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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:24 PM Aug 2017

Fuck Jill Stein. Fuck her voters. Fuck the Green Party. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Republican enablers.

Fuck anyone who ever said this past election was the lesser of two evils. No, you troglodytic shit stain. And fuck the excusers who still justify their vote for Stein or their vote for Trump or their non-vote in protest. When the nukes fly, ask yourself how true it was this past election was between the lesser of two evils. Then go fuck yourself in the final seconds you have on this planet.

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Fuck Jill Stein. Fuck her voters. Fuck the Green Party. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Republican enablers. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Aug 2017 OP
Oh and fuck the Russians too - and all those Russian bots. Drunken Irishman Aug 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #85
I feel you!!!! nt jrthin Aug 2017 #2
++++++ Agree iluvtennis Aug 2017 #101
And fuck frozen vegetables now 14 oz bags, not 16 leftstreet Aug 2017 #3
NO KIDDING. It's screwing up my spinach recipes. LisaM Aug 2017 #10
About that... wellst0nev0ter Aug 2017 #15
..... Clarity2 Aug 2017 #16
Yer darn tootin shenmue Aug 2017 #18
Yeah, and... mbusby Aug 2017 #26
Why is a 2x4 only 1 and a half by 3 and a half? panader0 Aug 2017 #64
Technically Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #83
I've worked on several old buildings that had full size lumber. panader0 Aug 2017 #87
Must've been nice Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #90
I worked at a sawmill for a while ashling Aug 2017 #99
And what about those cans of pumpkin Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #28
Ok Clarity2 Aug 2017 #52
It depends on who you talk to. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #81
Yeah, I always thought that hot dog bun mismatch was pure evil. lark Aug 2017 #112
Pumpkins ARE squash. alarimer Aug 2017 #121
They really cheat you with those snack sized bags.They color the package so you can't see... brush Aug 2017 #153
What about beer for those dogs? 6, 12, or 24-paks. Insane. nt NCjack Aug 2017 #158
"And fuck frozen vegetables now 14 oz bags, not 16." LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #57
And fuck those 6 oz "cups" of yogurt Danmel Aug 2017 #71
Yeah! And fuck murlocs. Flaleftist Aug 2017 #74
I see it is a fucking joke to you too.. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #78
I agree completely and I have said as much before. Flaleftist Aug 2017 #86
Murlocs...too right. trc Aug 2017 #82
Ugly, slimey bastards nt Flaleftist Aug 2017 #94
Is this a fucking joke to you? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #77
It's really interesting who isn't angry here, as American citizens Ninsianna Aug 2017 #135
I know who is who, and they are now trying to kill me so I am not joking about Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #136
And smaller toilet paper rolls and tissue boxes with fewer, smaller tissues. nt No Vested Interest Aug 2017 #103
And birthday cards now $ 3.50 to $5.00+ instead of $1.49 to $2.99 max. No Vested Interest Aug 2017 #104
Dollar Store is the only place I buy cards anymore Heartstrings Aug 2017 #130
I've heard that Dollar Store is good for cards, and calendars, etc. No Vested Interest Aug 2017 #144
I stock up when I go, which isn't often Heartstrings Aug 2017 #147
YES! YES! YES! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #4
I concur njhoneybadger Aug 2017 #5
ditto. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #70
I know how you feel. dawg Aug 2017 #6
You said it so well mcar Aug 2017 #7
There's much fucking to be done, but I'm up to it. VOX Aug 2017 #8
lol MFM008 Aug 2017 #11
Oh yeah shenmue Aug 2017 #19
Cheers! XRubicon Aug 2017 #9
Well said! ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #12
Ditto Clarity2 Aug 2017 #13
Here you are shenmue Aug 2017 #24
.... Clarity2 Aug 2017 #29
Don't hold back... MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #14
.... and fuck the deplorables they rode in on Takket Aug 2017 #17
Absolutely! You have a well deserved rec from me as that was a nice rant. LonePirate Aug 2017 #20
I wouldn't fuck them with Seb Gorka's member. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #21
You are correct. louis c Aug 2017 #22
Fuck The Eagles. AngryAmish Aug 2017 #23
Lol...just because I couldn't resist! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #54
We're talking football Clarity2 Aug 2017 #56
Drunken Irishman, I agree MiddleClass Aug 2017 #25
Now this is a thread I can get behind superpatriotman Aug 2017 #27
Green party voters saw the Nazis at the gate and still voted third party so screw them. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #30
Fuck the FUCKS too! Bladewire Aug 2017 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #32
..you, troll. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2017 #33
Take that Pizzagate bullshit elsewhere. Initech Aug 2017 #36
What have you got against libraries, girl? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #39
Pffft... you liberals with your knowledge and your facts! Initech Aug 2017 #50
I blame the lemurians. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #51
Get out of here you troll ... MyNameIsKhan Aug 2017 #37
Alerted on you. When you are removed, I shall laugh. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #40
I think she's gotten even weirder than the last time she stopped by. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #48
She? VermontKevin Aug 2017 #49
Library girl. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #84
Omg - she is still around? Funny. n/t Chemisse Aug 2017 #115
+10000000000000000000!!!!!! Initech Aug 2017 #34
Thank you Irish for this. If we survive this, let's hope that people will recognize those frauds still_one Aug 2017 #35
Or as Shane MacGowen would say: Eff youse all, eff youse all, eff youse all. panader0 Aug 2017 #38
I sense a faint trace of anger. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #41
