Dems need to say this loud and clear!:THE GOP IS COLLAPSING OBAMACARE ON PURPOSE SO THEY CAN

[nikibatts]

GET SUPPORT TO REPEAL IT. They don't care about the healthcare of citizens. They just want, and Trump especially wants, to repeal anything and everything Obama achieved.

This should be the talking point on every TV show every radio show where a Gem appears as a guest. We have to fight them on their level. Their talking point is that Obamacare is collapsing. We need to make it know that Obamacare is working in many places and where it is not, it is because the GOP is withholding the funds necessary to make it fail.

Our message should be that we want to CORRECT the problems with the exchanges and we want to put forth a PUBLIC OPTION like Medicare for those who could qualify.
DO NOT ALLOW THEM AND THE MEDIA TO FRAME OUR MESSAGE AND INSIST ON MORE COVERAGE FOR OUR SPOKESPEOPLE!

[pangaia]

1. And....and. next is Medicare...then Social Security... next ....the entire social and financial

fabric of the USA...

Then the entire West. !!!


THAT is what must be told.

[Motownman78]

13. Medicare is already changing

3 people (Over 70 y/o) came into my office today having to do an interim certification for Section 8 because they are all of a sudden having Medicare Premiums taken out of their Social Security.

[pangaia]

15. I section 8 lower income people? Not sure?

[Motownman78]

19. Yes, they are

I don't know, but all of a sudden, these older folks over 70 are having $134 a month taken out of their 900 a month SS check.

[pangaia]

20. I am 73 not Section 8.

I think I have $134 taken out of SS which includes Medicare.

Plus I have a gap or advantage play which is about $80/mo? I forget.. something like that... Incl Part D

Although I sold my small, very small, business in 2015 so had a huge income that year.
Well, lets get real here.. huge for ME..LOL
So my SS check went down a whopping chunk for 2017.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. A big, fat K&R!

[malaise]

3. Actually someone needs to take them to court

Obamacare is the law and they are violating the law deliberately

[bdamomma]

24. exactly

citizens need to kick back hard, or they will go after social security, this is truly an assault on people.

Hi malaise

[BigmanPigman]

4. They have only just begun their evil work...they have blood in their teeth.

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Sabotage

which means the president is not faithfully executing all laws, even ones he disagrees with. So he is violating his oath of office.

[forgotmylogin]

6. They should rename it.

America's "Fiscally Cutting People's Healthcare for the Benefit of Tycoons" bill.

America's FCPH-tBT

Or for ease of pronunciation when bandied about on news shows: "Ameria's FUHcup(t)BUHtuh"

I seriously should send that in to them. I'm sure they're receptive to suggestions.

[Libertarian_4_life]

7. I'm lost

They haven't successfully passed any legislation on health care. How is it that they are collapsing the ACA? I must have missed something

[MiddleClass]

21. Republicans the last 7 yrs past a lot of small bills specifically targeting exchange participants

Making setting premiums actuarially impossible causing insurance companies to drop out.

Google things like "risk corridors" and how Republicans canceled them,

they poisoned the well and then shouted look everyone who drinks from that well is dying, close the well

[Libertarian_4_life]

22. Very interesting

Now that I Googled risk corridor, I will have to go read the ACA again so I can form an opinion. Haven't read it again once it was passed into law.

[MiddleClass]

23. Obama took an unworkable Republican idea and made it work for regular people and the insurance

Subsidies for the less wealthy, and the risk corridor for insurance companies to eliminate the risk.

Of certain high risk areas like Arizona, Florida, where average age is artificially high.

New York and California, where costs are artificially high because of things like real estate

[ffr]

8. You mean the Affordable Care Act

DO NOT ALLOW THEM AND THE MEDIA TO FRAME OUR MESSAGE. INSIST THAT THE ACA ALWAYS BE REFERRED TO AS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

[kentuck]

12. +100

[LakeArenal]

9. It Should be a talking point on TV or radio....

But it won't.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Republican Rubio's sabotage bill is already signed into law. . . . . nt

[ehrnst]

11. They have been doing this since day one - before it was even implemented.

They knew that ANY progress in health care reform attributed to the Democrats would hasten the demise of their party.

And it is horrific to see how the far left has joined in to make "better," as in more people getting actually getting health care that could not before, the enemy of "perfect as in SINGLE PAYER OR YOU ARE A CORPORATE SHILL!!!"

We need to understand the "progress" part of "progressive."

[kentuck]

14. I read somewhere that "they" were with-holding payments to the insurance companies?

And this was causing some insurance companies to desert some areas in some states?

Sounds like something they might do?

[ehrnst]

16. Yeah - making insurance companies unsure of what is coming

is part of the plan.

The deadline to enroll in the marketplaces just passed, and some companies would not re-enroll because they had no idea if the ACA subsidies would even be there next year - so that's part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Obamacare "imploding" because various explosives were planted by the GOP...

[Honeycombe8]

17. But that's not quite true.

The politicians will be called out on this on tv and look foolish.

The serious individual market problems started in 2015, and were definitely in place at the beg. of 2016. It's gotten worse since the election, but that's not when it started.

United Healthcare announced in 1st half of 2016 it was withdrawing entirely from the ACA individual market, after it had already pulled out of certain states. Co-ops did horribly in 2015 so that almost half of them were ordered closed down by the 1st half of 2016. And so on.

I personally was unable to find a dr. to take my policy in the 1st half of 2016, despite calling over 20 providers on the "network provider list." I had trouble finding one, also, in 2014 and 2015, and did not go to the dr., but I didn't try THAT hard. But in 2016, I spent hours calling around, trying to find any provider.

So there were serious problems before. Those problems have gotten worse, for sure. But to deny there were problems before won't pass knowledgeable pundits on tv who know the history.

[MiddleClass]

18. A public option, set up as Medicare for those under 65

Premiums are equal to Medicare premiums without subsidy,

based upon your income you get the current subsidies applied to that premium.

Obama care subsidies only apply to this public option.

That would place real competition on the cost of Obama care.

Leading to something like Medicare for all. When people use their free will to pay less.

What could be more of what Republicans try to say his conservative?