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Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:26 PM Jul 2017

Let's get behind Kamala Harris for President now!



Without a doubt, Kamala Harris is the most qualified person in America to be our next president. The freshman senator from California has already proven her political acumen, her progressive bonafides, and her refreshing outlook that brings out the dynamic presence that only Barack Obama has shown, along with the ability to complete the interrupted transformation of this country from its capitalist oppression to the fully progressive, global integrating society that is necessary for the total harmony and the elimination of the GOP as a force for all time.

Kamala is all the right attributes: Female, progressive, person of color, and a representative of our most progressive state in the nation: California. She resonates positively across all factions, is someone that the media can promote with conscience-free exhilaration, and work well with all Democrats and even progressive-leaning Republicans (at least the ones that will be left).

Kamala will have the ability, ALONG with the popular agenda to turn back all of Trump's (or Pence's) executive orders, reinstating Obama's executive orders, and working with a definite 2020 Democratic-majority Senate and House to finally get single-payer off the ground, restore fair and sustantial tax hikes not just on income, but also on dividends, enact a 90% estate tax, reduce the size of the military, and most importantly, reinstate our immigration policies that will facilitate the population trend to reduce whites to a true minority.

I realize we are two years away from the start of the presidential primary season, but lets start NOW and promote her here. If you all think it's too early, then let me remind you: Had Bernie Sanders basically started HIS presidential campaign a year earlier, he would have been president as he would have easily overcome the oppressive Super Delegate system that the Democrats have stupidly kept in place, and would not have had the (admittedly overhyped) problems that Hillary Clinton brought. And lets face it: WHO is more qualified, more photogenic, more youthful, more experienced, and more progressive than Kamala at the national level? In short, getting behind Kamala now will SEND A MESSAGE to the DNC that WE NEED REAL DIVERSITY, and REAL PROGRESSIVE VALUES.

Kamala Harris, President-Elect, 2020... MAKE IT SO!!
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Let's get behind Kamala Harris for President now! (Original Post) Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 OP
I'm excited about her possible candidacy. Aristus Jul 2017 #1
We have other things to do. murielm99 Jul 2017 #2
This is where Kamala will shine! Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #6
How does Kamala Harris feel about this? NobodyHere Jul 2017 #3
I would be interested to see her run. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #4
I'm certainly willing to consider Harris, but that graphic freaks me out. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #5
Agree. NT enough Jul 2017 #7
It's an effect still in process Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #8
There is nothing to be gained by putting a potential nominee in the wingnuts' crosshairs rzemanfl Jul 2017 #9
I disagree Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #19
Different times. Less absurd then than now, although I would never have believed that rzemanfl Jul 2017 #23
This is what I meant- rzemanfl Jul 2017 #42
Nah LittleBlue Jul 2017 #10
great..if she wants to run for the office...you might want to get her input on the MedusaX Jul 2017 #11
Unless she drastically changes, she's pretty much on point with the observations in the OP Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #12
She's my first choice proud patriot Jul 2017 #13
Never heard her speak other than a Senate hearing metroins Jul 2017 #14
By far and away the most charismatic candidate since Barack Obama Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #20
I think she has huge charisma, intelligence and strength too. bettyellen Jul 2017 #32
If your true intention is to make Dems hate Kamala Harris, you're off to a good start. Firstly, I.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #15
I'm not refighting the battle, just acknowledging some recaps Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #28
Get back to me in 2018...AFTER the mid-terms. Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #16
Kamala is HOT!!! There, I said it, and I don't regret it ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #17
Those were sexist comments and so is yours. Why don't HeartachesNhangovers Jul 2017 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #25
Unnnnn, I'll hold .. this "lets get a leader now" shit sounds more like get a leader and bash them YCHDT Jul 2017 #18
Actually, it makes them STRONGER and more electable Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #21
"Without a doubt, Kamala Harris is the most qualified person in America to be our next president." onenote Jul 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #26
Agreed. Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #37
I'll see you a Kamala and raise you a Tammy Duckworth! Actually, I'd be thrilled with either, but Squinch Jul 2017 #27
IMO, Thinning out the senate doesn't seem like a good idea. Also CK_John Jul 2017 #29
Ah, no. What I saw was the Senate shutting her down through bullying tactics Fluke a Snooker Jul 2017 #34
Thanks for reminding me... billh58 Jul 2017 #30
Al Franken and Kennedy for me. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #31
"Without a doubt, Kamala Harris is the most qualified person in America to be our next president" Takket Jul 2017 #33
I hope the best candidate gets through the primary. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #35
Right now I am favoring Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington. And the Super Delegates played StevieM Jul 2017 #38
1) Clinton won without superdelegates 2) Bernie told us he lost fair and square. 3) Kamela emulatorloo Jul 2017 #39
I've liked what I have seen mvd Jul 2017 #40
Nope, it's way too early and I'd need to see all the candidates who are running before I decide. octoberlib Jul 2017 #41
 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
6. This is where Kamala will shine!
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:44 PM
Jul 2017

