Double-talking Tim Ryan viciously bashes his party & mentor Pelosi now he's being exposed

[pirateshipdude]

During his interview with CNN, Tim Ryan also decided to lambaste his former mentor Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who has been one of the strongest, most persistent, resilient and relentless forces against Donald Trump, his cronies and the self-serving GOP. Tim Ryan may be able to justify his sour grapes for Pelosi even though when he arrived in Washington, she hooked him up with a slot on the House Democratic Steering Committee which he used to advance his career. But now she’s hurt his feelings. She crushed him in last November’s internal Democratic Party House Leader bid.

When Don Lemon asked Tim Ryan if he thought Pelosi was more toxic than Trump, Ryan actually said yes.

“The honest answer (opposed to when he’s giving a dishonest answer) is, in some areas of the country, yes, she is.”

Given her integrity and the great respect Pelosi has earned from her colleagues over years in office, Ryan’s statement couldn’t have been more repulsive. For Ryan to even compare Leader Pelosi to a lying, scamming, hateful, tax-evading thug and sexual predator like Trump—is incredulous. And then to say she’s more toxic than Trump, on any level, is outrageous, especially coming from a Democratic lawmaker. You see, Tim Ryan thinks he could do a better job than Pelosi even though Republicans have the majority in the House, Senate, Oval Office and now Supreme Court. Ryan seems to think he has the magic answer when in reality—no Democratic leader has a fair shot under current circumstances.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/24/1674719/-Double-talking-Tim-Ryan-viciously-bashes-his-party-mentor-Nancy-Pelosi-now-he-s-being-exposed?Salzillo

[mcar]

1. And there actually are people who think he'd be a better leader

SMH.

[Cha]

100. Tim Ryan squirming today is funny.

Link to tweet

[Wounded Bear]

2. If he wants to be leader, he needs to work on his leadership skills...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Leaders prove they are team players first. Tim Ryan is failing badly. . . . . nt

[Wounded Bear]

26. Cannot disagree...

but you point out a failing of many Repubs, too, especially Trump.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. As a team, Democrats are still much better than the Republicons. 6 years, 60 votes & they still cant

Six years, 60 votes, and they still can't agree on and pass a coherent health care bill. That's not even considering trying to pass a health care bill that the public will like.

tRump has a team of three: he, himself, and him.

The tRump gang is not much of a team. They are so clueless about governing that Ivanka despairs about the nastiness in Washington and Jared thinks he can solve the 2,500 year old MidEast conundrum by showing up in preppy clothing. They are so amateurish and arrogant they don't even ask for advice from previous Secretaries of State like Kerry and Hillary did.

Steve Bannon is a tool of the Mercers and beholden to his own racist fantasies about minimal government. He thinks he can tear it down from within and rebuild it as pre-Theodore-Roosevelt robber baron white capitalist paradise. He does have some help from the cabinet.

Republican Trump does not have any Republicons on his team. The Party is more & more abandoning him.

Reince Priebus is the only professional there and therefore is the one who says the least. He is there to cover the Republicon Party's collusion from within the WH so that he can cover his ass. He's the most team player inside and outside the WH of all the Republicons.

Ryan can't control his caucus. He's no good as a coach or as a captain or at inspiring. His caucus are running around like mice with their tails chopped off. FOUR CLOSE SHAVES in special elections have got them scared shitless about 2018.

McCONnell has more than Ryan at stake in the Russia collusion treason and coverup. So he's not much of a team player.

[pirateshipdude]

44. They had to cheat their way to a win with gerrymandering, voter suppression,

Russian pay outs and are not held to the same accountability as the Democratic Party.

Good points.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. Your points are good too. thx. . . . nt

[Alice11111]

74. That's HOW they win, since 2000. They do about 20

things, not just 2 or 3, that shave .5pc to 1 or 2pc off everywhere and everything possible. That is their strategy, together with having a simple logos. They fire up the base with lies of hate and fear, plus pull in some racists & stir up Islamophobia.

Voila=formula for Repub winning

The question is at what point are we going to have the equivalent of a missile defense system to bust them up before they take hold.
We also, of course, need a strong message ourselves, a good offensive strategy.

It's all pretty obvious. Not brain surgery.

