I'm really getting tired of NK threatening us.

[Rustyeye77]

China is useless.

We should talk to NK and tell them we are getting tired of these threats.

Demand an end to their nuclear weapons program and offer some carrots.


And quite frankly if they are just scamming us , as usual, then take out their weapons militarily.

One nuke to the US means we waited too long.



And if anyone has a better idea, say it.

[stopbush]

1. Yeah, any idea is better than what you're proposing.

[elehhhhna]

137. I'm getting tired of the real housewives television franchise but we're not nuking them, either

[Warpy]

2. Uh, no

I know it's tempting to use that big hammer, but every problem isn't a nail.

That's Dolt45's problem, he thinks it is.

[AJT]

3. There bombs, etc are in a labyrinth of deep, underground tunnels.

[drray23]

4. think about it more...

if it was that easy we would have done it long ago. You can not take them out militarly without causing hundreds of thousands of death in the peninsula. They can fire their thousands of pieces of artillery and level seoul in minutes. Normally you would take those out before any strike but we dont know where they are. they have systems of tunnels and can reconfigure quickly underground.
The danger is not NK nuking us, its them taunting Trump enough that we would launch. They have been playing this game for decades. Level headed US presidents have learned to take it for what it is.

[kacekwl]

6. Why doesn't president fat ass pull himself out of the golf cart

grab his do nothing secretary of state and get a conversation with NK and China to see if this can be resolved. Insultating and threatening the insane certainly won't help. Do something smart for a change trump, please.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

30. He should get one of these

[Calista241]

109. Haha. That's still one of the best Science Fiction movies of all time. n/t

[oasis]

113. "Wait for my brother Baron" Alia Atreides.

[roamer65]

5. If Dump had any guts, he'd get on a plane and go to Pyongyang to talk.

But he won't. He's a chicken shit.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. One way, preferably.

[B2G]

8. How many times did Clinton or Obama do that?

While I totally disagree with this unhelpful rhetoric, the NK problem has been years in the making. No one had known how to deal with it.

[Kingofalldems]

23. I see you only mentioned Democrats there.

[B2G]

42. Because its assumed the Republicans have done nothing. Nt

[Kingofalldems]

51. By who?

[B2G]

53. Everyone on DU.

I specifically mentioned Clinton and Obama to illustrate the the NK delimma transcends party affiliation. Because it does.

[Kingofalldems]

54. I don't believe that for one second.

[B2G]

56. No one says you have to.

It's my opinion, not yours.

[True Dough]

129. You're right

In the sense that nobody has effectively stopped the progression of NK's nuclear technology. The time has finally come where their crazy leader can quite possibly deliver on their threats to strike U.S. territory with a nuke. Dealing with that reality puts everyone in a helluva bind.

[Sunlei]

92. Republicans harm global stability AND our Democracy.

[sprinkleeninow]

106. Oh yeah, the repubs have done something. What have they done??

Check out directly previous comment that conveys my sentiments succinctly.

[Squinch]

29. "The NK problem has been years in the making." Doesn't that just mean that we've

managed to keep the NK problem from blowing up for years? All those people who didn't know how to deal with it did a hell of a lot better job at it than this imbecile.

[B2G]

43. Well now they supposedly have a nuke

I would call that escalation.

[Squinch]

44. They've supposedly had a nuke for as long as I can remember.

Then it always turns out they don't.

[MichMary]

82. It's the miniaturization that makes this situation different

They've had nukes for something like 15 years, but now they have a delivery system that can get it here--apparently, just about anywhere within the country.

[B2G]

86. Yes, that's what I meant.

A nuke they are capable of actually doing something with.

[Sunlei]

93. Russia has a shipping lane from NK to Russia, even has a ferry for people. Ask Republicans why?

[Warren DeMontague]

57. It's getting worse, unfortunately. And, it's exactly the sort of issue which requires

competent, grown-up leadership in DC.

Unfortunately, at this exact moment, instead of competent leadership, we have Captain Thunderpants.

