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If McConnell and Ryan are indicted along with Trump and Pence does a Democrat get to be president?
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/04/new-report-reveals-mcconnell-ryan-took-millions-russian-oligarch-tied-putin/
A series of top Republican elected officials have just been exposed for accepting outsized donations from one of the worlds richest men, Leonid Len Blavatnik. Blavatnik is a Ukrainian-born businessman whose fortune comes from owning a company purchased by Putins Rosneft, the state-run Russian oil company cited in the infamous Russian pee tape dossier.
Americans have asked why Congressional Republicans continued to defend President Trumps secret relationship with Putin and their collision in last years elections, and these massive Super PAC donations could help explain why.
The Dallas News just issued a stunning report based on public records recently uncovered by the Democratic Coalition, that the Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and Senate Majority leader McConnell have taken a Putin-connected billionaire Blavatniks cash:
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Donald Trump and the political action committees for Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Lindsey Graham, John Kasich and John McCain accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch who is the business partner of two of Russian president Vladimir Putins favorite oligarchs and a Russian government bank.
brush
(53,764 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Why else would they allow Trump and the Russians to get away with rigging/stealing the republican primaries?!?!
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)...we've been seeing this info hinted all along since a year ago.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Hopefully, this new report will add enough pressure to make that inevitable. I would LOVE to see McTurtle and The Granny Killer resign in shame.
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)Until the GOP members of Congress are convinced that it's in their best interest to get rid of these guys, they'll never buck they current leadership.
madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)I don't like him, don't trust him, think he would be icky, but...
There's a Mormon Culture prophecy about "the One Mighty and Strong." It gets used for a lot of nefarious bullshit, from Mormon fundamentalism motivated murder, to propelling self-aggrandizing, easily convinced dolts to run for office, but in recent years, it's been interpreted to mean a successful LDS president. Jon Huntsman was never going to get it applied to him (too close to cultural Mormon in name only) but Romney was a contender for it. It's never been applied to Hatch, certainly not as a caretaker in a dead engine, being towed administration. Hatch would not be re-elected; too many in the R base still think of Mormons as heretics.
I'd really like that prophecy to be nailed closed and ignored, and getting their first president by technicality would take a lot of power from that nonsense.
And Hatch is relatively clean for a Republican. (Which means the mud will wash out with enough Tide and hot water.)
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)canetoad
(17,151 posts)If he ends up in the *Chair, his tenure is soiled by association.
politicat
(9,808 posts)Anybody who ends up caretaking is ruined. I want Hatch in part because I want him ruined, and Hatch means Pence and Ryan are rocking their new orange duds, and Hatch keeps Tillerson out. After Tillerson is Mnuchin, then Mattis, who is my next okay, this isn't immediately lethal. But after Mattis, there's a whole line of crooks, liars, thieves and dolts, until we get to Rick Perry, who is all of the above. Yeah.
So I despise and loathe Orrin Hatch, but he's the least awful in the upper 1/3 of the succession list. He doesn't wank to Altas Shrugged or Deuteronomy, he's been in elected government for more than a hot minute, and he has beliefs and morals. I may disagree with them, but this is my Hamiltonian endorsement of Jefferson over Burr - I disagree with everything he stands for, but he stands for something.
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)I have to say you underestimate the power of their "prophecies". If a Mormon president is brought about "technically" that will make no difference to them. It will be a sign from on high, it will energize them and with childlike servitude the members will be "spiritually guided" to double down on spreading Joseph Smith's pedophile gospel throughout the world, all of which I'm not a fan. I hope a Mormon never gets into office.
Maraya1969
(22,477 posts)Hopefully, some journalists can do a little more investigating and find that he is also getting money from the Russians.
At what point do they just drop the party and give it back to the party that actually won the election?
You don't have to answer because I know it is most likely never.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)yesterday,Ryan had a comment about Suppressing the Vote if he did not get his Legislative Agenda approved. Understand the speech was in Wisconsin.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Ryan and McConnell have been very subtle about the money and other means to win in 2018. Pretty much,we are going to pull out all the stops,and by the way we count the votes.
procon
(15,805 posts)It would be the perfect storm if the FBI investigation was concluding next summer and then indictments going out just before the election. That would put the Dems back in the majority with a new House Speaker and that would be a game changer in the line of succession. That's my fantasy anyway.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)we can no longer pretend that everything is fixable.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)There's a lot that has to be done.
We need to go back to paper ballots. Although, there's the "hanging chad" issue there, as well.
madokie
(51,076 posts)check the box, no hanging chads shit,, But, but we have electronic vote counting machines and thats just as bad as the black boxes in my book
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The KGOP has been working at the gaslighting and projections steadily, sytematically for some time. As the noose tightens around their TraitorWeasel throats, they will ramp it up to an insane level: fake investigation, Dems are actually the traitors, Hillary's emails, Comey and Mueller are Dem stooges out to deprive the "real republican america" of its cherished "family-values" role model, Comrade Casino, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief. etc. etc. ad nauseum,
Over and over and over, incessantly, at insane-making volume.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)in awhile, based on the near universal dislike of him and his party. I suspect there will be a lot of voters at the polls next time around.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)But that would mean indicting Trump and Pence simultaneously... in 2019, and assuming the Democrats take the house.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Do they think if they confess now, Father Mueller will let them off with just a few tears of remorse?
