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Tue Jul 18, 2017, 09:30 PM

when i learned about the 8th guy in don jr meeting

it dawned on me that the true purpose of that meeting was to setup a funding stream of laundered russian money. It all falls together. Remember, Kushner also met the alfa bank guy, there was this misterious trump tower computer transacting with alfa bank , etc..

The whole gop was on the take which explains their behavior..


Rachel is laying it out clearly.

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Reply when i learned about the 8th guy in don jr meeting (Original post)
drray23 Jul 2017 OP
cilla4progress Jul 2017 #1
slumcamper Jul 2017 #5
drray23 Jul 2017 #6
WhiteTara Jul 2017 #9
pnwmom Jul 2017 #15
LittleGirl Jul 2017 #18
Motley13 Jul 2017 #2
drray23 Jul 2017 #3
certainot Jul 2017 #4
ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #7
NBachers Jul 2017 #8
drray23 Jul 2017 #10
NBachers Jul 2017 #11
BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #12
oasis Jul 2017 #13
SergeStorms Jul 2017 #14
duhneece Jul 2017 #16
SergeStorms Jul 2017 #22
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #19
oasis Jul 2017 #20
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #21
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #17

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 09:37 PM

1. Yes

We are watching history happening in front of us.

I think those congressmen that were interviewed - Burr and Warmer - intel committee chairs - looked scared. Scared on the magnitude of really scared. Like they know Putin owns us. Or at least trump. It all up to Mueller now.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:13 PM

5. So if we end up with Pence...

(who may be able to thread the needle of accountability), we may go from the frying pan into the fire, especially on matters of social policy. While bad enough, the long-term impact of that proposition gets much more frightening if SCOTUS appointments are factored into the scenario.

When it comes to checking a potential Pence presidency, sustaining progress, and reestablishing leadership for positive ends in the world, 2018 is the whole ballgame.

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Response to slumcamper (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:17 PM

6. pence will be neutered.

That is, with the backslash we will retake congress in 2018, maybe even the senate. He is also not totally clean himself. I would agree he is probably more adept at working with congress which is why retaking the house in 2018 is so critical.

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Response to slumcamper (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:26 PM

9. Pence is in on it.

He most likely will not escape unscathed.

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Response to slumcamper (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 11:26 PM

15. Manafort brought Pence on board, and Pence was involved with Flynn.

Pence is book-ended by two men who are among Mueller's main targets. I bet Pence will go when DT does.

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Response to slumcamper (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:03 AM

18. NOOOO, he is just as guilty

Pence is even worse than rump. Worse, I tell you because he will try to rule with the bible. He's horrible just like rump.
And he will go down too. (I hope).

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 09:46 PM

2. I'm sure he was interested in Ruussian adoption

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:04 PM

3. i should add there are even more signs of that.

I forgot to mention that manafort is being investigated for dubious loans and real estate machinations. This came out a couple of days ago.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:05 PM

4. the guy who can promise payment

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:20 PM

7. If only there were pictures...


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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:21 PM

8. And what happens when the payofvs stop?

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Response to NBachers (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:28 PM

10. the whole thing will come crashing down.

The kushner family for example is over extended financially with a huge loan of several hundred billions tied to a monster real estate purchase. They have been trying and failing to renegociate that loan and its coming due soon.

Interesting fact : Kushner tried to get qatar to inject money in it and they refused. Shortly after that, Trump accused qatar of sponsoring terrorism which led to an embargo by saudi arabia and others. huge mess. its believed that kushner pushed for it. In other words, he used the presidency to retaliate against qatar in a business transaction. Talk about corruption...

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Response to drray23 (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:44 PM

11. I'm no fan of the Russian mob, but I want to watch a karmic payoff of mythc proportions fall on

these people. A Shakespeare denouement for the ages. As the hoofbeats approach, they will seek the isolation, safety, and protection of prison, but nay, their refuge will be bitter.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:50 PM

12. Robert Reich (and many others) have been saying, "Follow the money" from square one.

And if they aren't linked to Russia financially they are linked in other ways. Mueller will have his work cut out for him getting Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc nailed as well but perhaps if a few start talking , others will too.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:53 PM

13. The slow, agonizing collapse of the Trump House of Cards.

"I love it"....to steal a quote from a recently exposed scoundrel.

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Response to oasis (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 11:11 PM

14. It will ALMOST.....

make up for the way I felt on the morning of November 9, 2016. Almost, but nothing will ever erase that feeling from my mind and body. I say "body" because it made me physically ill. I'm yet to recover from the mental damage of a Trump presidency.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 11:45 PM

16. I was curled up in a fetal position, literally

then wore black for the next few months (well, I did have a very close friend die of brain and lung cancer Nov 28)...

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Response to duhneece (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:48 AM

22. Hey......

I just read your sig line. Time to make a donation! And best of luck to you as well. You live in New Mexico? What a gorgeous state. So beautiful there..... I'm envious. OK, over to ActBlue to donate. Kick some GOP ass, OK?

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Response to oasis (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:06 AM

19. I don't want to rain on your slow moving parade

But no one has been charged with anything yet. No impeachment on the table.

I'm sure some good folks in Germany, in the dawn of the Nazi era, when just the first few brown shirts were seen roaming around, thought it would never get to where it did.

The GOP could continue to support Trump, no matter what. Even if he fires Mueller. And they decide no new investigation is needed. Already Trump has his new toady to put in charge of the FBI, to quash any evidence they may have. Most radio stations are now owned by the right wing and extreme right wing. When the inevitable protests happen from sane Americans, those talk shows could incite gun violence against the 'antifas'. A new army of American born brown shirts. Trump will have all law enforcement departments filled by his own cronies who will be in on it an won't lift a finger at the right wing violence and instead jail the protesters.

Just because its never happened here. It is actually easier the first time because no one, or not enough, will believe it is even happening, or that it will blow over.

Sorry for being such a downer but I remain on high alert.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:20 AM

20. Believe me, America will get over this lingering head cold by year's end.

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Response to oasis (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:26 AM

21. I truly hope you are right about that

I remember when we said there was no way Bush would win a second term though.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 11:46 PM

17. The Russian people should also be up in arms

I know there is a large segment with Putinmania there, but if this is true it reveals the kind of mobster family 'government' they have there. Russians are being ripped off in this as well.

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