[pirateshipdude]

80. I agree with all you are saying. I think we have a strong message and

I think the majority of the nation agrees with it and hears it. Even with Clinton losing, he took all that and more to beat her and still she had 3 million more. Her message was heard. Further, she was also going against someone that had no rules he had to follow and she proceeded the two term Democratic president. Unprecedented to win, yet it took all that to beat her.

[Alice11111]

107. Yes, cheating in every way &lying & discrediting Hillary,

which has been one of their favorite games for nearly 30 years.

[pirateshipdude]

111. Yes. Eom

[smirkymonkey]

3. Fuck him!

Why doesn't he just switch parties while he's at it?

[OhNo-Really]

39. tapes?

Ok, I watched House of Cards.

Politics is a nasty game for the truly tough.

This nitwit best be pristine if he dares assault a seasoned pro.

[bitterross]

4. Very bad form. Total lack of respect.

One doesn't go on national TV and trash talk a competent leader of the minority. That is beyond rude and selfish.

[MBS]

28. I agree completely.

He's completely lost me.
Sometimes my party drives me NUTS.
Here it is, at a time so vital to send a powerful, united message, not only to win back Congress and to remove Trump from office (or at least to diminish his power), but also - yes, it's this important - to save our democracy.

But, no, the same internecine @#$%.
Come on, Dems: get it together for once.

[bitterross]

50. I know. I don't expect total GOP-like unquestioning obedience.

Sure, there ARE times when the leadership should be questioned. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz was a great example of incompetent leadership. Pelosi is not.

The statistical progress we've made in solid red districts is phenomenal.

[MBS]

54. + 1000.

I agree with all of this, too.

[tazkcmo]

101. Agree about Pelosi/DWS

Polar opposites those two. Just wanted to add that when you do feel the need to question your leadership, the best way not to is publicly and thus this idiot exposes his incompetence.

[tblue37]

33. The House Dem leadership should at least give him a (somewhat threatening)

talking to. Probably they should punish him--move him to an insignificant position on an obscure committee. Maybe not fund his next campaign. Maybe find a chgallenger for his seat.

[ehrnst]

5. Can't imagine what he thinks he will gain trashing the Democrats.

Perhaps he's thinking of becoming an independent?

[George II]

12. He has certainly lost a lot in the Democratic caucus with words like that. He and that....

...."rookie" Rice from New York. She's been in Congress for two years yet she thinks she knows more than Nancy Pelosi?

[Control-Z]

49. Is this Rice woman the one with long brown hair

who they played over and over last week singing Pelosi's praises after which she concludes it's time for her to go, past her shelf life?

[George II]

57. Yes, Kathleen Rice, a congresswoman from Long Island. I didn't see her singing Pelosi's praises....

...but saw her over and over again claiming that Pelosi should be replaced. This from a 2-year member of the House.

[Me.]

7. A Walking Case Of Jackassery

Isn't there a better D who can run in his district? Betcha he would then ask Nancy P. to help fundraise for him.

[pirateshipdude]

8. +1. Eom

[George II]

9. I saw that interview the other night when it took place, it was sickening.

[trueblue2007]

10. He is a BAD MAN. This made me cry.

[Glimmer of Hope]

11. Ugh. Sometimes I would see him at a meditation group I used to go to.

More Dharma talks for you Mr. Ryan. You need to practice what you preach.

[Hekate]

13. I never even heard of that bozo before last week, when certain DUers began chanting his name...

...as the Next Big Hope because (whisper, mumble, he's a white male).

The more I see of him, the worse he looks for us.

Thanks for posting this from Daily Kos.

[pirateshipdude]

15. I didn't know about Ryan either. I love that they put out what Pelosi has accomplished.

You are welcome.

[Cha]

75. I knew of him when

he challenged Nancy for the minority leadership and lost.

House Democrats Re-Elect Nancy Pelosi As Minority Leader

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/30/503902535/house-democrats-re-elect-nancy-pelosi-as-minority-leader

[Hekate]

77. Sore loser, eh?

And a turd.

[Cha]

79. Yeah, he sounds real

sour grapish.

[pirateshipdude]

82. We seem to have a handful of sore losers, lol. Eom.

[pirateshipdude]

81. I heard dibbles only because Pelosi had a slam dunk, so I did not invest time and effort. Eom

[Cha]

93. Tim Ryan apologizes for using word 'dago' in TV interview

Link to tweet

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/rep_tim_ryan_apologizes_for_us.html

Just saw this..

