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[Grassy Knoll]

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[njhoneybadger]

1. Did Jill Stein take any dark money from Russia?

[Grassy Knoll]

2. No Proof, But I Don't Doubt It...

[njhoneybadger]

4. I'm thinking she did.

And her voter recount was a slick diversion.

[pnwmom]

6. Her voter recount was also a way to raise millions for her party.

She got to keep everything that she didn't use -- which was millions because recounts weren't completed in two of the states.

[Hoyt]

3. Interesting thought.

[customerserviceguy]

5. There are a number of things

that made the election come out as it did. Remove one or maybe two of them, and the result is different. It's folly to blame any one of many reasons for what happened.

I remember travelling through rural northeastern Pennsylvania the weekend before the election. We were driving to the wedding of the son of close friends, and we went from Bethlehem, PA, where our room was, to the wedding site at Blue Mountain, at a ski resort that rented out its grounds and catering facilities for events. We passed through town after town, where people displayed Trump/Pence signs on their front lawns, in full view of both their neighbors and the tourists passing through. We saw only one Hillary/Kaine sign, right in a town, and several Johnson signs. We had a strange sense of foreboding as we made that trip, and it came to fruition the following Tuesday.

While some can argue that Stein and Johnson "stole" votes from Hillary, I have to conclude that those votes were for "none of the above" and would have gone to any third-party candidate available on the ballot if neither of them had been there.

Russian hacking had an influence, too, but only because Hillary had been so severely damaged by decades of allegations that led to heavy mistrust among the lightly informed.

Our goal is to make sure that 2016 is not repeated in 2020.

[JI7]

7. and most of the republican party which is ok with what Putin did

they think black people voting is worse than russian hacking into our elections.

in fact they are happy the russians got involved to stop democrats.

if we had people who actually cared we could make them less influential as France did.

[mia]

8. The Republicans would like for us to blame "The Russians".

In reality, it is they, and the businesses who support them, who are undermining the citizens of the United States. It's all about increasing their wealth, while they wave flags and pretend to love Jesus. I don't trust anyone who votes Republican. They are either mis-informed or evil.

[Cha]

10. It's both of them.. of course the gop was in on

letting them get away with it.

[Cha]

9. stein is a pawn for putin.. all the RFs own a big chunk of trump...

Lena https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9250094

But did GJ Lie like stein? Say that Hillary was worse than trump.. not to vote for her even in swing states?

Was Johnson such a poor candidate that he had to sucker and brainwash with LIES like stein?