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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJan 21 2017 largest protest Ever. And woman now must subjugate themselves for a party
to potentially pick up some votes.
My oh my there is some mighty fear in this country from all angles watching women exercise their agency.
That power women harnessed is so frightening to those in power they must kick it in the teeth.
But ah hell no! You can kick and we will rise. The kicks are our energy source.
Keep kicking us. It reminds us to fight and kick back.
We are not going backwards. We move forward together!!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)We are the majority of voters and activists. They better not forget that.
boston bean
(36,181 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Not by a long shot. House races are local.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Appealing to "activists" in Nebraska isn't a winning strategy.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Tolerate going back. No Dem should get backing if they are fighting against our civil rights. Don't give a shot what they fee personally, what they can't do is fight against the freedom of the majority of the party.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)I'm the farthest thing from a Blue Dog and I am a strong advocate for moving the party platform to the left, probably much farther left than most on DU. That being said, I don't equate supporting a less than liberal Democrat in a house race where the numbers say he or she can win with abandoning our values as a party. If we have no power we have no power to protect any of our core values; we have no power to set the agenda; we have no power to pass a budget that helps the poor and improves our communities. Our power comes from being the majority party. We have to get a majority, one district at a time. The formula for winning in California is not the same as the formula is Nebraska.
If a member votes to make a Democrat Speaker they can "fight" us on individual issues all the want. The speaker decides what gets a vote and what doesn't.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Rights issue. Don't kid yourself it's going to blow over.
This will hurt the party.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Of course we "court" those candidates. Otherwise we lose those districts. We want a candidate that can win. The idea that this will change the party platform is nuts. We have to have a comprehensive plan to compete everywhere, not just major cities in blue states.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I think you are missing the bigger point, sir.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I'll never forget the Women's March. It was a true turning point, for us. I remember standing, then walking slowly, on a cold January day. Apparently it meant nothing to many, including many so-called "progressives." Unbelievably, we're supposed to give up our rights for the good of the party.
Oh, right. Some of these same people think protests are useless.
boston bean
(36,181 posts)irisblue
(32,794 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,368 posts)If anyone is stupid enough to mess around with women's rights at that level they are in for a rude awakening. I guess they forget the 70s and what brought us here in the first place. Younger women may get into resisting and politics for the first time and it won't stop with just wearing pink hats and attending a protest or two.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Elections are won by appealing to the majority of voters in each particular district.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)who will win the district. And sometimes that incumbent holds some positions with which we do not agree.
So do we abstain from voting?
Do we challenge the incumbent and hope for a win with a new candidate?
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)unless the majority of the voters in your district is men.
if so, I get it.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)I think you are living in a bubble.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I do not give a f*ck about that.
and I sure as hell do not appreciate you mansplaining to me about women.
Women are not a single voting block.
mcar
(42,179 posts)Along with our POC brethren. It is a fools errand to ignore us.
DoodAbides
(74 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,070 posts)any more than supporting segregation is negotiable. Democrats don't support segregated schools. Democrats do support same-sex marriage and trans people using public bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity. All of these are civil rights issues; nobody dares suggest that it would be OK for the DCCC to fund a candidate who came out in favor of segregation, or against same-sex marriage or gender-identified bathrooms. Why is it OK to support - more importantly, to fund - candidates who don't fully support women's right to control their own bodies?
I appreciate that in some districts a pro-choice position might be a tough sell; people in those districts are going to have to decide for themselves whether they will support an anti-choice Democrat vs. an anti-choice Republican. But that's not the same as the national party funding and supporting such a candidate, contrary to the pro-choice platform that the party has adopted for years.
TheBlackAdder
(28,028 posts).
45% of women voted against the ERA.
A solid and unwavering 45% of women voted for paternalism and for GOP matters for 40 years.
Nothing changes this.
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Being Pro-Choice DOES NOT IMPACT A THING.
These women who vote paternalistic, and the males in their households, generally vote conservative no matter what a Democrat offers, because they look at the entire party as being Pro-Choice and anti-"Religious Freedom." They follow their church's directives.
Most are doing so because of Orthodox, Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal or Charismatic influenced reasoning.
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ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I'd be spending most of my time in prison for constantly kicking men in the balls.
SCantiGOP
(13,841 posts)No message