[Squinch]

58. Yes, I know. But the fault does not lie with Clinton and Obama as the poster suggests.

[Warren DeMontague]

95. I agree.

I find it funny that so many "experts" on this history of this clusterfuck are unaware that so much- if not all- of the current shitshow could have been avoided if MacArthur would have just listened to Harry Truman and kept the troops a reasonable distance from the Yalu river.

[Rustyeye77]

98. Careful... any mention of war...

youre called a warmonger.

[Warren DeMontague]

101. I think Korea was clearly a justified military action. As evidenced by how awful life is for the

people still suffering under the rule of the North.

As bad as Syngman Rhee was, at least now S. Korea is a thriving democracy. There's simply no contest between the quality of existence for South Koreans and the lack thereof, in the North.

However, MacArthur; no doubt in the throes of an ego high off his success at Inchon along with the fact that he was, well, MacArthur--- fucked up bigtime.

If he had kept the troops away from the Yalu as he was instructed, the situation likely would have been settled with UN forces controlling something like 80% of what is now North Korea, and Kim Il Sung in exile. It's highly unlikely that North Korea as we know it today would exist at this point.

[metalbot]

67. Sort of

But you could also argue that French and British diplomacy managed to stop the "German problem" from blowing up for the decade leading up to the invasion of Poland. By the time they were forced to act, Europe saw its bloodiest conflict ever.

I don't disagree that Trump is an imbecile, but this is the one situation where when he says "I inherited a mess!" he's absolutely correct (unlike his assertions about the economy, immigration, Iran, and Afghanistan).

[Squinch]

68. This is simply not the fault of Obama and Clinton as the poster is suggesting.

[MichMary]

84. It was 2002 when it was announced

that NK had nukes, because they had broken a 1994 deal. This situation has been a long time in the making, and there have been three administrations that have kicked the can down the road. Assigning "fault" is useless at this point. The question is, what do we do with the situation we have now?

[metalbot]

107. Not "simply", but certainly "partly"

We are where we are because Obama failed to stop North Korea.

Obama was where he was because Bush failed to stop North Korea.

Bush was where he was because Clinton failed to stop North Korea.


I mean, I guess you can push the blame to the State Department, given that both parties have identical positions on N Korea, but that feels dishonest.

[lame54]

73. Bill Clinton went their personally to free hostages

[Sunlei]

91. normally our diplomats and SOS make contacts, USA does have a presence there because (Korean war)

plenty of our government traveled to NK over the past several years.

The UN along with several UN countries has addressed the recent NEW SANCTIONS on NK.

The current President is just a liar, POS con artist supported by Republican party 'for profit' warmongers. America would be better off if current presidents position was vacant.

[smirkymonkey]

25. You are absolutely right.

He likes to talk tough, but the truth is, he is the biggest coward in the world. When it comes down to it, he won't do the difficult thing or the right thing. He just thinks that throwing his weight around will solve every problem, when it is exactly the opposite. It only makes things worse.

[bdamomma]

45. he is just a bully

who doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Pissed off about Mueller so he wants to threaten NK????

Get him out please.

[regnaD kciN]

31. Nah. If Kim and Trump are to talk, it will have to be at a neutral location...

Might I suggest the surface of Mars? Make it so!

[RKP5637]

127. He hasn't the slightest idea WTF to do. The guy is a total loser in every way. All he is, is a

loud mouthed stupid buffoon! If he talked to Kim directly, we would probably be in even worse shape by the time Trump called him every name in the book and made fun of him. Art of a Deal, what a fucken joke!

[Azathoth]

9. Taking out DPRK is easy. Problem is there is no way to do it without Seoul being erased first

There are no good options for dealing with them. But from an array of bad options, hurling impotent Saddam Hussein-esque slogans at them is one of the worst.

[BannonsLiver]

10. Here you go...

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/join-the-military-basic-eligibility.html

[RandiFan1290]

59. Thank you! nt

[annabanana]

65. +1 . . . . n/t

[tenderfoot]

94. LOL

[AlexSFCA]

11. there will always be conflicts and problems in the world

The world will never be a perfect place. Thus, it is 'normal' to have ongoing conflicts, they are not going away; and if they do, new conflicts will arise. 'Unintended consequences'. We thought we defeated the cold war only for Russia to come back and help destroy our democracy. The job of every president is to manage these conflicts until the next president, the nature of these conflicts is that they have no solutions; keep them going indefinately and sometimes those regimes fall over time.

