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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShame on the Boy Scouts of America and their leaders to boo Hillary Clinton, how indecent.
Phoning all my family to stop the financial support for them and asking them to send letters to the leadership.
Evil wins when good people do nothing!
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Sneederbunk
(17,196 posts)
Teacheral
(33 posts)I am an Eagle Scout, from 1950. What has happened to Scouting? This behavior would not be tolerated in my day. Unfortunately it's a different day.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)he was flabbergasted. Unfortunately the BSA has moved quite a bit to the right in the years since you and he were scouts.
AllaN01Bear
(28,459 posts)it is ok for america to be rude again. not.
uponit7771
(93,464 posts)
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Don knows how to work a crowd
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)But, we are finally seeing who the GOP really is, BYA, etc.
Not patriots.
MLAA
(19,656 posts)
Beartracks
(14,299 posts)You can see it in print... but you SHOULD see it in action.
Sad day for the BSA.
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Chasstev365
(6,995 posts)rzemanfl
(31,077 posts)skylucy
(4,011 posts)
ismnotwasm
(42,663 posts)Just roll over-let Hillary take hit after hit, and scold her on the sly every fucking chance given.
Control-Z
(15,686 posts)this morning. (Though I did look up what he actually said. Still, if it wasn't an actual slight, it was a very sloppy statement on his part.) I'm so tired of Hillary being used as the national punching bag. It makes me so damn sad and angry. There should be an army of Democrats standing up for her but noone is. I feel like crying.
LoveMyCali
(2,045 posts)My admiration for this woman and the shit she puts up with on a near daily basis just keeps growing.
Wiseman32218
(291 posts)
ismnotwasm
(42,663 posts)It was sloppy. And for all "messaging" people-it be far from a profitable Democratic "message"
leftstreet
(38,731 posts)It's just unbelievable
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)I guess the Boy Scouts have cast their lot with tRumputin.
Good luck with donations in the future ya'll 
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)now that they are the Twitler youth.
riversedge
(79,144 posts)
dixiegrrrrl
(60,140 posts)One thing about Trump..he knows tv and how to use it, probably better than anyone else except Reagan.
So he used this opportunity, instead of talking about them, to talk about politics and bad mouth Hilalry, yet again.
TrollBuster9090
(6,113 posts)Position a dozen of his staffers in the crowd to 'start' the applause and cheers during the applause lines. If they did that here, it's disappointing that the Scouts would follow the applause cue, but not hard to understand. They're just kids following along. Although, you'd think that simpering asshole scoutmaster who was up on stage with them would know better than to play along.
Docreed2003
(18,707 posts)This act runs counter to everything the BSA is supposed to represent. Have "friendly, courteous, and kind" been dropped from the Scout Law???
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)I have always bragged about my time in the scouts, and what a positive influence on my life that it was.
They were some of the best times in my life.
It makes me want to puke....
Is our society really de-evolving this severely?
I am emotionally distraught, and possibly scarred...
Is there no good thing in this country that they will not smear their shit all over?
cilla4progress
(26,487 posts)you sound like you are in pain. Positive vibes across the interwebs to you.
Maybe take a time out from national politics? It helped me today. 
Docreed2003
(18,707 posts)My closest friends to this day were guys that I was in scouts with, a couple I've known since we were kids in cub scouts. My son is old enough to start cub scouts this fall, and this has me rethinking joining the group.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Docreed2003
(18,707 posts)riversedge
(79,144 posts)I need to see this on video.
Tony PosnanskiVerified account @tonyposnanski
The president insulted Barack Obama, a former Boy Scout, and the crowd cheered.
Link to tweet
Welcome to 2017.
6:26 PM - 24 Jul 2017
Doc_Technical
(3,732 posts)from their motto?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Now they've gone full Tr*mper. Fuck that entire organization.
FSogol
(47,510 posts)* The exceptions are they can do the flag ceremony at political events, but cannot appear in rallies or fundraisers.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)ETTD.
FSogol
(47,510 posts)
FakeNoose
(39,957 posts)It was the Boy Scout Jamboree which is a friendly get-together every 4 years in a different place each time.
These kids were used shamelessly by Cheeto who turned it into an opportunity for more press coverage for him.
Unfortunately these boys had no idea what was being done to them, but the adults knew.