YES betsuni Aug 2017 #42
Because it seems appropriate in context NotASurfer Aug 2017 #43
you say it so well spicysista Aug 2017 #44
Good luck over there. I am sorry our president is putting you in danger. Drunken Irishman Aug 2017 #55
Thank you. spicysista Aug 2017 #61
I raise a pint of Guinness to ya Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #45
Fuck them all for letting this happen to our country and our world. mtngirl47 Aug 2017 #46
This about sums it all up for me! No quarter given. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #47
I wanna throw in a fuck for Susan radical noodle Aug 2017 #53
locking due to rational thought Demonaut Aug 2017 #58
Fuck locking. Or lock fucking, I'm not sure which. nolabear Aug 2017 #60
I see we are back on this bullshit again. Gore1FL Aug 2017 #59
Me too. nt Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #88
You speak for me, DI SunSeeker Aug 2017 #62
Thank god somebody said it this week, with the proper number of "fuck you's" to the proper people. JCanete Aug 2017 #63
"One note rage" whathehell Aug 2017 #111
I'm also drinking tonight. hay rick Aug 2017 #65
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily! Initech Aug 2017 #75
Point taken. hay rick Aug 2017 #92
totally agree rtracey Aug 2017 #66
Hello, my friend. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #67
Here too. I'm aghast at the ones who voted FOR AllyCat Aug 2017 #96
Indeed. nt MADem Aug 2017 #68
Drunken Irishman, we need you back here on DU more oft. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #69
Through all this, we left out the obvious, so let me just add FUCK TRUMP world wide wally Aug 2017 #72
Thanks to most of you for treating this post . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #73
They should not curse. It sounds like hell.😱😝😂 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #80
fuck this..... dhill926 Aug 2017 #122
Your sympathy for Jill Stein is noted! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #129
Your irrationality is also noted FairWinds Aug 2017 #132
why am I irrational? hrmjustin Aug 2017 #138
And EVERYONE who said you have to give me something to vote FOR Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #76
+1 betsuni Aug 2017 #91
Who, exactly, is included in your definition of "all"? Marengo Aug 2017 #123
A vote for Stein was a vote for Trump Gothmog Aug 2017 #79
Nobody here would EVER start re-fighting the primaries. Flying Squirrel Aug 2017 #89
Stein was not a candidate in the Democratic primaries Gothmog Aug 2017 #93
GOP Deplorables did the robbery, Greens drove the getaway car. nt oasis Aug 2017 #95
I tolerated the Stein fans during the election. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #97
and fuck "Customer Care" that does everything possible to keep you from talking to a real person. NBachers Aug 2017 #98
I agree 100%, but........ SergeStorms Aug 2017 #100
What? No fucks for the Johnson voters? progressoid Aug 2017 #102
Shhh.. lol disillusioned73 Aug 2017 #118
There are russian bots, and there are the russian bought. C Moon Aug 2017 #105
Oh, I'd love to... jazzcat23 Aug 2017 #106
No more elections, no need for them people Raine Aug 2017 #107
Before the election RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #108
Careful, if you post things that make sense, someone might get offended! rwsanders Aug 2017 #109
Yup Raine Aug 2017 #157
Great to see the FUCK-A-THON is still rolling thunder. VOX Aug 2017 #110
And pants, fuck pants Amishman Aug 2017 #113
Jill Stein, anti-vaxxer and "wifi causes cancer" loon, hero of JPR Tarc Aug 2017 #114
Republican voters are evil; Green Party voters are stupid FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #116
Out of curiosity I'd like to hear the rest of the story.. disillusioned73 Aug 2017 #119
There should have been more Libertarian voters. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #140
Totally agree! DownriverDem Aug 2017 #117
110 million did not vote at all in 2016. alarimer Aug 2017 #120
Thanks, Drunken Irishman NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #124
Add Oliver Stone bhusar Aug 2017 #125
YES!!!! samnsara Aug 2017 #126
+1 treestar Aug 2017 #127
Great rant...100% agree, now Heartstrings Aug 2017 #128
And double fuck stage left Aug 2017 #131
FTW WhoIsNumberNone Aug 2017 #133
But..but.. Trump will bring the revolution? workinclasszero Aug 2017 #134
Do you feel better now? EOM tiredtoo Aug 2017 #137
Anyone who used the phrase "We need to 'shake things up'" . . . HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #139
yup Skittles Aug 2017 #141
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #142
And fuck this obsession with Jill Stein and the fucking Green party! LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #143
Your concern for our adversary is noted! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #146
I'm not concerned at all. I am not worried, and I am not obsessed. LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #148
We hate Jill Stein because she lied! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #149
She pointed out a couple of ways that Rs and Ds are similar. Especially with their relations LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #150
Yet here you are defending her as you usually do. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #151
LOL. "I'm not here to defend her," he says and proceeds to defend Jill Stein. Squinch Aug 2017 #154
I see the Green Party as a home for voters protesting both NCjack Aug 2017 #160
Yes I defend her right to lead a party if she thinks she has better ideas LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #163
Fuck the Media for enabling Trump dbackjon Aug 2017 #145
Yes fuck all those people on general principles. ImpeachTheGOP Aug 2017 #152
Gee, feel better now? IndieRick Aug 2017 #155
You get what you vote for NHDEMFORLIFE Aug 2017 #156
The nukes greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #159
Trump won't win. Good lord. Drunken Irishman Aug 2017 #162
Complaining about how democracy works doesn't win elections. ZX86 Aug 2017 #161