[Hekate]

98. Good Lord

[Greybnk48]

14. If this is true, he's not just a Dino, he's a quisling.

He's a Republican who's infiltrated the Democratic party to destroy from within.

[kentuck]

16. It looks like trouble ahead.

A good number of Democrats are supporting Ryan.

[Greybnk48]

25. I'm at a loss too.

Why would our party fracture now, of all times. The R's are vulnerable because their crazy is showing. We did not lose the election, it was rigged. That seems to be a given now. Our numbers are strong in these run-offs, but the DSCC doesn't seem to know shit from shinola (wtf).

These Dems like Ryan, that want to take over, seem too far to the right. I will admit I have not researched this guy or his followers, but we should not be attacking each other. Especially not until this whole political and criminal mess in the Republican Party is settled and we see what rectifications are made, if any.

[bettyellen]

30. I think there's a troll attack amplifying this nonsense. He's got no bonafides.

[Cha]

94. Rep. Tim Ryan apologizes for using word 'dago' in TV interview

Link to tweet

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/rep_tim_ryan_apologizes_for_us.html

[bettyellen]

95. What a fucking idiot. Oh lord. I follow Al also, but missed that so thank you my

dear friend! Mahalo Cha!

[Cha]

97. Ciao, Bella!

[NastyRiffraff]

17. Why does he call himself a Democrat?

It's not only Nancy Pelosi he's targeting, it's the Democratic Party. I don't know what his agenda is (destroy the party, get attention, raise $$?) but he certainly has one, and it's toxic.

[kentuck]

18. He should leave and take half the Party with him?

That would be the best thing he could do. Right?

[NastyRiffraff]

19. He's ALREADY doing that

or trying to. I think most of the party has more sense than to listen to this asshole.

[pirateshipdude]

20. Here is the thing. I was thinking this morning the conversation bringing knife to a gun fight.

What are Democrats suppose to do? There is unprecedented lying, cheating, stealing, not following laws and rules.

Democrats cannot get away with this. We cannot get away with anything. This is how the Republicans and media has set up our world.

Not only are the Republicans allowed to behave like this, we see certain Democrats allowed when attacking the Democratic base.

So, when you say " He should leave and take half the Party with him?", I think, no. We should demand he have to walk the line of honesty to, along with the rest of the party. Pelosi, Obama, DWS, Lewis, Booker, Harris and so many more Democrats would be fried by Democrats if they behaved this way.

[Me.]

21. Ahem, He & Krystal Ball Have Already Started To Do THat

The so-called People's Project and half the party is beyond anything they could dream of, he and his 12 fellow conspirators, meeting secretly in Rice's office.

[blue-wave]

22. Half the Party?

Hardly think so, but if so they were never democrats in the first place. This anti-Pelosi, anti-Obama, anti-Hillary and oh yeah, anti-Bernie stuff in our party must stop. We need to be united now more than ever. Our adversaries understand this political reality. It's time to stop the divisive madness.

[MBS]

29. My thoughts as well.n/t

[kentuck]

32. It may be surprising, but some Democrats thought she should have left when Harry Reid left?

Of course, they only measure success by the number of House and Senate seats lost or gained, I suppose?

If Democrats do not take back the House in 2018, then I would agree with those that say it is time for her to step down. This is not a good time to be fighting divisive battles. She has been a great Speaker and Leader.

But in 2018, it may be time for the Party to go in a new direction? I'm not sure this is the best time to fight about it. There are bigger battles to fight, in my opinion.

Somebody has to fight for this country. It is going down the crapper rapidly.

[pirateshipdude]

36. I do not agree with the "new" direction nor do the majority of Democrats.

We see it over and over in our elections. So, for a small group demand that we go a new direction when we see our direction more effective, progressive and viable, it simply is not going to work. Right? This does not make sense to me to demand a new direction when the base is saying we do not agree with them.

We try to compromise. We try to work with the other group, repeatedly. That seems to be hurting us. So what would be the answer from this point?

[kentuck]

46. You are entitled to your opinion.

You are not entitled to have everyone agree with it.

I would agree that now is not the time to fight this battle.

Who is the Party going to support when Bernie Sanders chooses Tim Ryan as his running mate in 2020? We don't know what is going to happen?

