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Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:13 PM

Pierce: The Historical Significance of 'Cosmopolitan' as an Insult

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56782/stephen-miller-jim-acosta/

On Wednesday, for reasons known only to whatever critters inhabit the ravines and gullies of the presidential cortex, they trotted Miller out to talk about the administration's new proposal to limit legal immigration. Miller is not equipped to be the public face of a phony real estate scam, let alone the executive branch of the government of the United States. Jim Acosta of CNN asked him a question. It did not go well...

The way Miller leaned into the word "cosmopolitan" while answering Acosta has a long and ignoble history in 20th century authoritarianism, especially the anti-Semitic variety. During World War II, for example, the Soviet government under Stalin used to rail regularly at "rootless cosmopolitanism," especially in the arts. The Nazis were fond of tossing it around, too. There is no context in which Miller's use of the word against Acosta makes sense except as a historical signaling device.

Also, Miller doesn't know dick about Emma Lazarus and the Statue of Liberty. She wrote the poem, "The New Colossus," from which the famous lines on the Statue of Liberty's pedestal were taken in 1883 for the purpose of raising funds for … wait for it … the Statue of Liberty.

How do you put this uninformed goon in front of the camera? Jesus, these really are the fcking mole people.

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Reply Pierce: The Historical Significance of 'Cosmopolitan' as an Insult (Original post)
mcar Aug 2017 OP
madaboutharry Aug 2017 #1
dalton99a Aug 2017 #3
loyalsister Aug 2017 #6
Hekate Aug 2017 #31
BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #41
IronLionZion Aug 2017 #46
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #2
lostnfound Aug 2017 #4
hunter Aug 2017 #7
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #8
PatrickforO Aug 2017 #19
hunter Aug 2017 #24
blaze Aug 2017 #40
LeftInTX Aug 2017 #43
pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #18
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #20
Ninsianna Aug 2017 #52
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #53
Ninsianna Aug 2017 #54
DBoon Aug 2017 #27
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #33
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #34
AngryAmish Aug 2017 #5
Nay Aug 2017 #35
benld74 Aug 2017 #9
mcar Aug 2017 #10
benld74 Aug 2017 #11
lunasun Aug 2017 #26
Iggo Aug 2017 #29
TNNurse Aug 2017 #12
beam me up scottie Aug 2017 #13
mcar Aug 2017 #14
beam me up scottie Aug 2017 #15
mdbl Aug 2017 #16
SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #17
rpannier Aug 2017 #21
mcar Aug 2017 #22
vlyons Aug 2017 #23
Shandris Aug 2017 #25
pangaia Aug 2017 #28
ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #30
Hekate Aug 2017 #32
Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #36
Hekate Aug 2017 #42
Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #56
LeftInTX Aug 2017 #49
Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #55
ymetca Aug 2017 #48
niyad Aug 2017 #37
ouija Aug 2017 #38
niyad Aug 2017 #39
Hekate Aug 2017 #44
geretogo Aug 2017 #45
niyad Aug 2017 #47
xxqqqzme Aug 2017 #50
samnsara Aug 2017 #51
Lars39 Aug 2017 #57

Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:21 PM

1. The world is upside down

A Jewish man who trades in anti-Semitic tropes. His parents must be so proud.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:25 PM

3. No shit

The self-hatred is pretty evident

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:35 PM

6. He should meet the MO governor

2015 a republican sate auditor committed suicide because his primary opponents were beginning an anti-Semitic whisper campaign. He wasn't Jewish But his grandfather was and had told him enough about his experiences to make Tom Schweich sensitive to it.

