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The predicted Drumpt Reichstag fire will be (Original Post) kairos12 Jul 2017 OP
Its looking that way madokie Jul 2017 #1
No, it's "Wag the Dog." A true "Reichstag Fire" situation would be something The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2
Excellent point. I think he needs a war to Russia off the front pages. Wag the Drumpt. kairos12 Jul 2017 #4
A war will fire up the patriotic fervor CrispyQ Jul 2017 #14
Actually many historians think that Van De Lubbe was indeed responsible for the Reichstag fire. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #19
Draft dodger traitor TEB Jul 2017 #3
We'll never have a draft. That war would be a handful of guys, pushing buttons NightWatcher Jul 2017 #5
China will not be our friend if they unload this crap on them. People will sympathize with China and lunasun Jul 2017 #16
I don't think you understand the concept of a "Reichstag Fire." onenote Jul 2017 #6
Check the Korean War. Last time we were there that it involved China. That would bring back kairos12 Jul 2017 #8
War with NK? pdxflyboy Jul 2017 #7
Exactly. kairos12 Jul 2017 #9
How does trading nukes with the US benefit China? NobodyHere Jul 2017 #13
Will 100,000 dead South Koreans help Trump? Cicada Jul 2017 #10
Forbid this comes true TEB Jul 2017 #11
I think he'll try to set fire to the Reichstag NobodyHere Jul 2017 #12
Stock market might like it . Plenty of greedy republican cheers I suppose lunasun Jul 2017 #15
Neither he nor any of those around him PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #17
Oligarchs use wars or supposed wars gin up fear in the populace so they can cheyanne Jul 2017 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,658 posts)
2. No, it's "Wag the Dog." A true "Reichstag Fire" situation would be something
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jul 2017

that looked like an enemy had done it but it had really been done by your government. A "terror attack" on New York City perpetrated by government agents but made to look like ISIS did it would be a Reichstag Fire. A "Wag the Dog" situation would be starting an actual conflict to take attention away from a domestic problem. Striking North Korea to deflect from the Russia investigation would be wagging the dog. But it would be really, really dangerous.

CrispyQ

(36,439 posts)
14. A war will fire up the patriotic fervor
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:35 PM
Jul 2017

of a lot of people who are starting to question the Con. They will be back on board in a flash. It seems to always work. There's a contingent that thinks war makes us look strong.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,160 posts)
19. Actually many historians think that Van De Lubbe was indeed responsible for the Reichstag fire.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:26 PM
Aug 2017

Which was pretty much beside the point, because really what the Reichstag fire incident was all about was Nazi exploitation of an act of minor vandalism and using it as an excuse for an Nazi power grab and creation of an "enemy".

TEB

(12,840 posts)
3. Draft dodger traitor
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jul 2017

Yea false flag attack compliments of Kremlin I just hope mueller can move fast with treason or rico charges.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. We'll never have a draft. That war would be a handful of guys, pushing buttons
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jul 2017

And having hundreds of thousands die and a crisis on China's doorstep.

The Generals will not let him casually nuke NK.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
16. China will not be our friend if they unload this crap on them. People will sympathize with China and
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jul 2017

its problems not us who started it
Imo

onenote

(42,661 posts)
6. I don't think you understand the concept of a "Reichstag Fire."
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:27 PM
Jul 2017

Also, I'm guessing that what you think will happen is that a military strike on North Korea will result in an invasion of South Korea by North Korea and the US will have to send ground forces to South Korea to fight off North Korea.

Even assuming that is true, by the time a draft was reinstated and the first conscripts called, trained, and sent to South Korea, it would be too late.

kairos12

(12,850 posts)
8. Check the Korean War. Last time we were there that it involved China. That would bring back
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:31 PM
Jul 2017

the draft. Never mind Russia taking advantage of us being tied up in Korea and advance into the Baltic States. The Korean War would not be over quickly or easily.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
10. Will 100,000 dead South Koreans help Trump?
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

I'm not sure starting a war with huge death count among our allies will help him.

TEB

(12,840 posts)
11. Forbid this comes true
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

Think of it this way a conventional ground war we will chew the NKA apart. But after is when the former generals and soldiers still armed from NKA , it will be a holocaust in North Korea modern day war lords former NKA officers , with troops. And our troops will have to deal with it. tragic these fine people Americans Koreans will be killed over a fucking moron inability to comprehend this issue.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. Stock market might like it . Plenty of greedy republican cheers I suppose
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jul 2017

Congress won't have to do any of the shit they been saying for 8 yrs now

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
17. Neither he nor any of those around him
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jul 2017

are remotely competent enough to pull off anything like a Reichstag fire. Especially since a strike on North Korea wouldn't be at all comparable to the Reichstag fire. I mean, they might decide to attack NK, but it won't be made to look like someone else did it.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
18. Oligarchs use wars or supposed wars gin up fear in the populace so they can
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 08:10 PM
Jul 2017

more easily suspend civil rights, militarize the police and use Homeland security to round up opponents. I think that Trump will cook up something w/putin in Syria that he can use to consolidate power. Syria is nicely chaotic and it has been hard to tell who is the perpetrator of an attack. North Korea is too dangerous.

Trump knows that unless he can take total control of the country, his high crimes and misdemeanors will come to light and he will be disgraced. He's fighting for his life..

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