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JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:33 PM Aug 2017

Autonomous F-16s and F-35s... not remote/drone but actually autonomous. !

How many people have heard or knew about this?
I heard this in a conversation today and had to look it up.

The ability to tell an F-16 to attack a target (air-to-air or air-to-ground strikes) and it then goes ahead and figures out how to do it and executes the mission. Not just a pre-programmed flight path and mission, but actual autonomy. I guess in the trials they even "surprised" it with enemy air threats and it responded to them and then continued on about it's original objective.


I know the military has been doing this for years with testing autonomous helicopters and cargo drops. But actually having a warplane able to execute kinetic strikes and even respond to incoming threats is a whole other level of, frankly, scariness. I think the primary enabler is the fly-by-wire nature of the F16... but then if you think about it, the F35 is also all fly-by-wire so there's no reason to think stealth fighters couldn't be flying around autonomously, too. And beyond that, without having to support a pilot and limiting the planes performance to the human's capabilities... if you designed a new small fighter jet around the idea that it is only going t obe autonomous... well that's going to be amazing.

https://themerkle.com/us-air-force-successfully-trials-autonomous-f-16s-in-combat-situations/

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Autonomous F-16s and F-35s... not remote/drone but actually autonomous. ! (Original Post) JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 OP
And it'll be totally unhackable, for sure gratuitous Aug 2017 #1
oh absolutely, believe me! Bigly! BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #3
Yeah bad idea. elehhhhna Aug 2017 #5
What could possibly go wrong? tblue37 Aug 2017 #6
"Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record." Orrex Aug 2017 #2
In the future, when we see someone in uniform, we'll say: BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #4
Decepticons Liberallover976 Aug 2017 #7
I've worked in aviation automation for a long time.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #8
Is there a reason to believe a Belgian bitcoin enthusiast had inside knowledge of USAF tests? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #9
Air Force, Lockheed Martin Demonstrate Manned/Unmanned Teaming HAB911 Aug 2017 #10
Thank you - those have credibility (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #11
 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
5. Yeah bad idea.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:48 PM
Aug 2017

A childhood friend who works for the NSA recently confirmed ghat of course weapon systems are a huge hacking target and, and you may not find out that they've been successful until you are screwed.

Obviously this is obvious but since he evidently works on something relevant I thought it was fascinating.

I'm really happy this guy works at the NSA. Smartest kid I've ever met. I think the NSA staff sacrifices a lot for their jobs. Personal sacrifices.

If you are reading this, NSA, and you know you are – thank you for your service . YOU are true badasses who have to Bruce Wayne/Clark Kent it every day.

tblue37

(68,350 posts)
6. What could possibly go wrong?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:50 PM
Aug 2017

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BamaRefugee

(3,880 posts)
4. In the future, when we see someone in uniform, we'll say:
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

"THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROGRAMMING!"

Way better than offering endless "thoughts and prayers"!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
8. I've worked in aviation automation for a long time....
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:08 PM
Aug 2017

Right now, it's reasonably limited in capability, but in 10-20 years....

muriel_volestrangler

(105,856 posts)
9. Is there a reason to believe a Belgian bitcoin enthusiast had inside knowledge of USAF tests?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:44 PM
Aug 2017

If this was the only source you found, I expect it's made up.

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