[cyclonefence]

12. North Korea wants an end

to annual US-South Korean joint war games (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3851636/north-korea-end-missiles-nukes-talks-us-trump/), and it seems to me that's a good place to start negotiations.

[Redlineoverdrive]

13. Douglas MacArthur was right

Should of taken them out when we had the chance, now it's simmered for so long. We can either turn the heat up or down on them. It is a little scary how far their icbm program has come. However they know they can't win, they could do some serious damage before they go down. World would be safer without them waving their guns around. I'm not sure if they are as suicidal as the Japanese during ww2...

[Warren DeMontague]

17. MacArthur is largely responsible for the shit situation we have, today.

Inchon was brilliant- no question- but it went to his head.

He was told not to get within 100 miles or so of the Yalu river, and ignored Truman's orders. Because of this, the Chinese got involved. They would have stayed out were it not for the threat of US troops right across the river from their border.

Kim Il Sung was defeated. The North was a shell. If MacArthur had listened, they would have been in no position to remain the totalitarian shitshow they are today, with US Troops occupying something like 80% or more of what is now NK.

MacArthur's other big idea was to start dropping atomic bombs on Asia. That would have gone sour fast, too.

[dubyadiprecession]

14. North korea really wants to be paid off to stop this nonsense.

That's what peace deals are all about. check out the Camp David accord, it's about the Egyptians and Israeli's each getting 3 billion annually (from the US Treasury) to make peace with each other.

[KatyMan]

28. i don't understand why

A country like China doesn't take NK aside and say "dude you can be in the club, we can make it happen" so we can be done with this brinksmanship. Perhaps I give world and country leaders more credit than they deserve.

[Willie Pep]

38. Yeah it is extortion.

But as you point out with Camp David it is not the first time we have done this. Hopefully one day the Kim dynasty will end and North Korea can be free and we won't have to put up with this nonsense anymore but they have figured out a good racket.

I am not sure what other option there is. The Chinese have influence over the North Koreans and keep them around as a potential attack dog. Plus if the North Korean regime fell and the country collapsed into chaos China would be faced with millions of impoverished North Korean refugees trying to escape across the Yalu River into Manchuria. That is one reason why China helps to prop the Kims up even though the Chinese know that they are a pain in the butt too.

[Initech]

15. This is all Putin's bidding. We're falling right into his trap.

He's the real bad guy in all of this.

[Initech]

22. Russia and North Korea have signed a research agreement!

If earth were a game of Civilization, you know this would happen!

[Purveyor]

33. Have s citation for that? Never heard that... nt

[Initech]

46. It's a reference to the game Civilization V.

[Takket]

55. That is EXACTLY what i thought..............

even a few months ago when they were testing missiles the word was they were a few years away from nukes and a few years after that to mounting them to a warhead. then today the word is "oh yeah, they have them now." WOW! What a leap!

[saidsimplesimon]

76. Initech

It's a relief to read that some of US have not lost our collective "brains".

[Cicada]

16. We fly B2 bombers from Guam over North Korea

If they said "I'm getting tired of USA threatening us" would you complain?

We have been threatening them for months. They can't threaten us back?

If they flew bombers over us, over and over, and constantly threatened us should we remain silent?

We have a long record of invading and blowing up countries we oppose. Except those which have nuclear weapons. They must get nukes or we will invade them and blow them up. That is what history has taught them. They have said they will use nukes only if we attack them first. Should they not develop nukes so we can invade them and blow them up? That's what our prior actions have caused them to think.

[NobodyHere]

27. No we didn't

We flew B1 bombers over South Korea

[Cicada]

35. Sorry. Why do we fly bombers over the Korean Peninsula?

To scare the shit out of South Koreans? Or to scare the shit out of North Koreans?

