Fuck You Jill Stein.

[Stinky The Clown]

Just fuck you.

[Stinky The Clown]

1. She gave up any right to criticize Trump when she helped him steal the presidency.

Fuck You Jill Stein.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Green Jill Stein & Republican Flynn dining with Authoritarian Putin in Moscow 2015

[Alice11111]

60. We know Flynn was paid. Bet she was too. I wonder how $$

much money Putin gave to her campaign? Just another way to shave off a bit more from the Dems.

[Rorey]

2. That really can't be said enough. NT

[hrmjustin]

3. Well said and too bad to any of her fans here.

[NurseJackie]

7. They prowl and lurk... no doubt.

[lastlib]

17. F*ck them, too.

With a chain-saw. On full throttle.

[bettyellen]

4. We lost those seats because of ObamaCare and assholes like you Jill who didn't understand how

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Important it was. Ugh.

[Sunlei]

5. Will the "attack against USA democracy investigation" ask why Stein went to the dinner in Russia?

[47of74]

6. I second that motion.

[LakeArenal]

8. Yesterday's news...

Still striving for relevance.

[PDittie]

18. +1

[BainsBane]

9. Fuck Stein and all the fascist enablers who voted for her

It's not old news. We have to live through this hell because those people put their egos ahead of their fellow citizens.

[calimary]

10. What you said.

What EVERYBODY here said.

YOU and your lame-ass ideas and your idiot campaign helped us get trump. FUCK YOU JILL STEIN.

[smirkymonkey]

24. Hear, hear!

[Pachamama]

14. Even broken clocks are correct twice a day

She is still broken and can go fuck herself

[OilemFirchen]

15. Nowhere in the seven word OP is the Green Party mentioned.

BTW, fuck Jill Stein.

[LiberalLovinLug]

19. So if she was just an "ordinary" person, perhaps even a Democrat

she is still worth a 'fuck you'? It has nothing to do with her affiliation with the Green Party? That's a first.

I'm just saying you don't have to politically support her and her party, but the fact is their party is the one with the closest resembling platform to the Democratic platform. Yet she is so reviled. I don't' get it. How about at the very least live by the rule, if you can't say anything nice...Rather than these kinds of personal and pointless character attacks on our political allies.

[PDittie]

21. +3

[hrmjustin]

26. Did you approve of the campaign she ran?

[The Mouth]

33. Because -Trump

Her ego and the stupidity of her followers are the reason that we are going to have two or three fascist neanderthal bastards sitting on the supreme court, hundreds of jackboot thugs in judge's robes all around the country, and the deaths of thousands or thens of thousands because of cuts to health care.

Yes, Hillary ran a genuinely shitty campaign, yes, cheeto Benito lies to his moron followers, yes many of us DO live in a bubble, if by 'bubble' one means that I choose to only discuss issues with people with a decent education and an open mind, but still the simple fact is that is that if she had withdrawn from the ballot and supported Hillary we wouldn't have the nearly existential threat to our lives and the health of the fucking PLANET.

Fuck her and may everyone who voted for her lose their health coverage and pensions, social security and be the first to get flooded or otherwise fucked by climate change.

[lapucelle]

58. "Yes, Hillary ran a genuinely shitty campaign"

You may want to rethink that particular talking point. It's dismissive and insulting to many of us who worked on and/or with the campaign.

[The Mouth]

62. Apologies

The people who worked for her put their hearts into it. I really wanted her to win and drove people to the polls. The problem was that the campaign didn't seem to put her where she needed to be in front of the groups of people where it would have done the most good. So I am critiquing at the strategic level, I would never express anything other than admiration and respect for anyone who was on the ground getting out the vote.

It seemed like her national campaign didn't really play to her strengths. It seemed like she ran as the third term of President Obama. That was a great thing here in Northern California, with things improving in both economic terms and societal terms... In other words a Good Thing for me and mine property values going LGBT issues gradually improving, ecological consciousness growing....

it wasn't a good strategy in areas where things were still dismal and stagnant, like where I had relatives in Indiana and Ohio... that's what I mean by 'a poor campaign'.

[lapucelle]

64. The media did a terrible job of covering her campaign.

She did some great town halls and a series of important policy speeches. The only time Hillary seemed to get coverage was when there was a new little twist with her "email scandals". Then the collective tongues would cluck about the troubling optics concerning this troubling woman's troubling past. After the election, they blamed her for "not getting her message out" as if it was her fault that they failed to report what she was actually doing and saying.

We were all badly served by a formerly famously free press that morphed into an infotainment industry in the service of money and ratings.

[The Mouth]

65. No argument about that

She did a great job, yes the media found Cheeto Benito more entertaining. I just wish her strategy would have put her out there more and where she needed to be.

