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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:13 PM Jul 2017

Adam Schiff proposes Constitutional Amendment to end Citizens United





I don't expect this to go anywhere with Republicans controlling Congress and most States, but I love that he's actually proposing this. The money poured into campaigns is destroying Democracy.

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Adam Schiff proposes Constitutional Amendment to end Citizens United (Original Post) OliverQ Jul 2017 OP
This Achilleaze Jul 2017 #1
Good!! Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #2
will be interesting to see which and if any democrats opose Kathy M Jul 2017 #25
It is sad (and frustrating)when you think how little dems can do these days! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #3
I agree, but it won't always be that way. It is amazing how quickly things can change in the old Nitram Jul 2017 #20
You mean it would describe money as property Warpy Jul 2017 #4
Or that a panel of justices would recognize the privileges of corporations Volaris Jul 2017 #18
Tell me why superpatriotman Jul 2017 #5
I ask myself that a lot... LakeArenal Jul 2017 #9
What Constitutional amendments do you think we need? brer cat Jul 2017 #21
You are WAAAAY to logical!!! George II Jul 2017 #22
I wonder if it might be considered spamming brer cat Jul 2017 #26
Because they'd sound like idiots BainsBane Jul 2017 #28
YES TeapotInATempest Jul 2017 #6
excellent ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #7
This needs to happen. XRubicon Jul 2017 #8
K&R 2naSalit Jul 2017 #10
Schiff continues to serve the public admirably. A straight arrow. American. byronius Jul 2017 #11
Kick! UCmeNdc Jul 2017 #12
Corporationi owned republicans, you mean. ffr Jul 2017 #13
He also did this in 2015... PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #14
Bravo! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #15
I belong to a group "We the People" polmaven Jul 2017 #16
He's becoming the go-to guy if you want something done. Kablooie Jul 2017 #17
This is what needs to happen leftinalabama Jul 2017 #19
I saw this in his tweeter feed earlier. ananda Jul 2017 #23
This should have been done a long time ago Kathy M Jul 2017 #24
Would this apply to MichMary Jul 2017 #27
Sure ... Union campaign contributions are a drop in teh bucket compared to corporate ones mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #34
So he is going to run for President. BainsBane Jul 2017 #29
He has my vote. TryLogic Jul 2017 #37
Hell yes. Politics has BECOME big business... VOX Jul 2017 #30
Thank you, Rare Rep with Alice11111 Jul 2017 #31
I wish he were my senator. He's been a standout this year. Hard worker. Bold. Outspoken.nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #32
What kind of deplorable would be against getting money out of politics? oasis Jul 2017 #33
Here is Theodore Roosevelt on corporate campaign contributions Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2017 #35
Dig this.....shitcher pants time Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #36
So many Democrats are stepping up. lark Jul 2017 #38
K. R. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #39
Wonderful - It should be called the Anti-Roberts Amendment...the correct and rational thing to do c-rational Jul 2017 #40

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
25. will be interesting to see which and if any democrats opose
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:05 PM
Jul 2017

I hope this does make it for a vote , would be god to see how everyone votes

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
20. I agree, but it won't always be that way. It is amazing how quickly things can change in the old
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jul 2017

democracy.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. You mean it would describe money as property
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jul 2017

and speech as belonging only to individual, living human beings?

Funny, the founders seemed to thing that sort of thing is common sense. They failed to anticipate Republicans.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
18. Or that a panel of justices would recognize the privileges of corporations
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jul 2017

To be on equal footing with the Rights that they fought, died, and got people killed for.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
5. Tell me why
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jul 2017

Democrats aren't proposing Constitutional amendments on a daily basis?

At least then the message gets out there.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
9. I ask myself that a lot...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jul 2017

If anything else it draws the line between the choices people have.

Nothing wrong with a party that has a wish list that helps people not pockets.
Nothing wrong with advertising what Democrats stand for. They always says candidates don't run on the issues because of all the mud slinging. Okay, then talk about them now.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
21. What Constitutional amendments do you think we need?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jul 2017

There have been 33 proposed and 27 ratified since 1789, and you think we now need another one DAILY?

