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Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:05 PM

After Maddow's report last week I don't trust the Don Jr emails

There are Russian groups (including the ones occupying the White House) wanting to discredit the US media.


King Con can't dismantle them so its best to discredit them among the independent voters.


Has anyone verified these emails came from Don Jr


I don't trust the Russian's nor their puppets in the white house


EDIT: Trump Jr released emails with redacted info to be able to call the NYT emails fake when they release them !!!!

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Reply After Maddow's report last week I don't trust the Don Jr emails (Original post)
YCHDT Jul 2017 OP
cilla4progress Jul 2017 #1
YCHDT Jul 2017 #6
madaboutharry Jul 2017 #2
YCHDT Jul 2017 #7
madaboutharry Jul 2017 #9
awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #27
underpants Jul 2017 #28
herding cats Jul 2017 #11
YCHDT Jul 2017 #13
herding cats Jul 2017 #18
YCHDT Jul 2017 #19
herding cats Jul 2017 #20
YCHDT Jul 2017 #22
Foamfollower Jul 2017 #3
jberryhill Jul 2017 #32
sharp_stick Jul 2017 #4
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #5
Hortensis Jul 2017 #14
marlakay Jul 2017 #26
YCHDT Jul 2017 #30
octoberlib Jul 2017 #8
YCHDT Jul 2017 #10
PoorMonger Jul 2017 #12
YCHDT Jul 2017 #15
spanone Jul 2017 #16
YCHDT Jul 2017 #17
Atman Jul 2017 #21
YCHDT Jul 2017 #23
Atman Jul 2017 #24
YCHDT Jul 2017 #25
Atman Jul 2017 #31
YCHDT Jul 2017 #34
TNLib Jul 2017 #29
Atman Jul 2017 #33
MariaCSR Jul 2017 #35

Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:06 PM

1. Sowing distrust...

just what they aimed for!

(me too... we will see what Rachel says about this tonight.)

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:11 PM

6. K&R

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:06 PM

2. Don Jr. released them himself on his twitter account.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:13 PM

7. WTF ?! I'm just getting this on CNN so I'm a little behind ...why would he do that !?

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:14 PM

9. Because the New York Times had them

and was about to release them. So he released them first.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:55 PM

27. Still doesn't make sense though.

By releasing them himself before the Times he just proved they're real.

Weird.

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:56 PM

28. Because he's a _______ moron

His lawyer should get some duct tape for his mouth and tape his hands to the chair and keep his phone far away.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:18 PM

11. Yep. All doubt is cast aside and any attempt to say they're altered is out the window.

He sank his own defense.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:24 PM

13. Well, if DT Jr has less info than the NYT then DT Jr can call the NYT fake ... there has to be

... a strategic reason why they would release them now

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:31 PM

18. The NYT isn't making such a claim, though.

Here's their most recent article. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

It hits on all the shocking bits in the exchange and there's nothing that isn't in the emails Jr. released.

In effect, Trump Jr. also validated the NYT as not being "fake news" in his release.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:34 PM

19. WTF ... these people are stupid but can they be THIS stupid?!

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:38 PM

20. The best part is he also destroyed their fallback spin with his release.

The RW media bloggers were already trying to claim the NYT had altered emails and their info was fake. Whoosh! That spin went out the window.

Trump Jr. Has got to be the dumbest of the Trumps, which is saying quite a lot.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:42 PM

22. or he's working with the feds ?! If he is that stupid then my ConcernOMeter has gone up a .50%

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:06 PM

3. " Has anyone verified these emails came from Don Jr "

 

You mean aside from the fact that Donald J. Trump Jr. just tweeted the emails????

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Response to Foamfollower (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:02 PM

32. Well...

 


...it's not as if he is under oath or anything.

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:07 PM

4. He released them himself

as soon as he found out the Times had them and was about to print them.

