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Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:16 PM

Jan 21 2017 largest protest Ever. And woman now must subjugate themselves for a party

to potentially pick up some votes.

My oh my there is some mighty fear in this country from all angles watching women exercise their agency.

That power women harnessed is so frightening to those in power they must kick it in the teeth.

But ah hell no! You can kick and we will rise. The kicks are our energy source.

Keep kicking us. It reminds us to fight and kick back.

We are not going backwards. We move forward together!!

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Reply Jan 21 2017 largest protest Ever. And woman now must subjugate themselves for a party (Original post)
boston bean Aug 2017 OP
bettyellen Aug 2017 #1
boston bean Aug 2017 #6
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #8
bettyellen Aug 2017 #10
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #15
bettyellen Aug 2017 #17
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #18
bettyellen Aug 2017 #19
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #24
bettyellen Aug 2017 #27
Raine1967 Aug 2017 #21
NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #2
boston bean Aug 2017 #3
irisblue Aug 2017 #4
BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #7
guillaumeb Aug 2017 #9
Raine1967 Aug 2017 #22
DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #25
Raine1967 Aug 2017 #26
mcar Aug 2017 #11
DoodAbides Aug 2017 #12
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #13
TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #14
ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #16
SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #20
Raine1967 Aug 2017 #23
musette_sf Aug 2017 #28
Not Ruth Aug 2017 #29

Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:19 PM

1. Dem men owe us their full throated support, not his hand wringing crap.

 

We are the majority of voters and activists. They better not forget that.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:23 PM

6. Agreed. We are where the resistance is at. Not their capitulation to rw conservative toxic brew.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:40 PM

8. We are not the majority in red leaning districts.

 

Not by a long shot. House races are local.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:49 PM

10. We are the majority of Dem voters- and vast majority of activists and volunteers.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:16 PM

15. You realize that there are places where Democrats are not in the majority, right?

 

Appealing to "activists" in Nebraska isn't a winning strategy.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:02 PM

17. I'm talking about what Dems nationally need to keep in mind- women are at the front and we won't

 

Tolerate going back. No Dem should get backing if they are fighting against our civil rights. Don't give a shot what they fee personally, what they can't do is fight against the freedom of the majority of the party.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:17 PM

18. There is no such thing as a national race for the House of Representatives

 

I'm the farthest thing from a Blue Dog and I am a strong advocate for moving the party platform to the left, probably much farther left than most on DU. That being said, I don't equate supporting a less than liberal Democrat in a house race where the numbers say he or she can win with abandoning our values as a party. If we have no power we have no power to protect any of our core values; we have no power to set the agenda; we have no power to pass a budget that helps the poor and improves our communities. Our power comes from being the majority party. We have to get a majority, one district at a time. The formula for winning in California is not the same as the formula is Nebraska.

If a member votes to make a Democrat Speaker they can "fight" us on individual issues all the want. The speaker decides what gets a vote and what doesn't.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:26 PM

19. The DNC is talking about courting anti-choice candidates, and that is wrong. Period. It's a civil

 

Rights issue. Don't kid yourself it's going to blow over.
This will hurt the party.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:04 PM

24. If they are candidates that can win in a district where a liberal can't win

 

Of course we "court" those candidates. Otherwise we lose those districts. We want a candidate that can win. The idea that this will change the party platform is nuts. We have to have a comprehensive plan to compete everywhere, not just major cities in blue states.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:14 PM

27. You can do that without the support of more than half the party and see how it works out.

 

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:45 PM

21. She does. I do.

I think you are missing the bigger point, sir.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:20 PM

2. Wish I could rec 1,000 times

I'll never forget the Women's March. It was a true turning point, for us. I remember standing, then walking slowly, on a cold January day. Apparently it meant nothing to many, including many so-called "progressives." Unbelievably, we're supposed to give up our rights for the good of the party.

Oh, right. Some of these same people think protests are useless.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:21 PM

3. Yeah i know. The resistance is women. Compromising our rights is not resistance. It is capitulation

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:21 PM

4. No. Just No. Not a discussion.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:23 PM

5. I said the same thing basically a few days ago?

If anyone is stupid enough to mess around with women's rights at that level they are in for a rude awakening. I guess they forget the 70s and what brought us here in the first place. Younger women may get into resisting and politics for the first time and it won't stop with just wearing pink hats and attending a protest or two.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:38 PM

7. We all subjugate ourselves to the electorate

 

Elections are won by appealing to the majority of voters in each particular district.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:48 PM

9. And sometimes that appeal takes the form of supporting an incumbent

who will win the district. And sometimes that incumbent holds some positions with which we do not agree.

So do we abstain from voting?

Do we challenge the incumbent and hope for a win with a new candidate?

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:47 PM

22. You might want to rethink that.

unless the majority of the voters in your district is men.

if so, I get it.


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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:07 PM

25. The majority of white women in America voted for Trump

 

I think you are living in a bubble.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:12 PM

26. Again, you might want to rethink that.

I do not give a f*ck about that.


and I sure as hell do not appreciate you mansplaining to me about women.

Women are not a single voting block.




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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:53 PM

11. We are the Democratic base

Along with our POC brethren. It is a fools errand to ignore us.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:57 PM

12. Largest protest ever. Came up with and pushed resist. Now, to the back of the bus. nt

 

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:58 PM

13. It's one of a few issues that, for me, is not negotiable

any more than supporting segregation is negotiable. Democrats don't support segregated schools. Democrats do support same-sex marriage and trans people using public bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity. All of these are civil rights issues; nobody dares suggest that it would be OK for the DCCC to fund a candidate who came out in favor of segregation, or against same-sex marriage or gender-identified bathrooms. Why is it OK to support - more importantly, to fund - candidates who don't fully support women's right to control their own bodies?

I appreciate that in some districts a pro-choice position might be a tough sell; people in those districts are going to have to decide for themselves whether they will support an anti-choice Democrat vs. an anti-choice Republican. But that's not the same as the national party funding and supporting such a candidate, contrary to the pro-choice platform that the party has adopted for years.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:15 PM

14. In a Women In Politics college course--For the past 40 years, 45% of women voted Republican.

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45% of women voted against the ERA.

A solid and unwavering 45% of women voted for paternalism and for GOP matters for 40 years.

Nothing changes this.


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Being Pro-Choice DOES NOT IMPACT A THING.

These women who vote paternalistic, and the males in their households, generally vote conservative no matter what a Democrat offers, because they look at the entire party as being Pro-Choice and anti-"Religious Freedom." They follow their church's directives.


Most are doing so because of Orthodox, Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal or Charismatic influenced reasoning.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:22 PM

16. I am so glad I'm not a woman

I'd be spending most of my time in prison for constantly kicking men in the balls.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:45 PM

20. Please give it a rest

No message

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:49 PM

23. ?? Please elaborate. Thanks in advance. eom

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:19 PM

28. K&R


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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:25 PM

29. One in six women who supported Hillary are anti abortion

 

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