They are so calculating and disgusting.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)It almost looked like someone had a gun to his head: he looked scared.
malaise
(268,930 posts)when McCarthy told them the Con and the other idiot from California were on Putin's payroll.
Don't you love these great American patriots?
AJT
(5,240 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)in the republican party. they have really made it work for them. i wish i knew that the constitution would win, but they have that shackled now too. scary days.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)Sechin and Putins mega-energy merger may have seemed like a good strategic deal for Russia, but for Fridman, Vekselberg, Blavatnik and Khan, whose combined net worth now hovers around $55 billion, cashing out of Russias most oil-dependent company in the spring of 2013, with West Texas Crude selling at $92 per barrel and Western banks pumping loans into Russia, may go down as the most brilliantly timed profit-taking of the decade. It also may have set off a chain of events in global financial markets that has contributed to the collapse of Russias currency, which plummeted 40% against the dollar in 2014. Putins state has been thrown into recession.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)Where would we be without her?????
Maraya1969
(22,477 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)they shall live in infamy.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)A whois search on washingtonjournal.com shows it's a privately registered GoDaddy site, which isn't exactly trustworthy for a news source. Also, the "report" from the Dallas News that they are basing this off of is an opinion piece.
No reliable news source is reporting on this.
Justice
(7,185 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Currently only being reported on by unscrupulous sites like the one in the OP and Palmer Report (which is rarely accurate).
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Scott Dworkin has done yeoman's work on this subject, and the info HAS been out there for months. Further, it's mostly or entirely in the public record so you could go do your own search. I'll give you a couple of links -- there are more, and I'm sure I don't have all of them.
McConnell linked super PAC took $2.5 million from a pro-Putin Ukrainian businessman
Scott Dworkin ? @funder
#TrumpLeaks Docs: Mitch McConnell linked super PAC took $2.5 million from a pro-Putin Ukrainian businessman last election cycle #trumprussia
6:58 PM - 21 May 2017
Link to tweet
McConnell linked super PAC took $40,570,000 from 4 of Trump's largest backers
Link to tweet
Over 400 Trump Docs Leaked: Russian Money Tied to McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, McCain, and RNC
http://www.bluedotdaily.com/over-400-trump-docs-leaked-russian-money-tied-to-mcconnell-cruz-rubio-mccain-and-rnc/
Here's a whole Twitter thread w/images:
Link to tweet
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Not twitter feeds and unreliable sites like Palmer Report, Blue Dot Daily, or Occupy Democrats.
If it's not being reported on by mainstream, reputable sources, then it either hasn't been verified or it is untrue. I'll wait before I get my hopes up.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Okay, you're definitely on your own then.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)It worked out well for Fitzmas.
All I'm saying is take sites like these with a grain of salt, and wait for corroborating reports from reputable sources. That used to be something DUers prided themselves on.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Perhaps you mean every tweet?
I take it you spend no time there. Pity. It's actually a more vibrant and up to the minute source of news than DU.
I pride myself on being open to a wide range of sources of information and having the discernment to determine which are viable and "good," which are questionable but worth following for the potential info, and which are just bad.
On both Facebook and Twitter, who you follow plus your responses to various tweets determines what kind of content flows through your timeline. Mine includes hard news sources, reliable pundits (e.g., Joy Reid, Jennifer Rubin), activists and activist groups, and people like Scott Dworkin who are 100% good and ahead of mainstream media because they're doing original research and don't have to deal with filters like overly cautious editors afraid of kicking that hornet's nest.
I'm sure your approach works for you, but BOY are you limiting yourself. Your choice, though, and welcome to it.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)But I prefer to read more than 140 characters at a time. Allows for more in depth analysis. I also use facebook. Neither are good (or valid) news sources.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I'm having a little trouble thinking you're all that familiar with it, but I'll let you cling to your self-image as a worldly and oh-so-high-toned consumer of news.
And to repeat myself: And welcome to it.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)flying_wahini
(6,589 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)But for some people, that's not good enough.
I have a friend on FB who also insists on "Christian Monitor or ... " I forget what his other main choice is or new, and while that's an analogy rather than a hard rule, he limits himself SO MUCH by clinging to MSM alone. I've also seen him jump all over something similar to a Daily Kos reiteration (with links) of a hard news article, because his purist insistence on "valid" news sources prevents him from even looking at a piece. I call him on it whenever I get the chance.
What I think is going on is that these people don't trust themselves to be able to discern -- or to learn to discern -- when they're being conned or tricked. Shrug. I feel like my own BS detector if fairly well tuned by this time. Not 100% accurate, but strong, and it gives me a LOT of help even with mainstream stories. I'll read something and think to myself, based on years of experience following political news and current affairs, that there's more to the story. Got to be. Naturally, I can't think of any examples at the moment, but there've been plenty. Usually the truth or more of it comes out within a few weeks if not sooner.