NK threatened Guam because we are signaling them that we will attack them from there.

We invade, blow up, and kill the leaders of small countries who get in our way. Like the mob does with smaller competing gangs. It is what we do. Unless they have nukes. So North Korea, who does not want to be invaded, blown up, and decapitated, feels it must make nukes to stop us. We don't permit such countries to resist us so we threaten them for doing that.

It costs us trillions of dollars, kills millions of people, but it is our nature, like killing is what sharks do. North Korea knows they will probably be eaten but what other choice do they have?

[EX500rider]

108. "Why do we fly bombers over the Korean Peninsula?"

Because we have Air Force bases in S Korea and train with the S Korean military?

[Cicada]

120. The B1 bombers arrived in Guam Aug 6, 1st time there in 10 years

The flights are not routine military training. They are an escalation aimed at NK. NK reacts by demonstrating that they can blow up Guam.

[marybourg]

131. Actually, it's their massive non-nuclear

artillery capacity, aimed directly at Seoul, that is deterring us. They don't need, and can never have enough nukes to deter us.

[Cicada]

138. Artillary aimed at South Korea does not matter to Trump

Why would he care if a million South Koreans get killed? Trump has a cold and deranged heart. He said we should make sure we kill the wives and children of Islamists we bomb.

But We would be deterred from attacking NK if in response they dropped nuclear bombs on Seattle, San Francisco, New York and Washington DC.

[GoCubsGo]

20. I'm getting really tired of our nutjob President antagonizing their nutjob leader.

[Squinch]

26. Donald, is that you? Shouldn't you be tucked up in bed tweeting lunacy?

[Nevernose]

32. Switch the names of those two countries in your post

Why should the North Koreans feel any differently?

We've been keeping them down, economically, for 65 years. Under threat of a three million person army and about eight THOUSAND nuclear missiles. Every night, every North Korean has gone to sleep thinking, "This might have been my last day on Earth. The US might nuke us all tomorrow, just because they don't like our government."

If I were North Korea, there would be very clear good guys and bad guys, and America would be all out of white hats.

[DonCoquixote]

77. to be fair, they want to kill south korea

and they invaded with aid from Chian to make it a puppet of Beijing,.

[randr]

34. They see a weak lsos pushed around by Putin

and just want on on the fun. Problem is it is not funny and the lsos has no real plan. This may not turn out well.

[tenderfoot]

36. I'm sick of right wing saber rattling and fear mongering.

and trolls spreading bullshit on DU.

[Kingofalldems]

41. Boom!

[Rustyeye77]

75. I guess..

everyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll.

Bullshit on that.

[J_William_Ryan]

37. I am more worried about the Orange Idiot.

The increased ‘threats’ from NK are exactly because of Trump – they know they can get a rise out of him.

[Iggo]

39. Yeah, we know.

[Kingofalldems]

40. Looks like a pro Trump OP from here.

[Bettie]

49. Yeah, it does

look that way.

[Rustyeye77]

71. ok... enough with the silly insults.

What do YOU think the US should do?

we talked to them for years and they always reneg on their agreements.

[Strelnikov_]

47. Why are some losing their water over NK, who face AD if they make any move.

We lived under the specter of MAD for, what, 30 years.

Seems to me we have become a country full of chickenshits, cow-towing to numb-nuts who want to use a 'Shock-Doctrine' crises to save a failing political party.

[briv1016]

48. Last week we were talking about Mueller and grand juries,

this week we're talking about North Korea. Coincidence?

[LexVegas]

50. We should have destroyed them the first time around. nt

[Orrex]

52. I propose instead that everyone in North America jump at the same time

When we all land, the combined force of impact will travel through the core and jolt all of North Korea right into space.


Crazy? Maybe.

More likely to succeed than your plan? Definitely.

[Lee-Lee]

60. North Korea is just months away from a massive famine

The nation live perilously on the edge of famine day to say anyway, but they are in the midst of a drought that is worse than they have seen in several decades that is decimating their already meager crop production.

By this winter, unless either they get rid of a lot of the population or they get massive food aid given to them they will have a huge famine.