Again, I strongly supported, and genuinely liked her, my criticism is with the actual strategy - the where and when and how much, mostly because I was a pollster and studied political science and find the mechanics of a campaign fascinating (particularly when there is on good and obvious choice and one batshit crazy choice)

From ABC news:

RALLIES/SPEECHES HELD (IN 2016):
CLINTON: 278+
TRUMP: 302

PLACES CAMPAIGNED:
CLINTON: 37 states plus Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico
TRUMP: 45 plus Washington, D.C. and Mexico and Scotland

BREAKDOWN OF CAMPAIGN STOPS IN FINAL 7 DAYS

[10/31 –11/7]
CLINTON:

TOTAL RALLIES: 19
STATES: 8

Ohio
Pennsylvania
Florida
North Carolina
Nevada
New Hampshire
Michigan
Arizona
TRUMP:

TOTAL RALLIES: 26
STATES: 12

Colorado
Florida
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Hampshire
Ohio
Pennsylvania
North Carolina
Virginia
Wisconsin

[lapucelle]

67. I'm still not seeing "genuinely shitty"

based on the lists you so helpfully provided. Do you also have a breakdown of the proportional air time given to the various events?

Aside from the frenzied final days coverage, Clinton's events and policy speeches were given superficial coverage at best. We were subjected to (literally) wall-to-wall coverage of everything Trump for months. Genuinely shitty journalism was a major factor.

There was a remarkable, unprecedented, and, in some cases, genuinely frightening confluence of events and circumstances that delivered Trump to the White House. While the Clinton camp made mistakes in the run up to the general, I'm not buying into the "shitty campaign" narrative. Had it been that bad, she would not have won the popular vote.

[The Mouth]

68. Not going to argue

Since ANY critique is going to be taken personally, so Mea Culpa, I'm wrong, it was the greatest most brilliant campaign ever, it was the fault of everything and everyone except the people running it. It's all because the horrible, unfair electoral college and that those terrible people in the media were attracted to sensationalism and buffoonery instead of calm rational discussions of policy- which of course no one could have foreseen, let's just do the whole thing the same way in 2018 and 2020 and it will be better this time!

[lapucelle]

69. When one of the predicates of an argument

includes the measured and nuanced term "genuinely shitty", it's difficult to take it seriously.

[The Mouth]

70. OK, seriously

It was a campaign that spent unwisely and did not put the candidate in front of the crowds where she needed to be when she need to be there.

The two factors that the people running it should have foreseen, and that many did was that Trump has a high entertainment value, which equals eyeballs which equals money and that the Electoral College, not the public vote elects the President and thus should be the focus of where time and money is spent. There were key places where Trump spoke to crowds and Secretary Clinton did not, and there were issues near and dear to our Democratic Party base that were, and are, anathema to people in areas that needed to be won.

Spending more money for fewer electoral votes against an inexperienced, reprehensible blowhard with a massive record of lies and shocking statements is not worthy of emulation or admiration but instead of the most searching and brutal of post-mortem regardless of how unhappy anyone is or the insult they take from the results.

If I hear one more idiot whine about the Electoral College it will be one too many; if our candidate wins by 10 million votes in 2020 and gets 268 EC votes it's 'hello second term', and if we have a candidate that goes into areas where coal has been mined for generations, and people own and cherish guns and talk about how we've got to move beyond such things (no to argue about coal or guns but to give an example of how not to win hearts and minds) we'll be lucky to get even that. The EC is never going away, Russia and other nations are damned well going to try to mess with our elections next time and the Media is going to cover Herr Drumpf's each and every tweet, the omore outrageous the more coverage; if we want to win then those factors are the sort of thing that will need to be paid attention to, not merely that OUR candidate is highly competent and theirs is an ignorant buffoon.

There have been all kinds of excuses made over why Secretary Clinton, the best, most experienced, and qualified candidate since 1980 that we have run lost to a pussy grabbing doofus, every damned excuse except bad staff work, poor analytics and not getting the candidate speaking more and more often than the opposition.

Personally - when you outspend a blithering idiot of a man-child, don't get live in front of the people in crucial battleground districts, fail to greedily and systematically absorb to the greatest degree possible the supporters of your primary opponent and don't respond to attacks in a timeframe measured in seconds or minutes, that constitutes a 'genuinely shitty campaign'. Just my opinion and worth everything you paid for it.

cheers

[lapucelle]

71. I'll leave it to future historians to judge what happened this year.

Something tells me that "bad staff work, poor analytics, and not having the candidate speak more" will not be their primary focus.

