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Mueller needs to act as fast as he can. Trump is unhinged and ready to do much damage to the USA. (Original Post) nikibatts Jul 2017 OP
i wonder if anyone in the gop MFM008 Jul 2017 #1
Note of what? That he is threatening Mueller? Amaryllis Jul 2017 #3
Yes MFM008 Jul 2017 #27
He got orders from Putin. Catmusicfan Jul 2017 #2
Correction in tense...he IS DOING damage to the USA BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #4
Did you see his fist bump to Putin at the G-20? They've been playing it a lot today, R B Garr Jul 2017 #5
45 is going to fire Mueller, and he's going to pardon people sharedvalues Jul 2017 #6
Exactly superpatriotman Jul 2017 #8
If freaking journalists started pointing out his lies we might have a shot before that sharedvalues Jul 2017 #9
That would probably be news to the folks at WaPo and the NYT BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #15
Investigative journalism has been great. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #16
Yeap, there's no shame with him and his crew they could give 2 fucks what the stinky people think uponit7771 Jul 2017 #18
It's outrageous that a criminal is allowed to pardon himself. Outrageous. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #20
No one knows how far he is Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #7
Perhaps sharedvalues Jul 2017 #10
That's what set off Trump, when he found out Mueller is now investigating Donnie JR wishstar Jul 2017 #11
He's going to fire Rosenstein and Mueller sharedvalues Jul 2017 #12
It'll probably go on into next year. It's gotten very complicated, with many tentacles. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #21
We don't have years. He'd better be working at light speed. CrispyQ Jul 2017 #26
I agree. Seeing the reporting on this - I can't believe that they're not screaming flamingdem Jul 2017 #29
No, he needs to be as thorough as possible, and act according to the law. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #13
Wow, I found I can agree with you over! Foamfollower Jul 2017 #19
These clowns have already done enough damage! Lock them up! Initech Jul 2017 #14
Yeah, I'd appreciate some speed: I'm 70 & would like to go out in a sweet twilight state UTUSN Jul 2017 #17
Like Edward G Robinson in "Soylent Green"? nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #22
Pretty much!1 UTUSN Jul 2017 #24
That'd be a good way to go. But you're only 70! nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #25
Just saying I don't want Drumpf in my twilight UTUSN Jul 2017 #30
I hope the people involved in the investigation...Specifically Mueller....has a plan if tRump goes Grammy23 Jul 2017 #23
I agree, the shark has been jumped flamingdem Jul 2017 #28

BigmanPigman

(55,526 posts)
4. Correction in tense...he IS DOING damage to the USA
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jul 2017

and has been since he came down the golden escalator.

R B Garr

(18,109 posts)
5. Did you see his fist bump to Putin at the G-20? They've been playing it a lot today,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jul 2017

the two of them at a long table -- opposite sides. And you can see Trump looking at Putin pointing back and forth to himself and Putin and then giving him a fist bump. Putin nods at him.

Now they are playing his quotes that he wouldn't have appointed Sessions if he had known he would recuse himself.

You're right, this is just out of control. Scary.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
6. 45 is going to fire Mueller, and he's going to pardon people
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jul 2017

We just have to be ready.

45 is a traitor and a criminal. He's been getting away with it for years. He knows he's caught. He's like a cornered animal. He's going to fire Mueller, and he's going to pardon a lot of people. Get ready for it.

superpatriotman

(6,882 posts)
8. Exactly
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:20 PM
Jul 2017

And we have nothing but next years midterms to try and regain some power. R's will do nothing but dismantle the republic until then.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
9. If freaking journalists started pointing out his lies we might have a shot before that
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jul 2017

But journalists keep repeating whatever 45 says, even when it's a lie.
"Adoptions" (w/o mention Putin restricted adoptions in response to sanctions)
"Sessions shouldn't have recused" (w/o mention Sessions lied to the Senate about meeting a Russian spy)

BannonsLiver

(20,857 posts)
15. That would probably be news to the folks at WaPo and the NYT
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jul 2017

Who have pretty much broken every major story on Russia and Trump over the last 6 months. Do you think that stuff just falls out of the sky?

