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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:23 PM Jun 2017

It's Pretty Obvious Why Nancy Pelosi is Suddenly So Important


By Mark Lippman


After the special elections in Georgia and South Carolina, it’s time for the Republicans to panic. The explanation is simple. Two words. Speaker Pelosi.

Both House seats were deep in the red. The Montana and Kansas seats were, too. For Republicans, there can be no comfort in knowing that the Democrats didn’t flip any of the seats from red to blue. The trend to blue is undeniable and if it holds, or even if it weakens slightly, a slew of swing districts will move into the Democratic column in the midterm election.

A Democratic House majority would make Trump, or any other Republican, a lame Duck for the rest of his term. The idea of Paul Ryan handing the gavel back to Nancy Pelosi must be driving the Republicans to the edge. The Committee Chairs would pass to the Democrats as well.

That’s why you see a sudden outburst of emotion about Pelosi. She was always a favorite obsession of Right-wingers. Compare the legislation that the House passed by this date in 2009 with the current session. Pelosi gets the job done.

What the Republicans need is a compelling campaign theme for 2018. For now, at least, it seems like Pelosi’s age is it for them. It should be common sense that this isn’t a good look. It wasn’t four years ago and it isn’t now.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/23/1674522/-It-s-Pretty-Obvious-Why-Nancy-Pelosi-is-Suddenly-So-Important
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It's Pretty Obvious Why Nancy Pelosi is Suddenly So Important (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 OP
Republicans are struggling under Trump and Democrats are energized! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #1
Exactly, look at how the Repugnants had to spend millions in Georgia just for a House seat cstanleytech Jun 2017 #25
As if Trump trying to use reverse psychology weren't bad enough,,, bettyellen Jun 2017 #2
Yep! It is so obvious! I concur! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #3
Yeah. It's disgusting ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #11
Ambitious ones that want her job. Makes one wonder who they're working for? brush Jun 2017 #13
Well, we want someone willing to work with the great man and his blessed agenda dalton99a Jun 2017 #16
Anyone saying publicly that they are willing and ready to work with trump... brush Jun 2017 #19
What an opportunistic asshole. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #48
"tim ryan ready to work with trump".. No thanks Cha Jun 2017 #67
"Neville Chamberlain Ready to Work With Hitler"...... lastlib Jun 2017 #87
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #94
Now can we PLEASE TeapotInATempest Jun 2017 #4
Yep! This has been an useless distraction! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #6
Thank you! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #15
It can't be Clinton... NCTraveler Jun 2017 #5
Absolutley! blue-wave Jun 2017 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #8
Which "huge election" was that? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #18
Which "huge election" did we lose? And how is this Pelosi's fault? Hekate Jun 2017 #20
On other positions I might agree Lazy Daisy Jun 2017 #21
I agree, Pelosi GETS THE JOB DONE...that's what the rethugs are afraid of iluvtennis Jun 2017 #24
I Keep Reading This New Blood Meme Me. Jun 2017 #26
Fox and the RWNJ's agree with you.. stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #36
I like her "old" blood just fine. TexasProgresive Jun 2017 #38
LOL! on your 2 points!!! Me too! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #61
Speaker Pelosi is a yuuuge nightmare for the Republicans. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #9
lol "a god damn girl." tazkcmo Jun 2017 #56
I've been in the room with her, and she is awesome bright. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #58
LOL Cha Jun 2017 #74
K&R and Tweeted yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #10
Here is a link to a liberal that called Trump's win tiredtoo Jun 2017 #12
This is exactly it, but it's a shame there aren't more recs for it. joshcryer Jun 2017 #14
Spot On! blue-wave Jun 2017 #17
Extremely obvious! Kick and Rec n/t emulatorloo Jun 2017 #22
ding, ding, ding, ding....you got it iluvtennis Jun 2017 #23
Sorry to burst Nancy's bubble, but this is all BS. stevepal Jun 2017 #27
Amen HenryWallace Jun 2017 #29
Geesh! Woah just gonna give up? No way! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #62
Thank you for inserting REALITY into that Cha Jun 2017 #68