Should have NEVER happened.
procon
(15,805 posts)They failed to do that, and instead chose to let that honorless man exploit the children they were supposed to be safeguarding. They made an oath and had one job, and it didn't require any feat of daring do or heroism to turn off Trump's mic and quietly remind him that he was speaking to children, not a campaign rally.
FakeNoose
(39,957 posts)This was spineless of the BSA organization.
Parents are calling and emailing the BSA headquarters to complain about it too.
There will be hell to pay on this one.
iamateacher
(1,114 posts)The leaders should have stepped in. A relative is a BS leader, and he told me if he had been there he would have gotten arrested for protesting the incident. What an example for these young men!
Justice
(7,242 posts)
panader0
(25,816 posts)The BSA will suffer from this.
Contact info: https://www.bsafoundation.org/about-us/foundation-contacts/
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I sent them a condemning note. I'm very good at that.
Pacifist Patriot
(25,185 posts)
BigmanPigman
(54,530 posts)I suppose they're following in their fathers' shoes (if their fathers are GOP fathers that is). Fux News would applaud them. Weren't the boy scouts finally getting out from their recent negative problems regarding pedophilia. That organization had better get their act together. Can you imagine the public outcry if the girl scouts booed the Donald and called him a pussy grabber and a poor loser.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Scouting is the youth program of the Mormon Church and is really big in Texas also.
I'm amazed that they have changed the rules recently. Robert Gates bears some credit for the positive changes in the program.
Kali
(56,585 posts)(shocking right?) and focusing on one of their in-house youth programs. Because there are no gay Latter Day Saints, right?
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)financial loss, no loss to the program.
Kali
(56,585 posts)I heard it from someone "connected." it fit with my experience around here because the local troops have been shrinking while the church members continue to multiply and build new churches and other infrastructure.
The LDS approach to scouting is different, they move from Boy Scout to venturer or varsity scout at 14. LDS is dropping the after 14. Boy Scout is still the LDS youth program through age 14.
Kali
(56,585 posts)I am not all that familiar with the structure of Boy Scouts.
gademocrat7
(11,784 posts)Chump has no sense of decency. What a petty evil man.
onlyadream
(2,247 posts)The freaking election is over, when the hell is he going to move on! What a freaking baby.
Maven
(10,533 posts)dalton99a
(91,784 posts)pdxflyboy
(905 posts)leftstreet
(38,731 posts)Seeing that a lot on Twitter right now
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)tblue37
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JHB
(37,897 posts)I note for the record that Trump is a resounding failure in every point of the Boy Scout Law:
A Scout is:
Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Now I hate them.
yardwork
(68,880 posts)
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)I used to be proud of my scouting background, but I won't stand for this slow shit. Deplorable. I'm packing up my metals tomorrow, and sending them back to national headquarters
Paladin
(32,199 posts)Make sure the scouts never get another penny from you, since their devolution to Hitler Youth seems about complete. And discourage any young family members from joining up.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)
bpj62
(1,062 posts)My boys are both in Scouting and the adult leadership never talks about politics to the boys. Where did this happen?
Beartracks
(14,299 posts)
DinahMoeHum
(23,319 posts)Forget it, he doesn't have the balls to talk with them in person.
hunter
(40,321 posts)It was always a very uneasy truce between the Mormon and Catholic Scouts.
Then Proposition Hate happened, and the right intolerant wing of both religious parties decided they were allies.
Totally radicalized my kids, nephews, and nieces. They had wonderful queer adult family in their lives. They refused that shit.
My youngest would pluck Prop H8 signs off people's lawns and bang on their doors to tell them their signs were offensive. Those sad people would close the door on him and he'd take their signs, throwing them in back of my little pickup truck. I did recycle the wire and plastic of the signs landing in my truck, and confess it was near hundred. (I'd taken a few signs myself, including a big 4X8 plywood sign, but not so in-your-face aggressively. Maybe I was as bad, but not anywhere so courageous.)
Worst I did was write a harsh letter to the Bishop. He wrote a mushy letter back claiming he was trying to "control" the dialogue.
Better than my mom who once got into a scratching slapping girl fight with a Bishop... scars of my own childhood... My biggest fear on my own Big Catholic Wedding night was that my mom or her mom would go Berserker. They did not. Worst that happened was my sister-in-law, before the wedding, asked if she could play the church organ and she played Queen as my gay brother in law and mom were decorating the church with flowers. The sister in charge asked "That's pretty, what is it?"