[pirateshipdude]

48. I never suggested "everyone" was suppose to agree with me. Eom

[kentuck]

53. You just better hope there is not a tape, buster.

[pirateshipdude]

59. Saying the majority opposes is factual. Eom

[kentuck]

63. I haven't seen any recent polls but that is probably correct.

The Democratic Party is very fond of Nancy Pelosi.

[pirateshipdude]

64. We can look at the elections and see the results. Eom

[kentuck]

70. Which results are you talking about?

???

[LanternWaste]

117. What specific direction would that be?

"time for the Party to go in a new direction?:

What specific direction would that be; on what is that direction measured, and what new concepts/templates/platforms would be in place that are not already?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

23. He's an asshole and I wish he'd leave Ohio. n/t

[hedda_foil]

24. The real question about Tim Ryan is who's paying him?

[mikeyDE]

27. Jim Trafficant's district

Does he see prison and the Tea Party in his future?

[Mr.Bill]

31. The DNC needs to

not give him any funds for his next campaign. Let him finance it with bake sales.

Find someone to primary him, and give them the funding. Show him how team politics works.

[Alice11111]

108. "That'll be the day," Buddy Holly

[Steven Maurer]

34. Ryan: The Conserva-dem version of Sanders

• Attacking the moral integrity of the Democratic party/DNC? Check.

• Proposes throwing critical members of the Democratic coalition under the bus? Check.

• Over the top rhetoric? Check.

• Holding Democrats to impossible popularity standards so as to declare us all a "failure"? Check.

• Threatens to split the party and/or throw the election to the GOP if he doesn't get his way? Check.


At least Sanders had a consistent message - even if it is one that the public rejected.

[nikibatts]

35. We know how to work around people like Tim Ryan. Our party, because it so inclusive, has always had

to contend with people like Tim Ryan and others. We get knocked down but we get back up. An no matter who is in control at the top of government (it's always better if we are in control better for country, that is) we continue to make a difference within the communities where we live and work. We just can't give and we shouldn't give in. It's the fight that SHOULD keep us together. After we win and are on top again we can take the time to clean our house of those who would do us harm.

[kentuck]

37. Republicans are very good at calling names and attempting to brand their opponents.

It usually takes them a few years but they are elephants. They have long memories.

[pirateshipdude]

38. +1. Good post. Thank-you. Eom

[crazycatlady]

40. I will admit I haven't followed this much

However, if we are going to take back the House, we need people like him and districts like his.

Pelosi, while effective and good at her job, is poison to swing voters. This week proved it. She also represents one of the most liberal districts in the country and arguably the most liberal city in the country. San Francisco is lovely to visit (went in 2003) but like any other city, has it's problems. Fair or not, the city represents overpriced real estate, the tech industry taking over the world, and LGBT rights. Someone in GA-06 might not identify with any of that and doesn't see it as 'American."

IMO Ryan's message is part of a 50 state strategy. Someone in KS, MT, GA, or SC will probably relate to a guy like him more than Pelosi. The lesson of 2016 is that we can't write off 'flyover country."

[pirateshipdude]

47. We need someone to beat up Democrats and lie about them, their productiveness and

their effectiveness in her position she sits?

[crazycatlady]

51. That is not what I'm trying to say

What I'm trying to get at is that we need people like Tim Ryan and the district he represents in order to be competitive at the national level.

Yes NYC, LA, SF, Philly, etc have a lot of population, but it is not enough just to win in big cities. This is what a 50 state strategy is all about.

[pirateshipdude]

58. That is a whole other discussion though. We are talking about Democrats purposely being destruction

to our party.

[kentuck]

55. People act as if they are "threatened" if another Democrat disagrees?

What are they afraid of? What would a Democrat like Ryan do that would cause so much damage? I don't think anyone is trying to subtract from the Party, but rather add to it.

[crazycatlady]

56. this

I've traveled all over the country for campaigns (9 states). What works in one does not necessarily work in another.

If we are going to be a big tent party we must embrace our differences, and yes running Blue Dogs in appropriate districts is part of that.

[pirateshipdude]

60. We are discussing a deliberate trashing. That is not the same as disagreeing. Eom.

[kentuck]

62. I guess it depends on what the meaning of "trashing" is??

To say that she was "toxic" in some places is probably true? But, Republicans do that to all strong Democrats when they have years to "brand" them. With FOX News and Talk Radio, they are very effective. It doesn't mean she hasn't done a good job. Just like Hillary was branded after many years. She may as well have been the Devil. That's the way the opposition works.