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
10. NO KIDDING. It's screwing up my spinach recipes.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:35 PM
Aug 2017

I'd like to get my hands on that decision maker.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
16. .....
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:44 PM
Aug 2017

And fuck coffee, because its almost down to half a lb.

And cereal, dont get me started...

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
83. Technically
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:33 PM
Aug 2017

I've found some to be as small as 1 3/8 x 3 1/4.

That tends to tick me off a bit, but what can ya do. (2x4 is the initial size before finish planing.)

panader0

(25,816 posts)
87. I've worked on several old buildings that had full size lumber.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:38 PM
Aug 2017

A real 2x4 or 1x12 is a real piece of wood. Bah, I'm too old.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
90. Must've been nice
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:42 PM
Aug 2017

not having to deal with all those fractions. Sometimes I'm tempted to go metric.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
99. I worked at a sawmill for a while
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:27 AM
Aug 2017

The dimensions given are what from the first cut on rough cut on the main cutting deck

that is before it goes to the kiln obviously this shrinks the wood

the rough wood is then run though a planer which is a upsized version of the one in your shop


at least that is the way it was done at the the Molpus Lumber Co. about 40 years ago



 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
28. And what about those cans of pumpkin
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:56 PM
Aug 2017

that are really butternut squash and are 15 or 29 oz instead of 16 and 32? Not to mention hot dogs 10 to a pack and buns 8 to a pack.