Yes Cha! No need to demoralize each other. If people in other countries go on- we in USA Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #70
Your quote: sheshe2 Jun 2017 #63
K&R betsuni Jun 2017 #28
If the dems win in 2018 the house in 2018 they need someone new to be the Speaker of the house. NJProgressive Jun 2017 #30
I disagree! Nancy gets the job done! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #31
But, but, but.....everyone who doesn't want Pelosi as our House leader are using the rationale.... George II Jun 2017 #32
Me thinks something else is going on! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #34
What does "corporatist Democrat" Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #33
Maybe no answer? Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #35
Oh! I see you asked the same thing. (Sorry. We're doubling-up here.) NurseJackie Jun 2017 #42
I keep seeing the phrase "corporatist democrat" ... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NurseJackie Jun 2017 #39
I keep asking this question and never get an answer. betsuni Jun 2017 #64
Apparently it doesn't apply to Tim Ryan.... Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #69
Your argument has been on the losing side, every single time. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #40
Yes they have. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #47
You're Kidding Right W/ Ryan Me. Jun 2017 #54
OK, how about Jackie Speier? Retrograde Jun 2017 #66
No. Nancy's doing a great job. All you have Cha Jun 2017 #71
Ryan is significantly to the right of her BainsBane Jun 2017 #90
Remember the "Concerned Clinton Critics?" Now it's the "Pelosi Grinders" trying to wear us down. NBachers Jun 2017 #37
Thanks for sharing awesome letter! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #91
Pelosi has to go scuciti Jun 2017 #41
I disagree w/u. I & many like Pelosi, she is a threat! because she gets things done! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #43
Donald needs Pelosi to go bad! Before 2018! He cannot afford her to be around. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #45
What is this? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #60
Good points, all of them. Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #82
I just don't get it, Thinkingabout and never will. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #83
sheshe2 a lot we are seeing is just plain bad faith! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #92
No, Nancy does NOT have to go. Just because you say Cha Jun 2017 #72
coordinated posts??? JCinNYC Jun 2017 #93
A low-post-count'er who joined to agree with another low-post-count'er; both critical of our Nancy. NBachers Jun 2017 #98
Curious how newbies coming out to just pile on Pelosi! Interesting, hmmmmm Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #44
The site has been absolutely flooded today BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #50
Yep! yep! yep! Pelosi must be a MEGA THREAT! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #52
There is a subset of Obama haters too. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #59
The Swarm Me. Jun 2017 #51
Scared much? But they give themselves away, non? Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #53
Mais Qui Me. Jun 2017 #55
Yeah it's been awhile BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #57
And, very.. Cha Jun 2017 #73
and bad actors. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #75
Makes me wonder how much Putin pays for this service Generic Brad Jun 2017 #97
Make sure Pelosi doesn't fly on a plane that's been tampered with. onecent Jun 2017 #46
Donald cannot afford Pelosi around! Needs her out before 2018. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #49
Pelosi's age is an issue? McTurtle is a fossil in comparison RainCaster Jun 2017 #65
let's not forget the obvious DonCoquixote Jun 2017 #76
aided obviously from the useful idiot dudebro left... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #77
FYI.. Cha Jun 2017 #78
Yay Cha!! That is great news! and Mr. Daou is right! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #80
Yeah, stop acting like Cha Jun 2017 #84
they, the (rs) have been trying to get rid of nancy for years . AllaN01Bear Jun 2017 #79
I stand with the lady that partied with JFK... Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #81
Oh Lovely photo! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #85
Indeed!! Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #86
She almost looks a bit like Audrey Hepburn in that photo. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #95
Spot on! volstork Jun 2017 #88
trump and the GOP hate and fear Nancy Pelosi Gothmog Jun 2017 #89
They should... Blue Idaho Jun 2017 #96