Meanwhile Kim devotes all the resources he has available not to food or improving agricultural output and technology but on middles and nuclear weapons.

His end game will either be going for broke with all out war to capture the ROK's resources or use that as a tool to blackmail everyone into giving them food aid. Rational thinkers will assume it's the latter choice as it is the more rational of the two, but there is nothing rational about how the North Koreans act or think.

If he does plan to start hostilities it won't be until the winter. The North will want to wait until the rice paddies are drained and the bottoms frozen to make advancing south easier. If the attack in the summer and are limited to roads it would be a turkey shoot for ROK and the UN forces.

[B2G]

72. I always love your posts.

You are typically spot on and completely objective in your reasoning. We need more like you in here.

[Kingofalldems]

97. Well of course!

[B2G]

100. Are you related to LanternWaste, or

just fill in for him when he's otherwise engaged.

[LanternWaste]

111. efficacy is a good thing, and a noun

With one post, you've seemingly and accurately illustrated the efficacy of your mind's discipline (efficacy is a good thing, and a noun too!... just in case).

[B2G]

114. Lol. Don't ever change! nt

[MichMary]

104. Very scary scenario n/t

[avebury]

61. The problem with your solution is the fact the the US

does not know where to strike in order to wipe out the NK nuclear capability. Right now NK is saber rattling. If we go in to bomb NK and miss then they may well fire their missiles at anything they think that they can kit. Our efforts would be starting a war with a pre-emptive strike, their response would become self defence at that point.

Look at the proximity of NK to China and Russia. How do you think that they will react with Trump attacking so close to their borders?

[Vinca]

62. The problem is Dear Leader (ours, not theirs) isn't into talking.

He needs a big distraction from the Russia investigation. He currently has it now that we're discussing his remarks threatening North Korea with an attack. When that talk fades and Russia floats to the top again all hell could break loose. Both leaders are unstable men and this could end very badly.

[H2O Man]

63. Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair.

[annabanana]

64. "take out their weapons militarily" . .?

Just how, exactly, to you propose we do that without killing thousands of people in Seoul?

[KG]

66. NK has a massive military, and Seoul is with artillery range of the border

a military solution in lunacy.

[Rustyeye77]

69. Then your suggestion is...

talk to them and pay them off if possible?

[LanternWaste]

70. Ignore empty threats.

"And if anyone has a better idea, say it..."

Ignore empty threats. The demands and threats you cry for are useless, and will be as ineffective as they have been to date.

If you're tired of the street preacher yelling about eternal damnation every time you walk past him, it seems rational to wear ear-buds and turn your jam up... or simply go a block out of your way if it wearies you to that extent.

[6000eliot]

74. They know we have a deranged clown in power.

[alcibiades_mystery]

78. Before the Iraq invasion there were a ton of people here pressing this identical tactic

"OK, what SHOULD we do then? Huh? Huh?"

The whole gambit is meant to establish the actually unestablished premise: that Iraq/NK *is* a threat, *is* threatening us, *is* credibly capable of doing anything but yapping, *is* interested in aggressive war, etc. Oh, and that we *must* act urgently, now, now, now. make a decision, quickly, immediately! What, they say? You have no plan of your own? But this is URGENT! It's URGENT! Our plans will have to do! Since you have no plan of your own to deal with this URGENT THREAT!!!!!

One word: BULLSHIT.

Establish a clear and present danger in a reasoned and meticulous way. Demonstrate that there is any urgency on the matter at all. Demonstrate capability and opportunity. And don't give me any varieties of "You don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" nonsense.

And cut the BULLSHIT.

[sprinkleeninow]

105. I recall all too well how we got entangled in Iraq.

It was an illegal invasion.
It should've been a police action, involving each and every
major gov.'s law enforcement agency in concert with the US who the perpetration was wrought upon.

Our 'men in the know' caused us to dive head-first into an empty swimming pool, so to speak. Of, course, 'they' knew
exactly what they were doing.

Cooler heads must prevail, but with this hot head in Our Oval Office, ..........

Dammmit!