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:08 PM

5. But the Russians have no motive that I can think of

for phonying up those emails. They would want to keep this stuff quiet. Anyhow, DJTJr. says they're real.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:25 PM

14. Actually, Russia wants to put the U.S. in disarray,

weaken us to the point that we can't take care of ourselves, much less the planet.

So far from trying to keep this stuff quiet, Putin actually brags about interfering with our election, chuckles with phony denials, grabs every opportunity to flip the finger at us and stir the pot with some action, and has absolutely no loyalty to the Rumps. Spite seems to be a big part of this. And he'll help destroy this presidency any time it suits his purposes.

Among the informed theories about where the NYTimes and other info is coming from are from inside the White House, from our intelligence services, and from Russia.

I wish someone would slip polonium into his tea and stop his good times. He's enjoying himself way too much.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:55 PM

26. Very sad but Russia has done a good job

Screwing up our country and making a split country even worse. Republicans upset with each other democrats upset with each other. A good chunk of the country says its all rigged why even bother to vote and if i do the leaders are mostly rich and don't care about me.

I heard that during campaign going door to door from people who didn't vote even before Trump was the guy and worse after.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:58 PM

30. Yeap

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:14 PM

8. The NYT had the emails and were going to release them so Don Jr decided to get ahead of them.

Don't know where the Times got them from. Kushner gave them to Maggie Haberman?




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Response to octoberlib (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:17 PM

10. fuckin wow

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:23 PM

12. If This Were a Plant...

Like the fake news that was sent to Maddow - they would have gleefully waited for the Times to release the dummy email and THEN released the real chain to discredit the media. That's not what happened here.

I think that Don Jr. isn't used to being the center of the shitstorm and thought that getting out in front was his best defense - even though it shows a willful violation of campaign finance law , I doubt Jr. knew that.

What I wonder about is who leaked the meeting ever happened? Is someone in Trump's circle aiming to take out Jr. ? I think it's more probable that Jared is the real target here as he's still an administration official. In short , I smell Steve Bannon on this one. Or , it could be Paulie Manafort finally spilling to FBI pressure - he is a direct witness to the meeting after all.

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Response to PoorMonger (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:26 PM

15. Good question, I think he got out in front so he can say the NYT email set is fake when it comes

... out with more info

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:27 PM

16. it's on the front page of every news site on the internet....including fox 'news'

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Response to spanone (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:29 PM

17. Yeah and it looks like DT Jr released them preemptive to NYT release which I'm sure he'll call fake

... news once the NYT email set hits the air

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:40 PM

21. I'm a bit suspicious that this is a set-up.

It's almost toooo convenient.

>> The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” <<

If you knew you were sending high-level sensitive information, would you really use email? Especially in light of the email scandal that was going on? It just a bit hinky if you ask me. Which you didn't.

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Response to Atman (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:44 PM

23. Another good point, why would they even THINK about going through email ?!!?

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:50 PM

24. And spelling out their crime in detail.

As if to save the investigators some time. Seriously? Not even coded language? Or just "Call me, some important items to discuss." Why put the details of your crime in an email? Unless they're not real emails, and are actually bait. When Trumpsky's people reveal them to all be fake, it will undermine the entire claim against him, and the American people will further distrust the media and bring Trumpsky's authoritarian take-over that much closer.

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Response to Atman (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:52 PM

25. Right, I'm still leaning on bait right now seeing its not a crime for DT Jr to say he put out

... fake emails to the media via twitter.

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Response to YCHDT (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:01 PM

31. It's important to remember that this is a family of seasoned criminals.

With really sleazy lawyers giving them really sleazy advice. Better call Saul!

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Response to Atman (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:09 PM

34. lol I love that show

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:56 PM

29. They're not fake Don Jr released them himself because they are in panic mode.

The NYT Times was about to release the emails.

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Response to TNLib (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:03 PM

33. That fact that NYT was about to release them does not make them "not fake."

If they were fake and leaked/sent to all the right sources, Trump Jr. can help orchestrate the release.

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Response to YCHDT (Original post)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:12 PM

35. Jared Sexton from NYT said he worked on this for a year

 

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