Don't even get me started on the snack sized chips.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
52. Ok
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:35 PM
Aug 2017

I just bought a can of libbys pumpkin to make pumpkin bread. So you're telling me its not pumpkin?

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
81. It depends on who you talk to.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:30 PM
Aug 2017

It definitely doesn't come from pumpkins like the ones we carve. It comes from the Dickinson variety of squash specifically developed for pie by Libby's. The FDA allows it to be labeled "pumpkin" even though it's closer to a squash.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/canned-pumpkin-pie-filling_n_5941122.html

http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-actually-in-your-canned-pumpkin-puree-ingredient-intelligence-69123

But Snopes says that it's not "butternut squash", if that makes you feel better.

http://www.snopes.com/canned-pumpkin-isnt-actually-pumpkin/

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
153. They really cheat you with those snack sized bags.They color the package so you can't see...
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:21 PM
Aug 2017

that it's only half full.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
57. "And fuck frozen vegetables now 14 oz bags, not 16."
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:43 PM
Aug 2017

I hear you.

We're paying just as much for a 14 oz sized bag of frozen fruits or veggies as we did for a 16 oz bag

I don't eat meat--I eat a LOT of fruits, veggies, tofu, grains, beans, peas, greens and ALL of those have gone way up in cost.

Danmel

(5,778 posts)
71. And fuck those 6 oz "cups" of yogurt
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 10:42 PM
Aug 2017

A cup is a unit of measure. 8 ounces, not 6
If a recipe calls for 8 ounces of yogurt, now I have to buy 2 cups.
Fuck that shit. Seriously.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
86. I agree completely and I have said as much before.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:38 PM
Aug 2017

It's even more true now as we are on the brink of catastrophe. I check the news more than usual just to see if we are at war with N. Korea. However, some people find an occasional dose of levity helps them get through tough times

trc

(830 posts)
82. Murlocs...too right.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:30 PM
Aug 2017

sneaky little fish eating, shit stealing bastards...and those spears, from under the beach...wtf.
RRRRGGGGRRRRGGGGLLLL THIS mother fucker!

Ninsianna

(1,354 posts)
135. It's really interesting who isn't angry here, as American citizens
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:59 PM
Aug 2017

are advised about what to do in case of a nuclear bombing.

Same people seem to be awfully upset that RT is being called out for what it is, a Russian propaganda outfit.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
136. I know who is who, and they are now trying to kill me so I am not joking about
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:00 PM
Aug 2017

it anymore

thanks for also noticing

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
104. And birthday cards now $ 3.50 to $5.00+ instead of $1.49 to $2.99 max.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:27 AM
Aug 2017

I'd rather spend the $3.50 to $5.00 on a birthday treat for the honoree than on a card.

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
144. I've heard that Dollar Store is good for cards, and calendars, etc.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:10 PM
Aug 2017

They aren't on my usual route for shopping, so I have to weigh convenience with price.
Mostly, I now use blank cards sent from charities - Alzheimer's Assoc., etc.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
147. I stock up when I go, which isn't often
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:51 PM
Aug 2017

They usual have "occasion" box set at very decent prices.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. There's much fucking to be done, but I'm up to it.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

So to speak.

Add: Fuck Julian Assange, too.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
13. Ditto
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:39 PM
Aug 2017

This is my frame of mind right now too. I'm so angry, there are times I cant even speak....

Theres a fuckitol pill somewhere for this, but I cant figure out how to add the graphic. : p

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
25. Drunken Irishman, I agree
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:51 PM
Aug 2017

That being said,

like my mother said to me all those years ago in the seventies in County Clare,

Tommy, your fucking language is fucking atrocious. (Joking).

fuck them all to hell.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
30. Green party voters saw the Nazis at the gate and still voted third party so screw them.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:59 PM
Aug 2017

Jill Stein voters should be ashamed of themselves!