BigDemVoter
(4,674 posts)
malaise
(292,138 posts)This was offensive
mainer
(12,488 posts)They'll show the boys the right way to do it.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)paleotn
(21,379 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)sexist, bigot in the WH
Here is a link from the Hill on this story:
https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homenews/administration/343552-trump-cuts-loose-in-front-of-massive-crowd-at-boy-scouts-jamboree
Beartracks
(14,299 posts)... Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.
Oh, wait -- Did I leave on out?
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Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Atheists and agnostics are still prohibited. I'm an Eagle Scout and cannot participate in Scouting functions because for the grievous offense of not believing in a god, I am considered an inappropriate role model.
But when a cadre of disorganized red state rabble boos political celebrity... that's crossing the line.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)
yuiyoshida
(44,900 posts)
Raine
(31,072 posts) paleotn
(21,379 posts)tRump Scouts
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)
doc03
(38,775 posts)we can do it
(12,979 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)If you are like me and don't want the crappy cookies, you can buy a box or two and they will take them and donate to military personnel . Double donation IMO
A Brand New World
(1,162 posts)Boy Scout Law
A Scout is:
Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.
Read the above Boy Scout Law & tell me how the spectacle that occurred this evening was allowed to happen. Booing a former President, booing a former Secretary of State and former First Lady - how does that fit into the Boy Scout Law? My husband is a former Cub and Boy Scout, my son is a former Cub Scout, Boy Scout and Eagle Scout, my grandsons are currently Cub Scouts and I served as a Cub Scout Den Leader. Never in my imagination could I envision the Boy Scout organization condoning such disrespect to our country’s leaders. I have regularly donated to the Boy Scouts but no more. You will never see another penny from me and I will be talking with my son about my grandsons being a part of Boy Scouting.
Initech
(107,219 posts)
Beartracks
(14,299 posts)Even back in 2013...
https://russianreport.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-boy-scouts-of-america-should-move-to-russia/
"Apparently out of step in a country that has embraced political correctness and intent on lunging ineptly into socialism, the Boy Scouts and the USA are clearly at odds."
"This is a country where the president wrestles with lions and shoots big game in the forest. He doesn’t need to fabricate stories about shooting skeet."
(I hope that's not a "bad" link. I'm not familiar with the site. But it sure is hard to tell the author apart from any number of Republican talking heads in THIS country.)
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JohnnyLib2
(11,304 posts)
as an Honor Guard. There was minor grumbling (among we Kennedy supporters) but being courteous was strictly enforced.
Today's episode is disgusting, a true downgrading--and ever so reminiscent of Hitler's Youth.
Jack-o-Lantern
(1,018 posts)The very first day I was made fun of, taunted, and made to feel unwelcomed.
My first day was my last day.
I now see them as a bunch of organized young hoodlums under the guise of “God & Country” and all that other crap they profess.
They are nothing more than a youthful gang of homophobic little big shots who sicken me.
Fuck them and their Trumpism.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)
33taw
(3,283 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)that is in every form and everywhere in the USA. The BSA has NEVER gone into national politics...
Too stupid beyond words...sickening....
AllyCat
(18,454 posts)They did not ask for the orange menace to get installed in the WH. I don't blame people for not wanting to support Scouting after this.
33taw
(3,283 posts)hueymahl
(2,887 posts)Direct your anger at Trump. The kids are aged 11 to 18 and likely have no idea about politics. And here you have the president of the united states taking advantage of their natural respect for the leader of our country, egging them on and using his speaking skills honed over many years.
There are justified reasons to have issues with BSA. And maybe it was a mistake to invite him to speak. But it is a long-standing tradition to invite the president to speak, and the vast majority of presidents have accepted, including Obama (he attended via live video).
A lot of you are taking it out on the kids. Remember, virtually everyone on this board is hyper political. These kids have no clue.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,155 posts)The majority of them know better, or at least should know better. If they don't, the BSA needs to examine its curriculum.