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
25. Exactly, look at how the Repugnants had to spend millions in Georgia just for a House seat
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jun 2017

that a few years ago they would have won in a landslide but this time they barely won and this weakening is entirely self inflicted.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. As if Trump trying to use reverse psychology weren't bad enough,,,
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jun 2017

We have liberals buying into this crap too.

brush

(53,778 posts)
19. Anyone saying publicly that they are willing and ready to work with trump...
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jun 2017

and is actively undermined Nancy Pelosi warrants great scrutiny.

These kind of Dems we don't need.

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
4. Now can we PLEASE
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jun 2017

stop helping them by joining them in calling for her to step down?? Do we really need to do their jobs for them?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. It can't be Clinton...
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:37 PM
Jun 2017

So it's going to be Pelosi. There will be many on the left who will help Republicans along the way.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
7. Absolutley!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:56 PM
Jun 2017

They are attacking her because they are soooo afraid of her. She is an extremely talented and effective leader. They are beating the hate drum against her because they will all s*#t in their pants if we win big in 2018.

Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
21. On other positions I might agree
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jun 2017

Nancy Pelosi gets the job done. I don't agree with some of her positions, but she's not my representative. As far as having her in the drivers seat, we should all be 100% behind her. She's one of the few "old guard" we need to keep around for as long as she's able.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. I Keep Reading This New Blood Meme
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:49 PM
Jun 2017

The drumbeat has been started. But who, exactly, are all the 'new blooders' talking about. Names please.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
38. I like her "old" blood just fine.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:55 PM
Jun 2017

On edit: I was going to say BuhBy, but I thought I would be nice. Ah it was so nice to know you.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. Speaker Pelosi is a yuuuge nightmare for the Republicans.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jun 2017

Not only is she way smarter than anyone they have, she is "a god damn girl." They really, really hate smart women, who should be applying their smarts to baking pies, etc.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
56. lol "a god damn girl."
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jun 2017

Normally, I don't consider a person's gender to be a reason to consider or dismiss them but in this case, being "a god damn girl." is a YUGE bonus precisely because it bothers those knuckle draggers on the Wrong.

As another poster said, she's not my rep and I don't always agree with her (Or anybody else for that matter) but she's world class at what she does and I am glad to be on her side.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
58. I've been in the room with her, and she is awesome bright.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jun 2017

No script needed, she is brilliant off the cuff.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
14. This is exactly it, but it's a shame there aren't more recs for it.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jun 2017

This is the modus oprendi of the ratfucking right wing. The are trying to pull a wedge, choose deep red seats that were nigh impossible to flip (especially in special elections), which closed the gap by a huge percentage.

But for Democrats it's not good enough, it's either win or be eradicated.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
17. Spot On!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:19 PM
Jun 2017

The old divide and conquer trick. We should be beating up on the right wing instead of our own. Any news today on what those rats are doing to destroy our country?

 

stevepal

(109 posts)
27. Sorry to burst Nancy's bubble, but this is all BS.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jun 2017

Until the Dems address and do something about the underlying problem (rigged voting machines and voter suppression), they shouldn't expect anything to change. There'll be a few races that Dems will be allowed to win but overall nothing significant will change at all. We do not now have and haven't had for well over a decade now any trace of a democracy. It's no longer on life support. It's dead and buried. Get used to it.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
62. Geesh! Woah just gonna give up? No way!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jun 2017

Read yesterday that 1st thing Pelosi gonna do in 2018 is introduce two voting rights bills:

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, while calling on her GOP colleagues to make it a bipartisan measure, said the bill "will be introduced on the very first day" Democrats regain control of the House in 2018.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/house-democrats-looking-ahead-2018-pledge-prioritize-voting-rights-n775766




stsevepal
27. Sorry to burst Nancy's bubble, but this is all BS.

Until the Dems address and do something about the underlying problem (rigged voting machines and voter suppression), they shouldn't expect anything to change. There'll be a few races that Dems will be allowed to win but overall nothing significant will change at all. We do not now have and haven't had for well over a decade now any trace of a democracy. It's no longer on life support. It's dead and buried. Get used to it.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
70. Yes Cha! No need to demoralize each other. If people in other countries go on- we in USA
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jun 2017

have no excuse!

We are all here in USA and in this world because our ancestors did not give up!

sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
63. Your quote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jun 2017

"We do not now have and haven't had for well over a decade now any trace of a democracy. It's no longer on life support. It's dead and buried."

So in as sentence you blew off Obama's 8 years? Sure we had unprecedented GOP obstruction, yet he still got a lot done and we were highly respected around the world.

NJProgressive

(6 posts)
30. If the dems win in 2018 the house in 2018 they need someone new to be the Speaker of the house.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017

If the democrats win the house in 2018 they need someone new to be the speaker of the house. Nancy Pelosi already had her chance and she's too much of a corporatist democrat. The Democratic Party needs to move to the progressive wing. People are tired of establishment politics. I'd say someone like Elijah Cummings or Tim Ryan would be a good speaker of the house. They both have many progressive creditals.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. But, but, but.....everyone who doesn't want Pelosi as our House leader are using the rationale....
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jun 2017

...that we're LOSING because of her! So with that rationale, how can we possibly "win the house in 2018"?

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
33. What does "corporatist Democrat"
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jun 2017

even mean, and how is it that Nancy Pelosi et al. get stuck with the "establishment" label while certain other prominent left-wing figures don't? I also don't get how she is much different from Cummings or Ryan in terms of her platform.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. Oh! I see you asked the same thing. (Sorry. We're doubling-up here.)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jun 2017

But it's good to know that I'm not the only one who has questions about what this term means, and how it applies to Nancy Pelosi.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
39. I keep seeing the phrase "corporatist democrat" ... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:58 PM
Jun 2017

And how does it apply to Pelosi?

betsuni

(25,531 posts)
64. I keep asking this question and never get an answer.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jun 2017

Somebody look it up in The True Progressives Dictionary and tell us, dammit!

