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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP going nuts a out the investigation. FBI must be reaching the fire.
Wonder what Mueller has and how close he is to bring this to a head.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Catmusicfan
(816 posts)still_one
(92,411 posts)golfguru
(4,987 posts)he can not be prosecuted and put in prison?
Makes no sense.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)During Watergate, Leon Jaworski reached the conclusion that you can't indict a sitting president, hence Nixon was merely named an "unindicted co-conspirator." However, that decision is not binding on Mueller. One could assume, though, that should Mueller get a grand jury to indict Trump, there would next follow a lengthy court battle over whether such a course of action was Constitutional, before there'd be any chance of seeing Donnie Little-Hands in the dock.
still_one
(92,411 posts)was all about
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)There is no precedent for a sitting President to be charged with a crime.
One is indicted for crimes. Trump could be sued or be held liable in a civil case per Jones v. Clinton.
still_one
(92,411 posts)Just like they did in the Jones V. Clinton
and the implications of this, are far more damaging to our national security
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)Still there is no precedent to indict a sitting President for crimes committed before or during his presidential term.
Jones v. Clinton held a sitting President could be sued in civil court.
The standards are different for a civil case versus a criminal one.
Likely Trump would have to be impeached, not pardoned by the incoming President and the indicted.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)davekriss
(4,628 posts)He can be indicted and convicted for any crime committed any time up to midnight January 19.
AJT
(5,240 posts)The GOP knows he has no proof yet and want to stop him before he really digs into this mess.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)peggysue2
(10,842 posts)And it's only a hunch that Mueller has plenty on Trump and his cabal. But there's a difference in gathering evidence and proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt, particularly for a sitting President and his various sycophants. The team Mueller has assembled is something of a tell, those with expertise in money-laundering, bank fraud, criminal investigators, people with terrorism and cyber-security experience, etc. It's an interesting group that suggests a multilayered approach. It all seems to be moving in agonizing, slow motion but when you consider how much time the Nixon investigation required, and how Mueller and his team have the advantage of Comey's investigative materials and effort? I suspect they're ahead of the game. We know that Page, Manafort, Flynn and his son, and Kushner have spoken with the FBI. Stone has lawyered up. Even Pence.
Methinks the story will get very, very interesting. In fact, all this nonsense chatter about collusion coming from Trump and his allies--how it's somehow not illegal to collude with a foreign adversary and why isn't Hillary Clinton being charged with collusion, yada, yada--makes me think something or someone is rattling a number of people's cages.
We shall see. As I said, just a hunch.