I understand getting caught up in the moment. The Jamboree is an amazing event. Unfortunately, bad things happen when impressionable people in uniform forget themselves at a large event and go along with what a leader is doing.
hueymahl
(2,887 posts)Kids are impressionable. This was the president of the united states (as much as it pains me to type this). There was some booing. In a way, I am impressed they were paying enough attention to even know when to boo. But I would be shocked if more than 1% of them had any context to be able to understand what they were booing about and why. All they know the fucking PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES was badmouthing someone and inviting the masses to go along with his (as we know, but they don't, bat-shit crazy) rhetoric.
And yes, bad things happen when impressionable people in uniform forget themselves at a large event and go along with what a leader is doing. That is the tragedy of this. The tragedy that Donald fucking Trump exposed himself to these kids. Not that some 13 yo kids did something stupid.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,155 posts)I do hope a lot of leaders, parents and volunteers do some very deep and serious soul-searching in the coming days and have frank discussions with their sons.
YDogg
(6,683 posts)The BSA realized what a PR nightmare this could be and appealed to the Scouts and leaders to remain civil:
"Decorum - As a unit leader or staff member, you can help make the president’s visit a success by ensuring that any reactions to the president’s address are, as we state in our Scout Law, friendly, courteous, and kind. This includes understanding that chants of certain phrases heard during the campaign (e.g. “build the wall,” “lock her up”) are considered divisive by many members of our audience, and may cause unnecessary friction between individuals and units. Please help us ensure that all Scouts can enjoy this historical address by making sure that your troop members are respectful not only of the president, but of the wide variety of viewpoints held by Scouts and Scouters in the audience tonight."
It's pathetic that the BSA would even feel compelled to say that, but nobody has any illusions about what an imbicile we have as president. More here on the pre-event notice, including the source of that quote: http://www.summitbsa.org/details-presidential-visit-monday
Trump brings everyone down.
haele
(15,017 posts)I do know from seeing a snippet on the news that Drumpf was flashing the White Supremacist's "WO" handsign while he was there, though I imagine by now, it's probably habit.
Microphones at televised events are misleading; if there were 10 - 20 staffers were standing by the cameras, it could seem as if the whole crowd was cheering and booing when in fact, it might have only been a few. Just enough so the Drumpf can re-watch his speech on the networks and believe he was the Superstar of the event.
Haele
Pacifist Patriot
(25,185 posts)I disagree that most of them would not understand about what and why they were booing. I currently have three boys in the age range you mention and all of them and all of their friends are remarkably politically aware. My job also requires me to keep up with generational research and Millennials and Gen-Z are way more plugged in than most people realize. My guess is that of those who booed, quite a few knew exactly what they are doing and why.
That being said, even adults get swept into crowd moods at a large event so I don't think it is fair to judge the boys by a different standard. I agree with you there.
Hands down the worst decision was to invite an admitted sexual assaulter and obvious racist to address the Jamboree, even if he is the President (pains me to type that too). I don't care if it is a tradition. The people who extended the invitation could have predicted this and broken with that tradition.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)hueymahl
(2,887 posts)18 YOs are no longer active scouts. The vast majority of the KIDS (and they are kids) attending the jamboree are 16 or younger.
a kennedy
(35,181 posts)donating ANY financial contributions to the BS and will tell my family not to contribute as well. What a horrible, horrible thing to do. The BSOA should apologize to Barack for this buffoon's lack of class.
neeksgeek
(1,240 posts)I emailed them to complain. The adult leaders of my troop would have chastised us if we booed a former president or a presidential candidate. Or anyone, really. We would have been told it was against the Scout Law.
If the BSA doesn't denounce this, they might as well get it over with and rename themselves Trump Youth.
As an adult I'm not an enormous fan of the Boy Scouts, but this is really too much.
A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent... Trump is none of these!
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Every scout family I've ever known are RW/Xian assholes.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Maybe where your from they discriminate but I was a cub scout then boy scout. And religion was not pushed on anyone, I came from a family where after a lot of discussions It was MY decision to go to church or not. I reached the rank of life in boy scouts, One step from eagle, And never did I get any shit for not being religious. It just wasn't a big deal at all, Ive kept many friendships from boy scouts, I tend to think the boys at the jamboree where just going along with the adults clapping.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Neil Armstrong said hello from space to the scouts, Little did I know that in a short year and a half I would be in the military. Seems like a thousand years ago..........................
raccoon
(32,180 posts)stopbush
(24,783 posts)Is that not true?
