Here's what I fear about the voter data request

[SHRED]

That most states will say no and the press will declare the request by tRump a 'failure'...but it won't be.

It won't be because the critical swing states will comply and that's all they want anyway in order to carry their actual plans that include vote suppression and voter intimidation.

I hope I'm wrong.

[Chasstev365]

1. How many have Republican Governors and Republican legislatures?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. The refusals to turn over the data are from Republican as well as Democratic states.

Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Utah are among them.

[avebury]

3. The woman I talked to at the Oklahoma State Election

Board (the agency responsible for responding to the request) indicated that Oklahoma will provide the information (not including Social Security info) as a legal request of FOI. I don't know anybody is reporting that Oklahoma has refused to comply.

https://www.srnnews.com/trump-voting-commission-will-get-limited-state-voter-data/

Oklahoma, where nearly two-thirds of the vote in the November presidential election went to Trump, will provide nearly all the commission’s request, save for one bit of information: Social Security numbers.

“That’s not publicly available under the laws of our state,” said Bryan Dean, spokesman for the Oklahoma State Election Board.

Dean said the commission’s request will be treated like any other from the general public. The election board will tell the panel to fill out an online form asking for the information. Oklahoma’s voter roll is routinely provided to political campaigns, the press and other groups that ask for it.

[karadax]

5. Indiana is giving partial data.

Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson won't provide information about voters' Security numbers, birthdates, political affiliation or voting history.

She said in a statement Friday that state law only allows her to share voter names, congressional districts and addresses.

[karadax]

8. Utah also giving partial data.

“It is the duty of my office to protect certain private voter information– we will not share any protected data with the Commission. However, similar to most other states, Utah law requires voter registration records be public documents that can be obtained by any person or entity who submits an appropriate records request.”

That information will not include Social Security and driver license numbers, Cox said in his statement.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Add Nevada to the cave to the Idiot States that

are giving info to Kobach. We have a Tea Bagger for a SOS. She demanded the Vote totals be checked for illegals voting on November 9. Remember Michele Fiorie,well this one is from the same crowd.

[Greywing]

6. Add Colorado and its Republican Secretary of State

Because info is available as public information - just pay $50 for a CD. I am really pissed! No one has the right to know who I voted for let alone my social security info, etc. and my state should not have the ability to disclose that information without my permission!

[Wellstone ruled]

12. When this firs surfaced,

just knew we were in trouble. The 2018 elections will be so jacked up from the use of this info. Mercers Analytical was behind the Weaponizing of Clinton E-mails.

Get ready for some innocent persons to be messed with big time.

[Greywing]

13. Agree ... This is just so un-American I can hardly stand it!

I am just so upset that there is not more of a surge of outrage over this ... are people just so exhausted that they do recognize the danger this presents?

[Wellstone ruled]

14. What really sucks is,

our State Democratic Party chair went quite last night. We have this fantastic chance to turn this state solid blue,and everyone is deaf.

[Igel]

16. Nobody's said they're going to give confidential information.

Most states say that some of the requested information is public. They asked for public information, and then a list of what they wanted. I assume that what they intend from any given state is the intersection of the two sets.

Apart from you and whomever you've told, nobody knows how you voted. That includes the state. So nobody can turn over that information.

I tend to agree that much of the "I'm not going to do that" is showboating. Most have said, "No way I'm giving them that information." Then, sotto voce, they say, "We don't have the information or it's confidential by law."

[MedusaX]

7. This is a clever shell game. Use public display of fully anticipated refusal to provide ss#/bday etc

As cover story to 'reassure' voters that their info is secure.....

Meanwhile, someone leaves a backdoor wormhole into the IRS database...
Which has complete ss# & bdays & all locations of holdings/income for each person.... commonly known as a 1040.

A. If no 1040 info on record at IRS for names found on publicly accessible Voter Rolls....
then purge their name from roll
because obviously no income source

B. Cross Reference 1040 info with Voter Party Info & double whammy...
purge or alter voter roll info
And
possibly target financial holdings ...
by cross referencing IRS data with other hacked account database info on hand

The true danger is never the shiny act you are shown...
It is the one never mentioned....
but is taking place in the darkness
while you are focused on the shiny act taking place in front of you...

[frazzled]

11. The federal government can't legally purge voters from state rolls

Each of the states is in charge of its own voter registration, maintaining rolls, running elections (even federal ones), etc. And each state has its own laws about eligibility and removal. The federal gov't has nothing to do with it.

At least in my state, where the state voter rolls were hacked in 2016, even the hackers couldn't affect the election by deleting names at the state level. The counties manage the rolls and upload them to the state. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be evident, and a crime:


From Vox a while back:

The hack into Illinois’s election system is the one we know the most about. Ken Menzel, who serves as general counsel for the Illinois state board of elections, told Bloomberg that a part-time contractor for the state board of elections noticed unauthorized data leaving the network.

That data contained the personal information of around 15 million people, including names, birthdays, genders, and partial Social Security numbers. It was a huge coup for the Russians, as around half of those 15 million were active voters. Apparently, the cyber intruders aimed to delete or alter voter data they got a hold of.

But even if they did that, that still wouldn’t necessarily have affected the election. ****It’s the counties that upload voter information to the state, not vice versa. So even if all the rolls were deleted at the state level, there was a backup plan in place to restore all the names.****

Voter data wasn’t all the information the hackers were after, though. In a different, unidentified US state, the Russians were able to get information from a campaign finance database, which would give them insight into the financial connections between certain voters and candidates.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions

[Amaryllis]

15. THey can't technically do it legallly but Kobach has been doing it for several years now with

Crosscheck. 30 states now using it. Oregon refused it becasue they said it provided them with unreliable data.

[diva77]

18. +1000 Also, the data from those states gets funneled thru Kobach in KS

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029272881#post76

[neeksgeek]

9. I have a very common English name

I've even met some other people who share my name, when UPS (in their infinite wisdom) has delivered a package to the wrong one of us.

So. Out of curiosity I just checked North Carolina's voter database, and there are at least three other people with my exact first name, middle initial, and last name, not counting duplicates from different counties, all born in 1970. Never mind people born in other years... One of the dupes, which has been "removed," is actually my first registration from 1988, then there is a more recent active one that shows me voting in Mecklenburg County except for the year I voted in Watauga County while I was in grad school.

The suggestion from the GOP that these name matches might be evidence of voter fraud is absurd.

In the immortal words of Barry Kripke from the Big Bang Theory: the Voter Commission, and Trump himself, can all "go suck a lemon."

[Pacifist Patriot]

10. Yep. There are six women in my county with my name.

Two of whom have the same middle initial and one was born the same year. Absurd is right!

[spanone]

17. everyone should be afraid. it's politically motivated. it's wrong in every way.

republicans don't mind gerrymandering

kobach is absolutely the wrong guy