Docreed2003

(16,859 posts)
69. Apparently it doesn't apply to Tim Ryan....
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jun 2017

Who's been an outspoken critic of universal healthcare.. but he apparently is a "real progressive"..SMDH at some of this nonsense

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
66. OK, how about Jackie Speier?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jun 2017

Representative from CA-14 (which I miss being in by a mile or so). Relatively new as a representative, but long experience in many areas of federal, state and local government, starting out as an aide to Congressman Leon Ryan (she was shot and seriously wounded at Jonestown). The GOP will hate her, of course, and not just because her district includes part of San Francisco.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
71. No. Nancy's doing a great job. All you have
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:38 PM
Jun 2017

are buzzwords meant to insult.

Tim Ryan tries to normalize trump.. he's out, afaic.

"Tim Ryan: Ready to work with Trump"

http://www.wfmj.com/story/33670138/tim-ryan-ready-to-work-with-trump

I'm betting Elijah Cummings knows Nancy is the best one for the job. Unlike all of those who don't have a clue.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
90. Ryan is significantly to the right of her
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 01:48 AM
Jun 2017

He won't even denounce the Trumpcare bill. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
37. Remember the "Concerned Clinton Critics?" Now it's the "Pelosi Grinders" trying to wear us down.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jun 2017

Sorry, chumps- it ain't working this time. We've been down this road before. Climb back into your rat-infested republican coffin and close the lid.

My fax & email to Representative Nancy Pelosi, who represents me:

Dear Madame Pelosi:

I am a loyal voting San Francisco Democrat and I live in your district. I support you, and I'm actively engaged in resisting the "Time for Pelosi to Step Down" critics. I refuse to let this republican propaganda be left unanswered.

I am proud to have you as my Representative in the House, and I will continue to support and vote for you. I've been politically involved for a long time, and you are one of the most effective Leaders I've seen.

Please continue, and know that we stand with you.

Sincerely, NBachers

https://pelosi.house.gov/contact-me/email-me
: U.S. House of Representatives, 235 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 205150001
ph: (202) 225-4965
fax: (202) 225-8259

90 7th Street, Suite 2-800, San Francisco, CA 94103
ph: (415) 556-4862

sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
60. What is this?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jun 2017

Find a Strong Democratic woman a day and try to malign and disrespect them. Hmmm...first Hillary, DWS, Harris, Warren, Yates, Waters...now Pelosi. You have to ask the question...Why do they fear us? I know the answer...pretty sure they do to.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
98. A low-post-count'er who joined to agree with another low-post-count'er; both critical of our Nancy.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Jun 2017

It ain't workin' this time, dudes.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
52. Yep! yep! yep! Pelosi must be a MEGA THREAT!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:29 PM
Jun 2017

Good to know how they are thnking as they give themselves away!

BumRushDaShow

(129,013 posts)
59. There is a subset of Obama haters too.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jun 2017

The strategy is to boldly post the bullshit and draw in "regular" DUers who might agree, in order to stoke a fervor and drive up the threads and narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch are from JPR coming to infest DU.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
97. Makes me wonder how much Putin pays for this service
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

Whatever short term gain is made by pushing an agenda favored by Russia, the damage it inflicts guarantees that those promoting that agenda will be hurt in the long term.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
46. Make sure Pelosi doesn't fly on a plane that's been tampered with.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jun 2017

Leave Pelosi alone so she can do her job.

RainCaster

(10,876 posts)
65. Pelosi's age is an issue? McTurtle is a fossil in comparison
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jun 2017

How could the GOP try to tell the country that Nancy Pelosi is too old for the job when their current leader is long overdue for his crypt??? I just don't see how they can float that turd.

Of course, they did successfully convince a non-majority of America that the Cheeto Tweeter held the moral high ground with 3 divorces, six bankruptcies and 6,000+ lawsuits.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
76. let's not forget the obvious
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jun 2017

If she gets replaced with a white male, then many of the sexists at the GOP and HERE will say "see, woman jujst ain'tm competent"

AllaN01Bear

(18,227 posts)
79. they, the (rs) have been trying to get rid of nancy for years .
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 08:52 PM
Jun 2017

i am in a sea of red and red ish ( there are islands of us blue and we have to find them) folk who constantly parrot right wing radio, tv, and newspapers . and least we forget they only watch faux news. ive heard get rind of pelosi , get rid of pelosi. they, the (rs)still havent gotten rid of her , who is still in there punching for us. you go girl.



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Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
96. They should...
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jun 2017

She has been the most effective Speaker of the House since Tip O'Neil. She knows how to make the government work for its citizens. No wonder they start these whispering campaigns...

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