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,359 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And swear fealty to imaginary red and blue lines on a map as well... but our bias tends to justify that bit of imagination as somehow more real than other bit of imagination, hence our implicit acceptance of it.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)We were caught up in to many other issues, So NO Mr stopbush, I found it not to be true even though our meetings were at a very hardcore local country church. Never even met the pastor there to the best of my memory. And my family and myself were most definitely atheists, Before we were even aware of a name for being completely neutral either way in religion.
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath the member declares, “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law.” The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the educa- tion of the growing members. No matter what the religious faith of the members may be, this fundamental need of good citizenship should be kept before them. The Boy Scouts of America, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that the home and the organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life.
Clause 4. Only persons willing to subscribe to these declarations of principles shall be entitled to certificates of leadership in carrying out the Scouting program.
Source: Charter and Bylaws of the BSA, Article X: Policies, Dec 2015
BTW - the BSA went to court in 2000 to defend their right to discriminate against atheists, gays and whoever else they may wish to discriminate against. The court found that as a private organization, the BSA could discriminate against anyone they pleased. They have continued to discriminate.
End of story.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)They only recently relaxed their discrimination against gay and trans scouts. They still discriminate against atheist scouts.
AllyCat
(18,454 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,674 posts)Horse with no Name
(34,202 posts)Albeit a large organization, I am planning on requesting that they suspend all financial support because of this.
I actually believe they will.
Myrddin
(329 posts)rlegro
(342 posts)I long ago disowned the BSA, after it made one embarrassing social policy decision after another. Even after it tried to right itself, the organization listed on, with the ballast of poor choices past. And here we go again.
Where is the BSA's own loyalty to its own principles, loyalty not to one imperious emperor-in-waiting, but to our democracy and to the once-unassailable values of fair play and justice for all. Shame on any BSA leader local or national or doesn't denounce this sorry display from Trump on down through the organization's "leadership" ranks.
What are we teaching these young boys? To be crass and cynical when they grow up, that's what.
blue-wave
(4,810 posts)I thought at one time they were attempting to raise well balanced young men. Not any more. They are a vile hate mongering group in my book.
Hekate
(100,131 posts)Absolutely frightening.
A lot of the men in my family grew up in the BSA, and were leaders. My sister's husband kept his Unitarian-affiliated group going all through the gay ban, flew a rainbow flag at the Jamboree in defiance of the bigots, was told to remove it, but stayed with the Scouts until it was finally over.
Well, that's over. Turning the BSA into the fucking Hitler Jugend -- no.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)A PR campaign to nullify Trump's vicious attacks to her Reputation.
Progressive dog
(7,564 posts)has any decency, they should immediately issue a statement about the inappropriateness of that spectacle.
The National Boy Scouts of Americas' policy on participation in political events is:
Uniformed unit members or leaders may participate in flag ceremonies at political events and may lead Pledge of Allegiance; however, they should retire after the ceremony and NOT remain on the speakers' platform or in a conspicuous location where television viewers could construe their presence as an endorsement or symbol of support.
In addition, photos of candidates or Scouts in uniform or BSA marks and logos are NOT allowed in political materials of any kind.
The Boy Scouts of America does not endorse any political candidate. Care must be taken to not make implications that we do.
PA Democrat
(13,417 posts)for young men and boys.
I read some of the "highlights" of Trump's speech and I will never buy another can of popcorn or any other fundraiser from the Boy Scouts. Trump's speech was a vile DISGRACE. Shame on the Boy Scouts.
Locrian
(4,523 posts)someone needs to photoshop a trump merit badge out of this....
The orange cheeto badge of bullying and temper tantrums...
alarimer
(17,146 posts)Fuck the Boy Scouts, that bigoted organization.
bucolic_frolic
(53,772 posts)Kids need heroes and values to look up to and believe in
Trust, loyalty, Scout's honor, service to fellow beings
Dragging raw politics into scouting is just crude
hueymahl
(2,887 posts)I feel bad for the BSA leadership. They are in a no-win situation and got fucked by one of the nastiest politicians on the planet. To politicize a boy scout speech? Simply disgusting.
