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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:23 PM Aug 2017

A Democrat is always better for Dems than any Republican. Now, our focus needs to be on winning.

After we win the House, Senate and White House and a large majority of State Houses. Then we can argue over the issues and other specifics like the Republicans are doing. Because right now the GOP controls almost all of our political lives.

Keep your eyes on the prize.

Stop fighting among ourselves.

The Earth itself and all our lives, thoughts and dreams for the future literally depend on it.

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A Democrat is always better for Dems than any Republican. Now, our focus needs to be on winning. (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 OP
YES, Joe. THANK YOU! elleng Aug 2017 #1
Thank you! And to use another great line: we must hang together or we will hang separately! JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #4
ABSOLUTELY! elleng Aug 2017 #6
Vote Democratic! Cary Aug 2017 #2
Lindy West makes one hell of an argument for why even the reddest of red districts cannot have Foamfollower Aug 2017 #3
The political graveyard is already full of dead Dems. We need to stay alive! JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #8
And you can't stay alive by jettisoning one of the most popular policy stances on one of the most Foamfollower Aug 2017 #10
Then attack the enemy with your energy. Not Dems. That is how we can win. Focus on the GOP. JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #12
And direct your donations to those organizations you believe will do the best with it. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #16
Yes please we can do it Aug 2017 #5
And how do you suggest we win elections if we don't stand for anything but winning? dflprincess Aug 2017 #7
The GOP has done it and now they control everything. We have no choice. JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #9
Strange that you say we have "no choice" dflprincess Aug 2017 #11
The choice is GOP or Dem control. The answer is up to us together. Not apart. JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #13
I'm not interested in Dem control dflprincess Aug 2017 #15
Dem control will serve all our causes better than the status quo with the GOP in control. JoeOtterbein Aug 2017 #17
+ 1 musette_sf Aug 2017 #14
Nope. Not going to happen. a la izquierda Aug 2017 #18

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
4. Thank you! And to use another great line: we must hang together or we will hang separately!
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:42 PM
Aug 2017

Literally!

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
3. Lindy West makes one hell of an argument for why even the reddest of red districts cannot have
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:29 PM
Aug 2017

an anti-choice Dem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/opinion/trump-democrats-abortion-litmus-test.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

I used to be in support of allowing Dems in those sorts of districts to be anti-choice, but West's argument convinced me that's bullshit whistling past the graveyard and is nothing but bad for the Democratic Party, so I will oppose the DCCC ever supporting such a candidate and will withhold my donations to the DCCC if that continues to be their policy.

This is one issue there is no compromise on, even in a deep red district. IF they won't vote for a pro-choice Dem, they aren't going to vote for any Dem you put up. West's argument is convincing and rock solid.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
10. And you can't stay alive by jettisoning one of the most popular policy stances on one of the most
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:07 PM
Aug 2017

divisive issues in the nation's politics.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
16. And direct your donations to those organizations you believe will do the best with it.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:35 PM
Aug 2017

Right now, the DCCC deserves not a penny from any true blue Democrat.

dflprincess

(28,076 posts)
7. And how do you suggest we win elections if we don't stand for anything but winning?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:54 PM
Aug 2017

It's been made clear that voters don't think the Democratic party has any kind of message.

dflprincess

(28,076 posts)
11. Strange that you say we have "no choice"
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:15 PM
Aug 2017

when it's a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions that is suddenly negotiable.

After women get thrown under the bus are you going to be okay with the party running racists and homophobes all in the name of "winning"?

Since Reagan was president the Democrats have been trying this Republican lite routine. Sooner or later Democrats need to figure out that doesn't work and it only results in more lost elections.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
17. Dem control will serve all our causes better than the status quo with the GOP in control.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:05 AM
Aug 2017

let's fight the GOP together!

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