She has been working behind the scenes quietly raising money for many Democratic contenders, and even helping with existing Democrat's races. I have every confidence that 2018 will be a banner year for Democrats as we take the House, and hold off our losses on the Senate (remember, we are defending 10 seats in competitive districts, while the GOP is only defending 2 seats in competitive districts, although we might make inroads there). In particular, if Kamala helps Tom Perez, Barack Obama and the DNC to win the House back, then her stature will shoot through the roof. THIS is what I mean by a consummate politician, probably the best candidate we've ever had save for Barack Obama.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
5. I'm certainly willing to consider Harris, but that graphic freaks me out.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:40 PM
Jul 2017

Glory is not a word I would associate with a politician and it appears that glory in this context is rain and broken shards of glass falling on Harris' head.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
8. It's an effect still in process
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jul 2017

It actually works better for my Gaming posters, but to be blunt, Kamala outshines even those heroes in stature.

rzemanfl

(31,411 posts)
9. There is nothing to be gained by putting a potential nominee in the wingnuts' crosshairs
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jul 2017

this early.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
19. I disagree
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jul 2017

The point is that if the cons are targeting someone then that person will be able to shine by his, her, or hir's responses and actions. May I present as my first exhibit: Senator Barack Obama.

rzemanfl

(31,411 posts)
23. Different times. Less absurd then than now, although I would never have believed that
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jul 2017

could ever happen at the time.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
10. Nah
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jul 2017

That poster gives me the creeps. Looks cultish.

Let's wait for the primaries and see who actually runs and what their platforms are.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
11. great..if she wants to run for the office...you might want to get her input on the
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jul 2017

platform planks listed in the OP...


As she might not support a few which are listed and might have a few ideas of her own regarding the most appropriate way to rebuild the nation in order to ensure that we will be prepared to move forward.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
12. Unless she drastically changes, she's pretty much on point with the observations in the OP
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jul 2017

metroins

(2,550 posts)
14. Never heard her speak other than a Senate hearing
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jul 2017

Is she charismatic?

I'm voting for the most charismatic person this go around.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
20. By far and away the most charismatic candidate since Barack Obama
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jul 2017

And situated from California will automatically seal the deal to the rest of the progressives in this country.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. I think she has huge charisma, intelligence and strength too.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jul 2017

I think she's got the "it" factor like no one else.
I'd love to see her teamed w Franken.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
15. If your true intention is to make Dems hate Kamala Harris, you're off to a good start. Firstly, I..
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jul 2017

personally adore her, and agree she'd make a wonderful chief executive. But all the Bernie shit you conjectured about is pure tripe. Nothing but. I think Kamala would be better served if she weren't included in comparisons with Bernie Sanders. She's a progressive, but she's also a rock solid Democrat. Nobody, including you, knows that "he would have been president as he would have easily overcome the oppressive Super Delegate system that the Democrats have stupidly kept in place". Our super delegate system did exactly what it was intended to do, and I have absolutely no regrets about that.

Bernie's appeal was limited to folk like you. He had near zero appeal to POC, and he's been at it for decades, so another year wouldn't have made a thimble full of difference. Since you seem to want to re-fight the last battle and introduce some (let's call it)creative conjecture, I'm not sure Kamala would be want to be associated with this o.p., and if she does, I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with her.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
28. I'm not refighting the battle, just acknowledging some recaps
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jul 2017

Yes, I voted for Hillary Clinton just as fervently as I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary. But "rock solid Democrat"...what IS that, anyway? Granted, Hillary Clinton is one of the most rock solid Democrats of our time, and in a normal universe would be president now. But this year was an anomaly, due to the insane nature of the right. (For instance, if you think Trump is bad, it could have been worse: Ted Cruz). And Hillary Clinton is, by far and away, the most successful Democrat (other than Barack Obama), and one of the most skilled artisans of the political craft, since her husband.

Age, though will play a factor this time around. The millennials will be fully matured through college and in the workforce or public sector with seasoned attitudes. They see a Justin Trudeau, right at the cusp of Gens X and Millennial, and anyone older, no matter how progressive or forthright they are with their actions, will outshine strong, competent, and socially savvy Gen X'ers like Harris.

Finally: Let's see how Kamala Harris helps out her Senate and House comrades in the 2018 elections. She was an integral part of the California ascendancy of the progressive movement which resulted in now-permanent supermajority in the California legislature, and a Republican will never see the light of day at the state level.