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. Investigative journalism has been great.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:54 PM
Jul 2017

Those who repeat words of the GOP without calling out lies are at fault. (Interviews)

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
18. Yeap, there's no shame with him and his crew they could give 2 fucks what the stinky people think
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jul 2017

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. It's outrageous that a criminal is allowed to pardon himself. Outrageous.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:06 PM
Jul 2017

That floors me. That law needs to be changed.

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
7. No one knows how far he is
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:18 PM
Jul 2017

Mueller could be years away from indictments or he could be weeks away from them. I think he took over an investigation that was pretty far along, but it's probably gotten more complicated now. Would be good if this comes to term this year.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
10. Perhaps
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:24 PM
Jul 2017

But we heard recently Mueller didn't know about the meeting in June with the Putin agent, spy, and money launderer. He found out about the emails when we all did, in the press.
Just recently this past weekend Mueller's investigators called Jr's lawyer to get the name of the money launderer.

I am worried the investigation isn't that far along.

wishstar

(5,837 posts)
11. That's what set off Trump, when he found out Mueller is now investigating Donnie JR
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jul 2017

Trump cannot directly fire Mueller, though. He can only ask Rosenstein, who won't fire Mueller and Trump can fire Rosenstein and go down the roster to find someone to fire Mueller or resign.

But Trump can't fire the rank and file DOJ prosecutors and investigators who aren't political appointees and FBI agents and investigators.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
12. He's going to fire Rosenstein and Mueller
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jul 2017

Mueller has a plan in case he is fired. But when (not if) that happens, it's going to be a hot mess.


(Also: 45 can't fire rank and file DOJ civil servants. He can, however, order the head of DOJ to reassign them to other tasks, or remove their budgets and funding.)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. It'll probably go on into next year. It's gotten very complicated, with many tentacles.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jul 2017

The money laundering and all.

It takes time just to get financial records, then a lot of time to analyze them and track down info about them. And that's just one item.

Then they have to finalize everything, consult, come to conclusions.

Then they have to interview a lot of people, probably more than once, as new info comes to light.

It tooks a year and a half for Watergate, and that was pretty simple compared to this.

CrispyQ

(41,098 posts)
26. We don't have years. He'd better be working at light speed.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:36 PM
Jul 2017

All they need is to to keep making inroads into voter disenfranchisement & soon they will have their state governments majority. The dems lost the House for a decade after the 2010 census when district lines were redrawn. How much more will the dems lose in 2020? Our republic is in a dire situation.

flamingdem

(40,980 posts)
29. I agree. Seeing the reporting on this - I can't believe that they're not screaming
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:00 AM
Jul 2017

because we're about to enter a period of dictatorship with no recourse.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
13. No, he needs to be as thorough as possible, and act according to the law.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

And, he needs to be prepared for any political eventuality, as I'm sure he and every investigator knows.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
17. Yeah, I'd appreciate some speed: I'm 70 & would like to go out in a sweet twilight state
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jul 2017

Grammy23

(6,131 posts)
23. I hope the people involved in the investigation...Specifically Mueller....has a plan if tRump goes
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:15 PM
Jul 2017

ballistic on this whole mess. It appears that tRump might be starting to crack under the strain. Things have not turned out the way he wanted and he seems to be cracking up. I suspect there will be few tears shed for him but we all need to hope that there is a plan in place for when tRump falls completely apart. I think it could be fast. The investigation is picking up speed, too, so things could be coming to a head sooner than we thought.

What a time to be alive! I watched as Watergate unfolded but who knew I'd get to see something bigger than THAT? As scary and uncertain as this is, we are seeing history like few others have seen it. Live on TV, right in our living room. 😳😜😵

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