[Hekate]

34. Jill's an ordinary person the way arsenic is an ordinary mineral: very toxic to the body politic

She needs to stfu

[stevenleser]

35. You are not convincing anyone with this argument.

The Greens are splitting the vote and allowing Republicans to win. That is their primary effect on politics in the US.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. She is NOT a Democratic

[JI7]

47. The green party goal is to help republicans win

[Demsrule86]

56. If she was a Democrat and not an evil Green rat, she would not be helping Trump steal

elections nor taking money for fake recounts from Democrats...now that I think about the recount bullshit...I add another fuck for Kremlin Jill.

[we can do it]

49. Fuck the Green Party too.

[hrmjustin]

25. The green party is our competition and not our friend.

They deserve no praise here.

[JustAnotherGen]

38. +1000

[Cha]

50. I call them the Barren Waste Party with the LIAR, stein,

Pawn for Putin, as their cult leader.

[tenderfoot]

28. The Green Party are economic libertarians that avoid eating red meat.

There is NOTHING green or progressive about them. They do nothing more than help Republicans get elected.

[Blue_true]

29. The Greens make me want to throw up.

Their claim to fame is pushing politically unobtainable bullshit. I don't need to list issues, I am a damned realist that realize that bashing my head against a wall only leads to brain damage. We make 8 years of progress and along come the damned Greens to help set the country back at least 20 years. It took President Obama 8 years to stop the hemoraging from Bush and put the country into a position to leap forward, then along came the Greens and equally as asinine "must earn my vote", "Hillary is evil", and "No difference between the major parties" idiots. They have no concept of what strategic voting means.

I don't care about what Greens or anyone that thinks like them want, screw them. I want to eliminate them completely, send the assholes to squawk from the peanut gallery. I am more interested in bringing the people that did not vote, but now realize that they fucked up.

[atreides1]

30. Allies????

The Green Party are allies, in the same way that Lord Stanley was an ally to Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth!


Sitting in the middle and waiting to see what happens before they pick a side...

[LWolf]

32. Well,

sometimes the best defense is an outraged offense. Of course, that leads one to wonder why a defense is needed...

Greens could easily be important allies, if the battle is for issues. If not, what exactly is the battle about?

[lark]

13. She's yet another Pootie pal.

Wonder if her, Flynn , Sessions, Manafort, Ryan, McTurtle and drumpf have formed a club?

[LiberalLovinLug]

22. seriously?

She is a politician. She sat once at the same table as Putin.

ergo: She is a "Pootie pal"?

Do you really want me to post images from Google of prominent Democrats, including Hillary, laughing it up with Putin? It comes with the job, one is going to travel the world and meet world leaders, not all of them nice. It does not mean you then are besties. Why does anyone even have to explain this to you?

[RandySF]

31. .

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[ProfessorGAC]

39. Seriously?

That's your excuse?
She EASILY could have said no to Putin's invite but no
And she was not an office holder! Merely an egomaniacal gadfly
You're WAY off base here.

[Chevy]

42. Perhaps because HRC was a SOS.

A politician actually has to have won a seat once in their lives other then that they are hucksters and gadflys.

[stevenleser]

44. Almost a nice try, but no. Stein regurgitated Russian agitprop against Hillary.

As did many of her supporters.

[Demsrule86]

57. She Flynn and Putin...you don't get to sit next to Pootie without selling your soul or country

out...she is a Green Scum traitor.

[BigmanPigman]

16. I heard Rosanne was going to run instead of Jill. I can't decide who would be worse.

[Chevy]

43. Those that support them are worse. n/t

[Honeycombe8]

23. What brought this on? As Ricky Ricardo would say, "Wa hoppened?" nt

[pangaia]

27. LOL....

Or perhaps, "Ralph !!!"

[DinahMoeHum]

36. GREEN Party: Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[liberalhistorian]

41. LOL, that's

perfect because it's so true! I'm stealing, if you don't mind.

[we can do it]

51. Thank you.

Vanity voters suck.

[Alice11111]

61. Vote green for Right Wing

[liberalhistorian]

40. I respectfully, and

succinctly, concur. There really is nothing else to say to her.

[Hekate]

45. You got that right, Stinky. Amazes me that the obnoxious twit still has vocal fans here.

She should be persona non grata at DU.

[Stinky The Clown]

46. She was on Alex Witt's noon show today

She immediately went after Hillary.

Fuck Jill Stein

[Cha]

48. Better.. Fuck the Fuck off, stein, you Fucked up

stupidass Fucking LIAR.

[The_Casual_Observer]

52. Isn't she the doctor that ran on the antivax

Platform? The person is thoroughly defective.

[louis c]

53. K&R

[XRubicon]

54. I grant no quarter to Jill

The Putin stooge.

[Demsrule86]

55. I second the fuck and raise you ten fucks.

[rzemanfl]

59. Not with mine please. n/t

[Gothmog]

63. A vote for Stein was a vote for Trump

[AgadorSparticus]

66. Yep. I would agree with that.

[NurseJackie]

73. With a cactus.