Nitram
(26,928 posts)They don't even have good manners anymore.
riversedge
(79,144 posts)
Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)that they stood there and let spew that filth that I cannot find words to describe what I'm feeling. What happens to this country will lay at the feet of all republicans.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)Here is the transcript of yesterday's speech before the BSA Jamboree:
http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Mr.Dowling:
I imagine you are getting a ton of emails regarding the horrible speech Donald Trump gave at what was supposed to be a regular BSA event. Instead, Trump turned it into a rally for himself, with all the ugliness that implies. I understand there were 12 year old boys in that audience, who listened to the "president" of the United States tell them about a yacht party with the "hottest people in New York and hinting about things he could not tell them because of their youth. How SICK is that? He also encouraged them to boo Barak Obama, bragged about his obsession: crowd size, and very likely bored the kids to tears by bragging about his electoral college win and how great "his" economy is.
Boy Scouts of America needs to issue a statement condemning Trump's rants in the strongest possible terms. It has to be more than merely "distancing" from Trump's remarks.
It's also a teachable moment for the boys: if someone tells you to do something wrong, no matter how powerful, rich, etc. that person may be, do the honorable thing and resist.
Thank you. I look forward to the organization's statement.
Mr. Dowling's email: kevin.dowling@scouting.org
hueymahl
(2,887 posts)He took disgusting unimaginable advantage of the situation. The POTUS is the ceremonial head of the BSA. For 80 years, BSA has invited its ceremonial leader to speak. For 80 years those speeches have been non-political and focused on morality and the principals outlined by the scouts.
The fact that he spoke about partying on a yacht and alluded to an orgy in front of teens and pre-teens shocks even me, and I am one of the most jaded mother fuckers around.
I feel bad for BSA leadership. To not invite this POTUS would have been an overtly political act by a non-political organization. If they condemn the speech, they are again making a political statement. If they don't, assholes like us condemn them for not doing it. It is a no-win situation.
atreides1
(16,799 posts)Either let this stand, and show their cowardice...or condemn this speech and show courage!
By their silence they condone everything he said, regardless of whether they do or not, and the scouts who were present will come away with the belief that the BSA leadership were in agreement with what the President said!
12 and 13 year olds are impressionable, and they will follow their leaders for the most part...more so if their parents happen to be Trump supporters!
The BSA leadership, need to lead...anything less is just going along to get along!!!
SunSeeker
(57,433 posts)I can only assume he was a BSA exec. He basically gave the crowd permission to boo.
VigilantG
(374 posts)SunSeeker
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VigilantG
(374 posts)Rick Perry and Tom Price were there on stage too--all Eagle Scouts!
Jeff Sessions and Rex Tillerson were also Scouts but not in attendance. Tillerson was there last Friday for a ceremony for his service to the Boy Scouts of America. They dedicated a statue to him.
SunSeeker
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VigilantG
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Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)quitnesset
(70 posts)This was not unplanned; tRump is beginning to use organizations such as the Armed Forces and the Boy Scouts to get youth on board with the new fascism. It will come slowly at first, and then more and more frequently until it becomes "normal." His supporters will love it, and others will just try to ignore it until it is way too late and well past the time anything can be done about it. If people want to send a message immediately, they should stop contributing to the BSA, and encourage their sons to do something more worthwhile with their time. (posted by a former almost-Eagle Scout who remembers what a great organization it once was.)
niyad
(129,313 posts)truly surprised?
AllyCat
(18,454 posts)Two leaders, a cub, and a Boy Scout. We are considering pulling out of Scouting after yesterday. Kid at camp right now. Am so embarrassed after youth booing Obama and Clinton. POTUS is supposed to talk about the values of Scouting and how they align with American and human values. Yesterday was awful.
samnsara
(18,708 posts)...learning coding and robotics....just saying.
L. Coyote
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Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)I must have missed it.
MontanaMama
(24,605 posts)and did not get an actual person so I left a voicemail stating that as a business owner and private citizen I have supported the BSA for decades and unless and until I hear a public statement from the BSA admonishing the president for his statements and apologizing for their lack of appropriate response, they have received my last donation dollar. I also left my cell phone number if they'd like to hear it in person. Shame on them.
riversedge
(79,144 posts)that point. Whatever you say about McCain, it was a very decent thing for him to tell that women No mam-Obama is a decent family man (paraphase).