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Initech

(108,783 posts)
36. Take that Pizzagate bullshit elsewhere.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

It's a bullshit story and has been proven to be bullshit.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
50. Pffft... you liberals with your knowledge and your facts!
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:30 PM
Aug 2017

Talk to the hand because the face don't want to hear it!

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
35. Thank you Irish for this. If we survive this, let's hope that people will recognize those frauds
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

and false prophets and not be swayed by their bullshit


spicysista

(1,731 posts)
44. you say it so well
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

I'm trying to hold everything together and stay pleasant for my hubby (currently serving 1 year unaccompanied in Korea), while keeping the family calm in this insane world. I just don't know what to say to the vanity/no voters. But, what you said....really hits the spot! I'm ready for all parts of the coalition to come together....but this man! Omg! I really feel you.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
45. I raise a pint of Guinness to ya
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:18 PM
Aug 2017

Suspect you may have had a couple.

BTW, didn't see it but fuck Susan Sarandon too. Well I always wanted to but not in that way now.

mtngirl47

(1,243 posts)
46. Fuck them all for letting this happen to our country and our world.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:21 PM
Aug 2017

Fuck them all for messing up my peaceful life with fucking breaking news every fucking day.



 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
63. Thank god somebody said it this week, with the proper number of "fuck you's" to the proper people.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 10:03 PM
Aug 2017

Who will step up next week and vent our one-note rage for us? Big K&R from me! Because these ops saying the same things that have been said a zillion times with as little variation or insight as possible always get a lot of K&Rs and I don't want this one to be any different.

Raine1967

(11,676 posts)
67. Hello, my friend.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 10:19 PM
Aug 2017

I stand with you in all the *Fuck you* 's

She was not my first choice. When my first choice dropped out, I decided to go with the party nominee.

I did it with a full heart and open mind.

FUCK THEM ALL.

Raine1967

(11,676 posts)
69. Drunken Irishman, we need you back here on DU more oft.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 10:27 PM
Aug 2017

Christ almighty I miss the Obama's as you do.

I know we were both on the fence about HRC. I was an O'Malley supporter. he dropped out and i sat on the sidelines waiting for the nominee. I went full throated support for our nominee.

Fuck Jill Stein.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
73. Thanks to most of you for treating this post . .
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:01 PM
Aug 2017

with the derision it deserves.

would it be too much trouble to go after our actual opponents?

without the F-bombs?

sprinkleeninow

(22,346 posts)
80. They should not curse. It sounds like hell.😱😝😂
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:29 PM
Aug 2017


The potty mouths were in full force this evening at our residence. Pox on the Poxy one.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
76. And EVERYONE who said you have to give me something to vote FOR
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 11:17 PM
Aug 2017

FUCK THEM too

Now that they have KILLED us all, I DARE THEM to open their FUCKING MOUTH

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
97. I tolerated the Stein fans during the election.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 12:08 AM
Aug 2017

I thought they were just venting but would vote for Clinton when push came to shove. But I still see them constantly talking down the Democrats online to the point where I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing them from Republicans. It is fine to criticize the Democrats for making mistakes or for not doing enough on this or that issue, but these people seem to have some kind of irrational vendetta against anyone who does not meet their ideological purity test. Some even called Bernie Sanders a sellout for campaigning with Clinton during the general election.

The Steinbots actually think they are some kind of Silent Majority and everyone else is just brainwashed. They are not much different from the right-wing cranks who watch Alex Jones.

NBachers

(19,439 posts)
98. and fuck "Customer Care" that does everything possible to keep you from talking to a real person.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:11 AM
Aug 2017

"You are now back to the point where you started from. Would you like to repeat this pointless waste of time again? Press 1 for yes, or 2 for no. You can also access our Knowledge Base online at www.goodlucksucker.com"

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
100. I agree 100%, but........
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:04 AM
Aug 2017

what about Hillary's emails?