2016 Republicans manage to nominate a former Democrat who also happens to be a reform Jew and win the governorship. Since elected, he has been Trump's protege. He's not driven by values or beliefs- only self promotion. So much so that he has enabled anti-Semitism and other bigotry himself with his enthusiastic forgiveness of bigots.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:59 AM

31. He is a schanda

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:20 PM

41. As must be his non-English speaking grandparents, from Poland, spinning in their graves n/t

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:47 PM

46. His family are liberal Jews

and his grandparents immigrated from Poland and Belarus. They probably didn't speak much English before coming here. He definitely hates himself and his people.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:24 PM

2. The GOP is slowly regressing.

Proving that, politically speaking, the theory of evolution is incorrect.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:28 PM

4. Eventually they will be crawling on all fours. Many already seem to be there already, for trump...nt

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:54 PM

7. The theory of evolution goes both ways.

Most parasites evolved from more complex species. They gradually lose the ability to produce for themselves what they are taking from their hosts.

Case in point: Dodder

wikipedia

Dodder has lost the ability to photosynthesize it's own food. It sucks its food out of others.

The similarity to Trump and his uber-wealthy supporters is pretty clear, don't you think?

As workers become more productive, the uber-wealthy take all the profits and then some, hording the money in ways that do not improve the lives of those who actually created the wealth.

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Response to hunter (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:12 PM

8. What a great reply.

And yes, the similarities become apparent. At least some parasites are examples of useful symbiosis.

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Response to hunter (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:22 PM

19. Exactly! Now you're talkin'

Down with the capitalist parasites!

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:37 PM

24. When certain taxes are high...

... various "captains of industry" are motivated to plow profits back into industry and business, increasing wages and raising living standards for all.

That's not Trump world.

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Response to hunter (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:11 PM

40. So rump is truly a doddering fool. nt

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Response to hunter (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:34 PM

43. Trump is infested with dodder

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:20 PM

18. think that started after lincoln w/ president johnson.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:26 PM

20. And eventually, the anti-slavery party

devolved into the party of open racism and economic slavery.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:58 PM

52. Didn't even really take that long.

By 1907, they were enacting eugenics laws to keep "undesirables" from procreating.

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Response to Ninsianna (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:12 PM

53. I had no idea.

Were these undesirables mainly non-white and non-European descended?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #53)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:23 PM

54. I stumbled on it recently.

Governor of Indiana, J. Frank Hanly.

I found this link that seemed to cover who they targeted. Seems like mostly the mentally ill and those who were incarcerated.

https://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/IN/IN.html

They don't specify race, but I'm thinking that the incarcerated populations were not that different than today.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:44 PM

27. We are all Devo!

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:57 AM

33. Devolution of RepubliCons




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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #33)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:02 PM

34. An excellent cartoon. eom

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:29 PM

5. "historic signalling device"

 

Yup, signalling those Bolsheviks.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:12 PM

35. It's not only a historic signaling device - it's a conservative religious signaling

device, in the form of the word "worldly" rather than "cosmopolitan." I've heard "worldly" in many conversations with RWers and it's never a compliment.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:23 PM

9. GOP is not present in WH anymore Reince was the last

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Response to benld74 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:28 PM

10. Regardless, Rs own this

The frog king is the head of the Republican party.

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Response to mcar (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:32 PM

11. No argument on that

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Response to benld74 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:30 PM

26. Sure everyone in the WH votes republican for thier local and state candidates

There are republicans in the WH. Only the GOP wants people to think otherwise

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Response to benld74 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:57 AM

29. Nuh-uh. They're all very true Scotsmen.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:34 PM

12. Trump is too stupid to understand this.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:42 PM

13. Anti-Semitism has made a roaring comeback in the past two years.

Unfortunately many people are unaware of some of these dog whistles so they don't get called out.