[pirateshipdude]

65. Pelosi was more toxic than Trump, Ryan actually said yes.

the answer would be, of course not.

Given her integrity and the great respect Pelosi has earned from her colleagues over years in office, Ryan’s statement couldn’t have been more repulsive. For Ryan to even compare Leader Pelosi to a lying, scamming, hateful, tax-evading thug and sexual predator like Trump—is incredulous.

Pretty Incredulous.

[kentuck]

72. No. The answer would not be "Of course not" to many Democrats in many districts ...

...across this nation. There were districts where Donald Trump was much more popular than Nancy Pelosi, I would bet. It's not comparing Nancy to Trump in the personal manner that you state. It's saying that she is "toxic" in a political sense in some districts across this nation. The GOP has worked hard to make her toxic. That is no surprise. She has been branded by her opponents in the GOP and the Democrats have been unable to prevent it. That is the reality that many Democrats see.

[pirateshipdude]

83. Well, I totally disagree that any district but GOP red feels Pelosi is as bad or worse, than Trump.

[JCanete]

61. I don't know Ryan that well, but it seems from his rhetoric that he's just capitalizing on

Democratic disaffection. I say that because he's not actually getting to the root of the problem. He's trying to tac our message to an "economic" one, which really can be boiled down to saying "jobs, jobs, jobs..." He seems disinterested in talking about issues of campaign finance or voter suppression, or corporate greed, and given the opportunity, he backed away from Sanders style messaging in favor of something far more milquetoast . From my limited exposure(please correct me if I'm off here), he seems to want us to wear our diversity less on our sleeve, and sell an establishment message of standard governance around the policies of job creation.

The problem is he wants to still be an insider. He wants to try to sell people who do not trust the government, and at least somewhat for good reason, that this minor shake-up will amount to actual change. We need leaders who call the system broken. We don't need the ones who pretend its a simple matter of shifting our focus that will solve things.We need a populist message that breaks through the standard allegiances...one that gives people across the spectrum of the bottom 99 percent, common cause. We need a common boogie man, and Democrats continue to refuse to brand corporate influence that boogieman.

All that said, I agree, demanding that our politicians walk in lock-step and never criticize or state hard truths(or at least their version of it) is silly, and it is frankly, not a winning strategy. We aren't working with the same voter base that republicans are working with. That will never fly with us.

[LovingA2andMI]

69. They Are Threatened...

As If Folks Cannot Have A Different Point of View Than Their Own --- and be a Democrat. Interesting fall out from the era of Trump.

[pirateshipdude]

84. Defining the conversation? Again, no threat, but a problem with trashing, not disagreeing. Eom

[LovingA2andMI]

86. Isn't disagreeing a form of Trashing in most cases....

So again, if folks disagree, it seems some folks believe they cannot be a Democrat -- which is TOTALLY not true at all.

[pirateshipdude]

87. No. Two separate animals. Maybe that is the issue.

Maybe it is so foreign in our culture today, where we disagree an idea and not resort to the worst of who we are.

[LovingA2andMI]

88. Actually, it's...

And we will agree to strongly disagree here.

[pirateshipdude]

89. He said she was as bad if not worse than Trump. It factually is wrong in the dishonest,

disrespectful and everything of who Trump is.

[andym]

67. The error in his thinking is that any Democratic leader will remain popular under GOP attack. NT.

[delisen]

102. In Atlanta we don't think of ourselves as flyover country. We

actually might like to have those tech problems San Francisco has. Ga-05 does not have much problem with LGBT.

Overpriced real estate is traditionally how Ga-6 makes money.

My guess is that Youngstown, Ohio would really like some of these problems that bring in money.

Youngstown started it depression in the 1960. I remember a group from there called Self-Management in the Workplace wrapped up in industrial issues. I visited in the late 80's and did not see much economic improvement.

Maybe they should do a sister city project with Atlanta or San Francisco.

Maybe you should visit Ga-6 and 5--both booming.

[AllaN01Bear]

41. should leave the party and that includes all "bluedog" dems.

[wryter2000]

42. Can we ignore him now?

How many of these types will continue to fool some of us?

