret and remorse for their actions, and leave it up to whatever cosmic power that be whether he or she will ultimately be forgiven.

But for him, I just see him unable to come to those sorts of grips with who he is and unable to redeem himself or seek any sort of remorse or humility. Even to the very end.

I've heard stories about people who've lived under cruel autocracies and dictatorships where once their leader's rule is over, there's just this overwhelming sense of anger and betrayal and really rage that someone could come in and corrupt and mishandle their power over the people they are supposed to protect. And now I can really say I can understand how they feel.

And I can't stand myself for even thinking all this. I was not raised to hate anyone. I was not raised to think that the world is better off without someone than with someone. It's just not who I am. For nearly four decades on this earth, I have not hated a single soul.

But God help me. Literally.

I think I hate him.

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I hate him. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 OP
K & R!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #1
I hope he drops dead from a stroke every day... mreilly Jun 2017 #2
Karma requires one not to overtly wish harm but we can only take so much of the lumbering lecherous BSdetect Jun 2017 #3
I'm Catholic and if I go to hell... meow2u3 Jun 2017 #4
TC, I completely agree with Your words. furtheradu Jun 2017 #5
All of this! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #6
you expressed it perfectly. I HATE HIM niyad Jun 2017 #7
Fuck that guy. MrScorpio Jun 2017 #8
Redemption does not abide in him. lpbk2713 Jun 2017 #9
He's one of the most physically repulsive human being I've ever seen ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #10
 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
2. I hope he drops dead from a stroke every day...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jun 2017

... stroke, heart attack, brain embolism, cancer, you name it, if he keels over the first thing I do is get my hands on a bottle of scotch and the second thing is to share it with anyone willing to toast what I hope is his speedy and screaming descent straight into hell.

He is a rotten, childish, selfish, nose-thumbing, shit-slinging little asshole whose own behavior and personality will bring him down.

Like you, I would never wish or inflict harm upon him, but he if does himself in through his ever-ending tirades, tantrums and pants-wetting, all the better. That's called karma.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
3. Karma requires one not to overtly wish harm but we can only take so much of the lumbering lecherous
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jun 2017

lump of lard

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
4. I'm Catholic and if I go to hell...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jun 2017

...it'll be because of what I think of Trump. I utterly despise him, too--I don't think he's even human!

How can you be human when you have no sense of human decency, no sense of human compassion, and no sense of human kindness, to name a few? This man has zero redeeming qualities!

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
5. TC, I completely agree with Your words.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jun 2017

Every word. I never hated any one before. It's an ugly, overwhelming & exhausting feeling. It truly hurts my Spirit. I can't deny it, though.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. All of this!
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jun 2017

With a few exceptions. I KNOW I hate him. I do not feel guilty about it. I would be very happy if something awful happened to him that removed him from the face of the planet. (I know, we liberals are supposed to be pacifists and generally I am, but when it comes to people like Trump, McConnell, Ryan, etc., I really think the world would be much better without them in it.) However, I am not personally going to do anything to hurry this along.

I am just out of fucks to give. I hate this man with a passion and it enrages me that he even exists at all. What really worries me is that even if he is no longer president, we will have to be subjected to his miserable, constant media presence for the rest of his useless life.

Why is it that evil never dies? Look at Cheney. Look at all the fat, old republicans that should have been dead decades ago that are still kicking.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
9. Redemption does not abide in him.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:38 PM
Jun 2017



He is beyond reclamation. All we can do is hope for
him to leave the scene one way or another.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
10. He's one of the most physically repulsive human being I've ever seen
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

He's not exactly ugly. And what people generally consider ugly usually has its own charm. No. He exudes overindulgence like too-strong cologne, his face falls into petulant lines automatically. His voice has the sing-song overlay of the school yard bully in first or second grade, disgusting in a man who should be present himself as an elder statesman. He has no dignity, no charm, not when measured by usual metrics. I am unable to see what the RW sees--they like this man, love what he stands for.

But physically repulsiveness is just the beginning, and I think you've outlined much of what makes him abhorrent from the inside well.

It's like he's a deadly childhood cancer, or other, necrotizing diseases made sentient.

I am unable to hate, but I am able to abhor and shun. I think I would experience nausea if he came to my city---that's far too close.

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