Wounded Bear

(64,438 posts)
16. Get back to me in 2018...AFTER the mid-terms.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

If she runs and wins the nomination, I'll support her.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Kamala is HOT!!! There, I said it, and I don't regret it
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

And if anyone accuses me of being sexist, I will point them to all the posts by women slobbering over Macron and Trudeau.

Besides, she's intelligent and gives the asshole GOPers what they deserve when they try to shut her up. Yep, I'd vote for her in a minute.

24. Those were sexist comments and so is yours. Why don't
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jul 2017

we just leave people's appearances out of the discussion? Yes, it would eliminate a lot of posts, but it would also elevate the discussion.

Response to HeartachesNhangovers (Reply #24)

YCHDT

(962 posts)
18. Unnnnn, I'll hold .. this "lets get a leader now" shit sounds more like get a leader and bash them
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jul 2017
 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
21. Actually, it makes them STRONGER and more electable
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jul 2017

Exhibit A: Senator Barack Obama, circa 2005-2006

onenote

(46,188 posts)
22. "Without a doubt, Kamala Harris is the most qualified person in America to be our next president."
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 04:56 PM
Jul 2017

I guess that depends on how one measures and ranks qualifications. I think she could be an excellent candidate, but I don't see her as being so far ahead of other potential candidates to declare her far ahead of anyone else. There are a number of potential candidates, some more "progressive" than others but all potentially electable, including Elizabeth Warren and Adam Schiff. I could probably name a half dozen others, but the point is that it's a tad early to declare one person the be all and end all candidate at this point in time.

Response to Fluke a Snooker (Original post)

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
36. Agreed.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:58 PM
Jul 2017

But let's not suppress a good thing from the get-go. I've known Kamala since her days on the San Francisco City Attorney's office. The respect that she commands runs across the board. Keep in mind she could have held out and run for governor, but her eyes are on the bigger scheme of things: to make life better for a global community of progressive humans, not just Americans.

Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #36)

Squinch

(59,803 posts)
27. I'll see you a Kamala and raise you a Tammy Duckworth! Actually, I'd be thrilled with either, but
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jul 2017

I'm just making the point that we have a very, very good field to choose from and these are only two of many. Contrary to what some might say.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
29. IMO, Thinning out the senate doesn't seem like a good idea. Also
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jul 2017

she did not empress me at the hearings, I though she was too passive and let others fight for her...

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
34. Ah, no. What I saw was the Senate shutting her down through bullying tactics
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jul 2017

Last edited Tue Jul 4, 2017, 07:47 PM - Edit history (1)

This is not to say she can't withstand bullies, as the entire Republican Leadership can claim, but what I myself saw was a GOP leadership that wanted to shut Kamala down PRECISELY because she is now one of the defacto leaders of the Senate, of which only Elizabeth Warren and Barack Obama had displayed in their freshmen stints. In short, they are SCARED TO DEATH of her! A great sign and indication indeed.

Edited to add: Frankly, California will never go less than strong progressive on any statewide candidate, be it Senate, Governor, or Lt. Governor. Keep in mind that Kamala won a runoff with another DEMOCRAT, Loretta Sanchez, a stalwart of the House, and one who took out Bob Dornan, who essentially was Donald Trump without the billions of dollars.

Takket

(23,747 posts)
33. "Without a doubt, Kamala Harris is the most qualified person in America to be our next president"
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jul 2017

I stopped reading right there.

Nothing but respect for her but... no she's not.

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
38. Right now I am favoring Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington. And the Super Delegates played
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jul 2017

no role in Clinton's victory. They were always going to go with the pledged delegate victor, just as was established in 2008.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
39. 1) Clinton won without superdelegates 2) Bernie told us he lost fair and square. 3) Kamela
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

Harris is great but I promise you she will get the full Hillary smear treatment by misguided "BoB-Boaters for Truth" in the twitterverse and blogosphere. She'll be targeted by the right as well.

I really don't want to expose her to that now.

P.S. The DNC is a deadly dull organizational agency, not the evil cabal the Sputnik News-addled conspiracy nuts on Reddit are claiming. Tom Perez and Keith Ellison are strong progressives.

mvd

(65,934 posts)
40. I've liked what I have seen
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jul 2017

But, it is too early for me to say. I don't even know much about her background. I know Warren better, and if she does well in her reelection, I prefer her at this time. I doubt Bernie runs again, but if he does, he would of course appeal to me. The field we get will be interesting.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
41. Nope, it's way too early and I'd need to see all the candidates who are running before I decide.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 08:41 PM
Jul 2017

Right now I'm leaning Franken if he runs, but that could change.

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