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
28. Because they'd sound like idiots
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:40 AM
Jul 2017

For starters. You do realize they have actual jobs to do in congress? They aren't responsible for entertaining you.

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
6. YES
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:37 PM
Jul 2017

Thank you, Rep. Schiff. I know it won't go anywhere - at least for now - but we need our elected officials to start acknowledging and fighting against the deleterious effects of money on our democratic process.

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
7. excellent
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:13 PM
Jul 2017

let's get the rest of the Democrats on board and push this! Give people a reason to vote them in in 2018!

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
16. I belong to a group "We the People"
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 05:19 PM
Jul 2017

which has been working for a few years to do the same thing. It has chapters in several states across the country. My chapter is currently working with our State representatives to "sponsor" the bill...It will be going to the Congress and then back to the states. It is a long and tedious process, but we intend to keep at it.

leftinalabama

(30 posts)
19. This is what needs to happen
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jul 2017

He should seriously consider running for President. I always said that any politician who advocated for getting the money out of politics would get my vote.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
24. This should have been done a long time ago
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jul 2017

I hope it does get overturned

Elections should only have a set amount and fair time

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
34. Sure ... Union campaign contributions are a drop in teh bucket compared to corporate ones
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:06 AM
Jul 2017

And the massive one's coming from billionaires.

If we have to compromise in this way, I would (with regret) acquiesce. It's still a net-win for our side.

Besides just limits, we also need WAY more transparency, along with tougher laws/penalties.

Also very importantly we need for there to be no more getting around the limits by allowing corporations and billionaires to give unlimited money to 'special interest SuperPACS' ... which is really just an indirect way to promote candidates ... by promoting their 'agenda' or attacking their opponents ... instead of giving to their campaigns personally. Serious bullshit loophole right there that needs to end.

Then we need a serious push for public financing of all elections and a limit on their length/how long before an election they can start.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
31. Thank you, Rare Rep with
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 01:23 AM
Jul 2017

Cajones.

These things take years. Most people, even Trumpsters, are tired of money in politics. This might work.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
35. Here is Theodore Roosevelt on corporate campaign contributions
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:15 AM
Jul 2017

All contributions by corporations to any political committee or for any political purpose should be forbidden by law; directors should not be permitted to use stockholders' money for such purposes; and, moreover, a prohibition of this kind would be, as far as it went, an effective method of stopping the evils aimed at in corrupt practices acts. Not only should both the National and the several State Legislatures forbid any officer of a corporation from using the money of the corporation in or about any election, but they should also forbid such use of money in connection with any legislation save by the employment of counsel in public manner for distinctly legal services.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
36. Dig this.....shitcher pants time
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:30 AM
Jul 2017

Conservatives are targeting 13 states, including Wisconsin, to pass the six more state resolutions necessary to trigger a constitutional convention


http://inthesetimes.com/article/20178/wisconsin-may-bring-koch-brothers-closer-to-constitutional-convention

Simon Davis-Cohen reported for In These Times in 2016 that a constitutional convention has long been a prize of corporate interest groups and states-rights advocates. While the Maine House rejected a convention proposal last week, 12 other states have recently applied to hold one. Combined with 16 states that passed resolutions during a conservative push in the 1980s, that brings the total to 28—just six short of the 34 needed to trigger the confab.

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Democracy in Chains

Read it

It's closer than you think

They have it all figured out, from microgerrymandering, to school boards, to textbooks, to ALEC, to Con con.....they're almost there; their plan is near completion

There!

lark

(23,091 posts)
38. So many Democrats are stepping up.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jul 2017

Schiff, Joe Kennedy, Kamala Harris. I love our progressive rising stars as well as the reliables like Franken, Warren, Sanders etc.

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
40. Wonderful - It should be called the Anti-Roberts Amendment...the correct and rational thing to do
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jul 2017

when faced with the idiocy of the a Supreme Court Citizen United Ruling. This should address the completely fictitious notion that our forefathers could believe that an international corporation such as GE could possibly have an equivalent voice as an individual.

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