[apnu]

79. No. We should not talk to NK, we should talk to Korea and see what they want.

It is hypocritical of the US to act out against what's happened in Korea.

We should find out from the Koreans what they want and help them get to that. If they want a two state solution, do that.

The superpower nations of the world have used Korea as a proxy since the 1950s and its time to stop this madness and make peace there. But that peace, must be what the Korean people want. They should be not only involved but in command of whatever the solution is in that part of the world.

If we, the United States, is serious about democracy, freedom, and justice, that is the only action to take. Anything else is hypocritical.

[Rustyeye77]

80. Im totally confused by your post.

We should not talk to NK, we should talk to Korea and see what they want.

???

We should find out from the Koreans what they want and help them get to that.

as in South KOREA ???


But that peace, must be what the Korean people want

AS in South Korea ??

[apnu]

81. We do not recognize NK officially

When I say "Korea" I mean the Korean people that includes the North and the South. Technically, legally, we are still at war in Korea. We do not, nor does most of the West, recognize North Korea as a sovereign nation-state. This distinction is important and it also shows how little we, random people on the Internet, know of status of North Korea and South Korea. A lot of people don't know the history and presume NK is actually a legitimate country and government. And they forget the fact that we are still at war in Korea, its just on pause with a truce at this time, and nothing's come of it. Break that truce and the fighting starts up. North Korea's view is they own the whole of the peninsula, so what of the people in the South?

People will point out that Russia and China recognize North Korea as its own state, but they were the ones who started this mess in Korea, so all this is actually their fault to start. Of course they recognize North Korea!

But the important point I'm trying to make is, the situation right now both the authoritarian regime in NK and the US are talking over the South as if they don't exist. That's wrong.

We, the United States, need a solution for that part of the world so we can pack up and go home. I don't know what the solution is but its high time we stop the staring contest in that part of the world and start actually finding an acceptable solution to the human beings living in that part of the world.

[demmiblue]

83. Quelle surprise. n/t

[Rustyeye77]

85. i know i'm in the minority here....and thats ok.

Everyone is a critic until you ask whats your solution.

Any suggestion other than talking to them you have?

You willing to bet Lil Kim will never use them?

[LanternWaste]

87. I don't know Pi to the seventeenth place, but if someone recites the alphabet as the answer

"Everyone is a critic until you ask whats your solution..."

I don't know Pi to the seventeenth place, but if someone recites the Taiwanese alphabet as the answer, I'm going to laugh at them... regardless of not knowing the seventeen places myself; not because the answer is in the minority, it's because the answer is witless.

[demmiblue]

88. My suggestion: check out Discussionist; it may be a better fit for you. n/t

[Rustyeye77]

90. See... i really wanted your opinion.

have a nice discussion with you.

I guess it aint gonna happen.

[demmiblue]

96. Lol!

[Rustyeye77]

99. Pretty insulting.

nt

[Sunlei]

89. I'm tired of Republicans President amplifying, exaggerating & threatening EVERYTHING he notices.

quit feeding him shit on his fox & f(R)iends daily call-in. Bad for the world!

[still_one]

102. Uh, no thank you, and I am sure SK, Japan, and others in that region wouldn't agree with your

assessment


Oh, by the way, NK will not pre-emptively launch an attack against us because they realize that would be it for them

[Orsino]

103. So is our president.

Every other president seemed to handle it okay, so I'm not sure what to tell either of you.

Threatening like this is what the weak do to appear strong. It's theater.

[JMCoast]

110. Time to let him have the nukes?

Really, I'm sick of it too. But, maybe it's time to realize the guy either has them or is real close to having them. Could we not live with the little tyrant having nukes? I mean Pakistan has them and we tolerate that. Just saying, the only way to get this thing in check is diplomacy. Unfortunately the lunatic in the White House puts a severe damper on such a thing. I really don't think for a minute that Kim would risk total destruction. He wants money and attention. That's my take anyway

[Blue_Tires]

112. NK has been saying crazy shit for decades

The only difference is Trump is trying to play tit-for-tat and the North Koreans just called his bluff and raised...