I know, it was in poor taste, but I did reject the urge to throw the "f" word in there. I feel it's been a tad bit overused in this thread.

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
106. Oh, I'd love to...
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:37 AM
Aug 2017

Fuck Trump...with a big purple dildo right up his fat ass. And with a big grin, I'd say "sit on this and spin!" I am now more concerned than ever that my grandson, who is NOT in school, will be in war. I always said within 6 months to a year we will be in nuke hell because trumpy is soooo clueless, and his mouth always getting in the way. By padding his ego, as usual, we will have no time to say goodbye....

VOX

(22,976 posts)
110. Great to see the FUCK-A-THON is still rolling thunder.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:40 AM
Aug 2017

Has anyone upthread already wished a hearty fuck-you to Stephen Miller?

Dibs if not.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
119. Out of curiosity I'd like to hear the rest of the story..
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:09 AM
Aug 2017

Libertarian voter =
Democratic voter =
1/2 the country non-voter =

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
140. There should have been more Libertarian voters.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:41 PM
Aug 2017

Trust me, Johnson voters were never going for Clinton. If anything, more Libertarian votes would have helped our side by taking disgruntled Republican votes away.

Democratic voter = Did the right thing. When Fascism is afoot, you don't just let it happen.

1/2 the country non-voter = 1/2 the blame (the other half being, of course, those who actively pulled the lever for Schtroumpf thinking giving that idiot the reins was a great idea).

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
117. Totally agree!
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:03 AM
Aug 2017

We were all warned. Young folks have the most to lose rights wise and militarily wise. If trump starts a war guess who will be needed to fight it? Then consider how the Supreme Court is now firmly RW for decades. Remember that with every decision that makes you angry. We have a two party system, no matter how folks want to spin it. The Dems are a 100% better than the repubs of today. Our focus is to beat the crap out of the repubs. I will never understand why left leaners who voted 3rd party didn't get the message. They must be way too politically naïve. They will see day by day what their foolish vote did to our country.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
120. 110 million did not vote at all in 2016.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:12 AM
Aug 2017

Almost as many as all the other candidates got combined. Something like 45% of eligible voters DID NOT vote. We should focus on what we can do to get out the vote; how do Democrats reach those non-voters? How do we make it easier to vote in the first place? Anger and blame at this point is useless. Maybe it feels good to hate everyone who isn't you and to feel self-righteous in your correctness, but it won't actually solve anything.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
124. Thanks, Drunken Irishman
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:00 AM
Aug 2017

You said what I've been thinking ever since Nov. 8. It's unbelievable how many people think this is a fucking joke. We are in a state of emergency.

bhusar

(131 posts)
125. Add Oliver Stone
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:19 AM
Aug 2017

Also a Jill Stein supporter who's only concern is us going to war with Russia

treestar

(82,383 posts)
127. +1
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:49 AM
Aug 2017

Donald more than any previous R was not one worth risking getting into the Presidency over that kind of thinking.

stage left

(3,307 posts)
131. And double fuck
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 12:09 PM
Aug 2017

the morons who are still saying Trump was the lesser are two evils. Fuck em until they're brain dead. Nevermind, they already are.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
134. But..but.. Trump will bring the revolution?
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:56 PM
Aug 2017

To bad millions may have to die a horrendous death because Hillary was just not pure enough for the fuckng greens and JPR assholes!

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
139. Anyone who used the phrase "We need to 'shake things up'" . . .
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:38 PM
Aug 2017

.. . . needs kicked dead in the ass for all eternity.

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
143. And fuck this obsession with Jill Stein and the fucking Green party!
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:26 PM
Aug 2017

A party who gets 1% of the vote. A party that is probably in line with 90% of the Democratic party platform. This paranoid obsession is disturbing on here. There is a better way to make the Green party irrelevant, and that is to usurp much of their platform, make it be clearly understood that Democrats are not bought and sold to the corporacracy. The rightward shift that the Democratic party did in the last 30 years opened up room for a more left party to wedge itself in. What did they think would happen when they decided to move right to fill in the gap where the Republicans shifted extreme tea bagger right?