It's a valuable skill, IMO, worth developing.
YCHDT
(962 posts)Girard442
(6,070 posts)Looked them up on Wikipedia. They're pretty real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dallas_Morning_News
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)It's an OPINION piece in the Dallas Morning News.
Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)Opinion pieces just give the reporter leeway to characterize the facts. In this case, the facts presented are damning.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)but if it IS legit, it will be REPORTED on in reputable mainstream sources, not as an opinon piece in a newspaper or a posting on a questionable blog.
Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)The SOURCE is FEC documents in the public record. Why you find that suspect is perplexing.
politicat
(9,808 posts)The writing is following the threads and knitting them into a coherent narrative.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)"credible" entails, but -- for all those people who are out in the poppies believing what others consider "conspiracy theories," he's out in the poppies in the other direction, IMO.
politicat
(9,808 posts)It's not completely shouting into a hurricane.
(Also, it's the Dallas (morning) news. Per Molly Ivins, who worked around it for decades, it tends to put stuff which can be broadly classified as "news that will upset our wealthy, white, republican base" not on the front page. Editorial is actually a good place for that article, given their readership.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I was just shocked at this attitude and trying to commiserate.
Interesting comment about the Dallas paper.
Justice
(7,185 posts)Check out campaign money.com and search his name Leonard Blavatnik for the 2016 cycle.
Edited to add - easy to give contribution, he is a US citizen and no one would question it. But Mitch and others who received big bucks would know who gave it. Don't forget that Mitch and Ryan used their PACs to help campaigns - Mitch gave Burr $1 M for his campaign for example.
The issue is whether money was really Blavatnik's or if it was from Russians funneled through him.
mucifer
(23,530 posts)from foreign interests if it's done through PACs.
I hope I'm wrong.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)If the heads of all three have their backs against the wall, what chance does Mueller or the FBI really have? If this actually happened and all 4 of them went down, I would maybe start to believe in America as a genuinely free country again, but I'm sure as hell not holding my breath.
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)Pls read, & share!
trump-rusky-republikers all in it, & on Team Mueller's radar. BELIEVE IT.💖
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Never saw it coming that unlimited money in elections would lead to this kind of corruption. Really, who could have known?
Criminals, all of them.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)As some have pointed out - these people are trying to pass such horrible legislation - they don't seem to be worried at ALL about re-election.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)As far as Congress 2016 theft I've been pretty suspicious since Nov of how Doug Applegate "lost" to Darrell Issa by just 1500 votes that came at the end from Orange County. San Diego, which is a pretty bipartisan, Democratic leaning County, went large for Applegate. How did the smaller portion of this district that's in OC out weight Applegate's lead coming out of San Diego County?
Especially since the vote from this whole district went Hillary. Issa is not a liked politician in his district; hard to imagine anyone who voted for Hillary voting for Issa. Especially after Applegate's brilliant ad alerted everybody that Issa voted against
the 911 First Responders.
Issa's final desperate flood of character assassination ads on Applegate's past, messy divorce also was nothing like what we've seen before in political ads in this district. Kind of reeked of this new Repug Russian collaborative Op Research
and was definitely cyber targeted (Cambridge) to The Fundies of OC market. (Funny, The OC is probably the messy divorce capital of the USA, so doubt those old divorce records they dug up had much impact on other OC voters)
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Time to start looking into the slush funding of all Republican anti Democracy organizations...the Kochs, for example, their end game is no different than Putin's.
I deeply suspect that these 501C4 TAXFREE (i.e. we pay instead), secret donor Republican machines(including the Religious Right) major part of their funding and propaganda infrastructure.
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)What a sad day that the speaker and majority leader are Russian first.
They better lose their asses. Get em Mueller
Fatemah2774
(245 posts)As Al Bundy once said, get em now, get em good and then get em again.
I want to see the draining of the swamp while I sing Rubber Duckie with Ernie...let's get clean for thiose orange jumosuits!
shraby
(21,946 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)This is underreported. From 2016.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Botany
(70,490 posts)Treason
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)you could read it all year long
They made the most of Scalia's demise
Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)... with Democrats accepting the foreign money when Russia hacked the election in her favor?
Iggo
(47,549 posts)...who didn't take money from the Russians.
And I'm not even sure he didn't.
SeloverB
(26 posts)Can we stop this crap if we don't?
riversedge
(70,186 posts)burrowowl
(17,638 posts)They_Live
(3,231 posts)I get bored with being right all the time, but I was right again about this.
Will anyone do anything about it?
syringis
(5,101 posts)...to a certain point, this clownish administration have some coherence. Sort of...
syringis
(5,101 posts)...to a certain point, this clownish administration have some coherence. Sort of...
This makes me understand why they are willing to throw Millions of Americans under the bus.
They Take a Pay Check from American Taxes and Are serving a Foreign entity.