[Not Ruth]

116. The difference is that in 6 months their weapons went from conventional splashing 600 miles away

To nukes reaching half the planet.

It has been a productive 6 months for them.

[Not Ruth]

117. The equivalent in elections would be waking up tomorrow to find that the 2028 general election is on

[Blue_Tires]

124. It wasn't on their own, Iran has supposedly been a big helper...

[Not Ruth]

125. Iran has no ICBM technology

And that was the buik of NKs upgrade

[Blue_Tires]

132. The collaboration allegedly hasn't just been one-way:

But nobody really seems to be sure on exactly what tech is being exchanged...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/15/former-cia-agent-says-iran-aiding-north-korea-as-new-missile-test-emboldens-pyongyang.html

https://www.cfr.org/interview/north-korea-iran-nuclear-cooperation

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/243787-irans-cooperation-with-north-korea-includes-nuclear

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/273953-north-korea-and-iran-dangerous-bedfellows-with-one-common

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24986/iran-missile-north-korea/

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R43480.pdf

[Not Ruth]

115. NK may have crossed the line when Kim killed his brother

Makes nuking Guam seem almost expected

[peggysue2]

118. I'm really tired of the . . .

Trumpster threatening us with his reckless, know-nothing arrogance. Every. Single. GD Day.

If the problem in NK were easy to solve, it would have been solved already. A nuclear strike would be disastrous for South Korea, Japan, even repercussions for Australia. Not to mention deadly to our troops and those of other nations, including Chinese and Russian troops. It's not too difficult to imagine a reckless decision escalating into a full-fledged World War.

Meanwhile on the diplomatic end, the State Department has stated that the US has a unified message as regards North Korea. Really? We have the Trumpster's inflammatory 'fire and fury' proclamation, Tillerson interpreting the statement as a simple warning and Mattis reminding NK that any war would be a war of their people's complete annihilation.

Keep it up and this Administration is going to get a lot of people killed.

[denbot]

119. Empty tin cans make the most noise.

Kim-What-ever knows that to follow through on his threats is the end of him, and his line.
He won't attack unless he is convinced we are about to strike first.

[Generic Brad]

121. And I find yapping chihuahua's annoying

But it doesn't compel to hurt them.

[ck4829]

122. One thing at a time, Rusty

I'm tired of being threatened by living paycheck to paycheck, knowing that if something were to seriously injure me, then complete and inescapable poverty would be inevitable.

I'm tired of seeing a healthcare system being used to make sure erection pills are distributed to the men who can afford the luxury then actually diagnosing and treating illnesses and injuries. Another thing that hits closer to home than some dictator in North Korea.

I'm tired of an administration and it's supporters who threaten to marginalize certain groups with the supporters actually threatening groups of Americans they don't like, members of these groups are among people I love.

[struggle4progress]

123. A playground spat between Donnie and Kimmie isn't a good reason to torch the neighborhood

[bronxiteforever]

126. +1000

[no_hypocrisy]

128. One day, NK will act after another threat. And we won't be ready because

this would be something new.

We have to treat each threat seriously instead of blunder and bluster because you never know . . . . .

[Rustyeye77]

133. Agree

I guess you wont be called a RW TROLL and WARMONGER.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

136. They're planning a test shot over Japan at Guam, likely before the end of the month.

We know it's coming. What will Trump's reaction be?

[Heartstrings]

130. I was of the thinking

the minority elected the best "deal making" president?

Then make a deal without bloodshed, asshole!

[malaise]

134. The rest of the planet is beyond tired of the US bullying the rest of us n/t

[elehhhhna]

135. FFS my ancestors fought and beat the Vikings the Visigoths and the goddamn Nazis

Little Kim scares me about as much as SpongeBob does

[Rustyeye77]

140. How about SpongeBob with a nuclear ICBM ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

139. If

If Trump said North Korea can huff and puff all they want but the moment they actually attack us or one of our allies our response will be violent and it will be forceful he would be getting kudos from most Americans.
But promising to unleash fire and fury on them for merely issuing threats which is their method of diplomacy was bound to end poorly.