Just get back to your core principles Democrats, and the Green party will become even more irrelevant. Jill Stein, and Ralph Nader are not bad people. What in the Green party platform do you object to? They just saw a gap, and need for one sector of people that were not being represented, and jumped in. They have every right to in an open democracy. This whole school yard taunting and teasing is embarrassing.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
148. I'm not concerned at all. I am not worried, and I am not obsessed.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:55 PM
Aug 2017

At least you used the proper term. She is our adversary. I think Americans are so used to the two party system that they cannot even fathom the idea of multiple parties like almost every other nation has. Its like they do not have a right to exist. It sure is noted on election years when Democrats and Republicans collude in keeping other parties out of the debates. That only narrows the topics, and narrows the ideas brought forth to the American public.

I can understand why she and the Greens are regarded as competition. That is understandable. What I don't understand is the palpaple hatred towards her. If you listed all the things she would want for America, the Green platform, and then listed everything Trump and the GOP would want for America, it would be night and day. One party would clearly be ethically, morally, very close to Democratic party ideals, while the other is a corrupt cesspool. Why is Jill hated even more than the GOP? If you don't like her taking away votes from Democrats, then address the issues she is addressing! Not rocket science.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
149. We hate Jill Stein because she lied!
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:02 PM
Aug 2017

She said Republicans and Democrats are the same and that is a lie. She said Hillary and orange man were one in the same. She portrayed Hillary as a war monger which we all know is not true.

She is entitled to say these things and people can vote how they like but on this board she is regarded as the enemy because she is.

And if you think we hate her more than the GOP then you are not paying attention.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
150. She pointed out a couple of ways that Rs and Ds are similar. Especially with their relations
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:10 PM
Aug 2017

with Wall Street. In order to differentiate her and the Greens. That is what she does as an "adversary" from another party.

I'm not here to defend her. I just find the foaming hatred, yes that is what I see on here, somewhat confounding. She is 'regarded as the enemy' because.............

.....she is.

Brilliant.

Squinch

(59,522 posts)
154. LOL. "I'm not here to defend her," he says and proceeds to defend Jill Stein.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:35 PM
Aug 2017

Just too easy.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
160. I see the Green Party as a home for voters protesting both
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:16 PM
Aug 2017

DEM and GOP candidates. If the Green Party had dissolved before election day, I believe that the abandoned members would have stayed home. That is, there was no path to ever get enough Greenies to vote DEM to make a difference. Chasing after Greenies appears to me to be a losing strategy. They didn't like what we offered in 2016 and they wont like what we offer in 2018 and 20.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
145. Fuck the Media for enabling Trump
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:10 PM
Aug 2017

Fuck the Media for their false equivalencies.

Fuck the Media for not calling out Trump for his racism, sexism, misogyny, pussy-grabbing.

Fuck the Media for not harping on his refusal to release his taxes.

Fuck the Media for the false narrative that Hillary is just as corrupt as Trump.

 

ImpeachTheGOP

(89 posts)
152. Yes fuck all those people on general principles.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 06:21 PM
Aug 2017

But no nukes are going to be flying. This is all a dog and pony show on both sides.

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
156. You get what you vote for
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:05 PM
Aug 2017

And if you sit it out with an absolute moron poised to take over the government, shame on you.
And voting for Jill Stein meets the definition of sitting it out.

greytdemocrat

(3,300 posts)
159. The nukes
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:45 PM
Aug 2017

aren't going to fly. Good lord.

If stupid Kimmy does push his button they will
be brought down by us and we don't need nukes
to respond.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
161. Complaining about how democracy works doesn't win elections.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:37 PM
Aug 2017

It's not the job of the Republicans and Green Party members to win elections for Democrats. That's our job. We have to field candidates that can win. Putting up sub-par candidates then yelling "fuck you" over and over might make you feel good but it doesn't win elections. Votes are earned. Not owed. No amount of vote shaming is going to change that. "Fuck you" is not a winning campaign slogan.

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