I recently saw the term Bolshevik used and I had to do a double take. No one else even seemed to notice.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:43 PM

14. And Miller is Jewish, so I've read

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Response to mcar (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:45 PM

15. I've seen that too, it's unfathomable.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:11 PM

16. How do you put this uninformed goon in front of the camera?

He was put there by a bigger goon.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:14 PM

17. Shouldn't POTUS be required to pass the test immigrants take to become citizens,

I don't think he could pass that test or speak English well enough to pass a screening process.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:39 PM

21. Miller is a bad night club comic who tries to offend everyone

He's a failure at this job, but he is befitting the role in this misadministration

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Response to rpannier (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:43 PM

22. He is one creepy dude

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:22 PM

23. There's a word for it - Kakistocracy

From wikipedia

A kakistocracy (English pronunciation: /kækɪsˈtɑkɹəsi/) is a state or country run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word was coined as early as the 1600s. It was also used by English author Thomas Love Peacock in 1829.


Use it often and make it go viral.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #23)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:24 PM

25. Update it for modern times and link it to bad thought.

 

Kekistocracy. A direct response to 'Kekistan', and also a suitably accurate definition in regards to that 'august' gathering of ne'er-do-wells.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:41 AM

28. Miller.. poster boy for a xenophobic, bigoted authoritarian.


Same with CBP types... I cross the US border fairly often.. like maybe 12 times/year. While I am not nervous about it, my heart rate probably DOES increase a few points.

I was about to return from Portugal last week when I heard a new rule for 'devices." ( Weird word, isn't it) I did stop to think for a minute or two.. "Do I have a problem." No I didn't, but. Just that the thought would even cross my mind in these "uncertain, troubled times." LOL

BW, if you travel overseas a bit. DO, Do get GLOBAL ENTRY..I went through US customs in about 1 minute and 30 seconds. The 1 minute part because on one of the Kiosks that scans passports and fingerprints, the fingerprint gizmo didn't work. :>)

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:59 AM

30. He's a squeaky bigoted piece of shit

I think he knew what he was saying all right

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:25 AM

32. I caught that, too, and it floored me. "Rootless cosmopolite" goes back way before Stalin, iirc...

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It is an anti-Semitic insult rooted in the old "blood and soil" identity that plagued Europe for untold centuries, and was a backhanded way of pointing out that Jews, who were not legally allowed to own land, congregated in cities.

When people start waxing poetic and misty-eyed about the Fatherland and the Motherland, they are talking about who "really" belongs and who, by Heaven, does not. It's only a short step from that sweet sentimentality to a vodka-fueled pogrom.

I was furious when Dubya introduced "the Homeland" into the American lexicon, because while the earliest line of my family got here about 1620, we've been well-endowed by later immigrants all along the way. This is America, land of immigrants. My family is proud of that -- I used to believe my country was too.

Who handed "Homeland" to Dubya? I really don't think he has that kind of malice in him. I don't think he knows the company it keeps. The term "Homeland Security" makes my flesh crawl.

But I know who does have that kind of knowing malice: Steve Bannon and the alt-right, and now that self-hating Jew, Stephen Miller.



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Response to Hekate (Reply #32)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:19 PM

36. Interesting. Thanks.

I've read that many who've known Miller from high school and college describe him as very intelligent and an extremely fervent proponent of white nationalism, and the type who would have studied past movements with an eye toward appropriating their tactics and language.

How, though, does a Jew, consider himself white?

I saw a documentary on the KKK while back in which some of the klanners yammering on about white superiority clearly had some non-white blood flowing through their veins. I don't understand people.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:23 PM

42. "How does a Jew consider himself white?" Say what?

I'll ask my hazel-eyed husband who sunburns easily. He's silver haired now, but as a child he had a mop of golden curls.

His dad looked so Polish he was able to melt into the Belgian Underground for the duration of WWII, travelling on missions with false papers.

His mom had the ethnic look, but was also hazel-eyed and fair-skinned, with dark hair. But she didn't blend in.

It depends. The Diaspora has been on for 2,000 years? Jews settled everywhere. They've been in Europe a long time, and there's bound to be some drift.

I grew up in Hawai'i, and was never allowed to forget I was a haole. The composition of my ethnic background was irrelevant: I was a haole. The few Jewish kids in my school were lumped into the same category. I didn't blend in to the local population, and neither did they. When I moved to California I was given a different label, again informing me that my actual background was irrelevant: Anglo. (I really never saw people who looked like me outside my immediate family until I visited Boston in my mid-30s. We look like our Irish ancestors who came in the middle of the 19th century, apparently a persistent ethnic stamp.)