[MineralMan]

52. Tim Ryan had better start thinking about 2018.

He might find himself in trouble with his constituency if he doesn't.

[NurseJackie]

66. Jesus! This is SO "House of Cards" He's disloyal. His comments hurt and divide and weaken our party.

[AJT]

68. Anyone hear the Bill Press show Friday? A guest who writes for

the Rolling Stone was on and said he ran into Tim Ryan one night at a bar and he was coked up. Did anyone catch the name of the Rolling Stone writer?

[pirateshipdude]

85. Hm. Eom.

[Trial_By_Fire]

71. He is a Democrat so it's ok...

[andym]

73. The error in his thinking is that any Democratic congressional leader would remain popular

under relentless GOP attack. Rep Pelosi does have an awful favorability nationally (28.6% in the latest aggregate of poll http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/nancy-pelosi-favorable-rating), but Senate Minority Leader Senator Reid also had even more atrocious polling (23%). In fact, Check Schumer has a only a 26% national favorability rating-- the difference is that his unfavorability number is only 36% compared to Pelosi's of 49%. The longer a politician remains a congressional leader, the more the impact of GOP attacks. Basically having unpopular leaders is the rule rather the exception.

[kentuck]

76. This is the way the GOP plays the game.

"The longer a politician remains a congressional leader, the more the impact of GOP attacks. Basically having unpopular leaders is the rule rather the exception."

They were after Hillary for thirty years. She was very toxic in a lot of the country. It was not her fault. It was the GOP attacks over many, many years.

[Nevernose]

78. Let's assume he is 100% correct

He's not correct, despite making a few decent points, but let's pretend he is.

One: one of the ways that Republicans have protected their brand so successfully is because they don't have these discussions or air this laundry in public. Maybe the rank and file do (like the Tea Party), but keep shit like this out of the public eye.

Two: If the Republicans hate and fear Nancy Pelosi so goddamned much that they'll spend millions attacking her, then she must be doing something right. I think that anyone who makes Republicans angry and afraid needs more time in the spotlight, not less.

If any of you ever find yourself agreeing with Trump, McConnell, or the Koch Brothers, maybe step back, take deep breaths, and reevaluate your line of thinking.

[Tatiana]

90. While his rhetoric is despicable, he's a "Joe Manchin" type of Democrat.

Are we going to throw them out or do we need them too much at this time?

He's from Ohio, a place that is rapidly becoming more and more wingnutty.

One of the moderate Dems needs to sit him down for a "talk."

[pirateshipdude]

91. I think we at least call them out for their dishonesty and the harm they orchestrate.

Hey, can you explain "Joe Manchin". I am uninformed.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

116. Joe Manchin is not asking for leadership in the senate though

If he were, he'd get laughed at

[Cha]

92. Rep. Tim Ryan apologizes for using word 'dago' in TV interview

Link to tweet

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/rep_tim_ryan_apologizes_for_us.html

[Cha]

99. Tim Ryan squirming today is funny.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

103. Any elected Dem who isn't laser focused on healthcare right now

Link to tweet

[pirateshipdude]

106. "gaggle of Dem reps plotting to oust her WHILE THE GOP IS TRYING TO KILL US."

Thank-you.

[Cha]

109. You're welcome, pirateshipdude..

[still_one]

104. Perhaps he is related to Paul Ryan?

[Sneederbunk]

105. A contested primary would be appropriate.

[Cha]

110. Meanwhile, Nancy.. "We need to be taking care of our veterans.."

Link to tweet

[ecstatic]

112. That snake will NEVER lead the party now

Who told him his week long anti-Pelosi tour was a good idea? He's shown himself to be completely unfit. Divisive as hell. Just stupid. Bye.

[lillypaddle]

113. This guy gives me the willies

for some reason. Are we sure he isn't a repug? He needs to STFU.

[IronLionZion]

114. This is very disappointing, and not the way to do it

There is a place in our party for the blue collar rust belt types that Tim Ryan represents but it's not a reason to bash Pelosi or any of the coastal or urban liberals. I'm not sure what is being gained by that. I used to think he was a rising star in our party.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

115. I hope he gets primaried

[Orsino]

118. "In some parts of the country, she is" is absolutely correct.

It's also weaselry. Pelosi certainly is a boogeyman to Republicans, but that's another measure of her effectiveness.