In Europe, my husband and his family were never allowed to forget they were Jewish; when they moved to New York City, I think it was simply taken for granted among such a large population. Moving to California in 1964 was a bit of a shock: he was informed that he was an Anglo, too.

People judge others by so many things. I'm still glad I grew up where I did, where casual intermarriage was the norm. It shaped my worldview forever.


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Response to Hekate (Reply #42)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:45 PM

56. I guess I didn't express myself clearly.

I was referring to the fact that white supremacist types tend be very picky about who qualifies as "white." I remember when a racist relative of mine was claiming that his intense hatred for Obama could not mean he was racist because Obama wasn't even black.

I said, Oh really? So, he could be a KKK member if he wanted?

Well, no, but...

Right. Also, interesting that a lot of people seem to use the N word to describe a guy who's not black.

I guess I'm not really sure what the standards are, but I've always gotten the distinct impression that most white supremacists don't consider Jews white. So, for a Jew to be a White supremacist, like Miller, just seems so bizarre to me. That's what I meant.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:46 PM

49. Are you confusing white with Nordic?

Was the documentary you saw on the KKK recent? They have changed their recruiting recently. For instance, they are no longer anti-Catholic.

I'm Armenian and am not blessed with Kardashian dark features. I went to high school with plenty of German, Scandinavian, and Polish kids who were darker than me. I envied their tans.

Cary Grant is darker than me.

John Boehner is darker than me. Here is Boehner's high school picture. (Unlike Trump his tan is not fake. I hate it when they accuse Boehner of a fake tan!!!) And a picture of his family. He is the tan boy on the grass. My son who is 1/2 Mexican has the same coloring as Boehner.

(I can't believe I'm talking about this on DU)



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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #49)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:28 PM

55. I don't know really! I am just going by the fact that

it seems it you have a drop of not "pure" white blood in you, the people who think "white" is best, don't think you're white.

But then, two of my sisters from my English/Irish family married Italians, and their spouses, even in the winter, have darker skin than Boehner. Yet, I'm sure bigoted Italians certainly think of themselves as "white."

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:40 PM

37. soooo, cosmopolitan, worldly, intellectual, are insults? dog whistles to the great

unwashed. goddess, how far we have devolved.

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Response to niyad (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:54 PM

38. Miller

He looks like in was in charge of a Holocaust Center during a previous life. Seriously, put a swastika on the motherfucker...

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Response to ouija (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:55 PM

39. and I understand he has jewish heritage. self-loathing?

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Response to niyad (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:37 PM

44. See my post above. It's specifically anti-Semitic because Jews were not "rooted" in "the land"...

...which they were not allowed to own in any case, being non-Christian Christ-killers and all that. So rural folks like Tevye notwithstanding, Jews were more likely to be found in cities. Or something.

Cities = untrustworthy city folk = strange ideas = well, people who did not vote for Donald Trump. The alt-right really plays in this "real America" versus "the big cities" shit.

I encountered "rootless cosmopolites" in some Russian story or novel I read decades ago. It took me ages to parse out the term and understand it.

As for Miller, he is a self-hating Jew with dead eyes.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:42 PM

45. Since Trump took office I feel like I am on the set of the Twilight Zone. Completely other worldly.

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Response to geretogo (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:52 PM

47. I keep thinking I am in a nightmare and will wake up --SOON

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:46 PM

50. With miller's crack about the

'poem added later', I thought 'Oh, no another one who is history ignorant and making shit up.'

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:47 PM

51. hope millers is on kellys short shit list

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:40 PM

57. Foyle's War, First season, second episode has an example of cosmopolitan being used.

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Really jumped out at me on second viewing. Also calling the BBC fake news.

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