We Need To Talk About The Anti-Semitism At The Charlottesville Protest.

[grossproffit]

This weekend, self-identifying white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis marched on the University of Virginia campus in Charlottesville and violently protested in the town, ending with the death of at least one person and leaving dozens more injured. People across the country condemned the events. In addition to the horror of watching those hateful humans march in broad daylight without fearing any consequences, I found it disturbing that many people, including liberals and progressives, didn’t acknowledge the hateful anti-Semitic comments made by these Nazis. In some cases, they tried to argue that they didn’t happen.

Think of those who believe the protesters from Unite the Right weren’t saying “Jew will not replace us,” but “You will not replace us.” Actress Olivia Wilde posted an Instagram on behalf of her mother, a candidate for the House of Representatives, that talked about Nazism and Nazi language, but made no mention of Jews or anti-Semitism. Bernie Sanders mentioned neo-Nazis in a tweet but didn’t talk of Jews or anti-Semitism.

This strange in-between of calling out Nazis without directly acknowledging their hate towards Jews made me heave a very, very long sigh.

While narratives try to say otherwise, America also has a long, violent, and discriminatory history with Jews. Ever heard of the lynching of Jewish-American engineer Leo Frank? The glaring anti-Semitism of celebrated American industrialist Henry Ford? The Johnson-Reed Act of 1924 that used geographic targeting to keep Jews from immigrating to the U.S.? In recent months we’ve seen over 100 Jewish schools and centers receive bomb threats and numerous Jewish cemeteries vandalized in targeted attacks.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/167810/anti-semitism-charlottesville-protest

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Yeah, or that thing where the guy said "We've got an oven waiting for you"

I'm sure he was just offering, uh, legitimate criticism of Israel's policies, or something.

[Solly Mack]

2. K&R

I heard what they said and I saw some of their signs.

Anti-semitism was on full display.

[CozyMystery]

3. Yeah, I noticed that. I wondered why the anti-Semitism is being ignored, too. Makes me mad.

[grossproffit]

6. It should. This rally was about pure Jewish hatred. How so many can willfully ignore it sickens me.

[Blue_true]

11. Look, if you know that a poorly cared for dog has fleas, does pointing that out add anything.

Nazis hate Jewish people for no reason. Why don't we focus on eliminating Nazis.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. Because the anti-semitism is a cornerstone of the ideology, for starts?

[mucifer]

4. So why single out Bernie and not Hillary regarding this?

There statements were similar.

Just curious.

He's the one who had relatives murdered by the nazis.

I'm Jewish, too. The events were horribly disturbing. A black man was badly beaten in the head by 4 nazis.

To me the definition of the word nazi is antisemitism and racism. So if they used the word nazi, antisemitism is clear.

[grossproffit]

8. Antisemitism has become normalized. It's time to recognize this and deal with it head on.

[m-lekktor]

13. yeah i noticed that too. nt

[Not Ruth]

5. White Christian terror needs to be addressed

[riderinthestorm]

7. Thanks for bringing this. K&R nt

[grossproffit]

9. It's heartbreaking to see this topic fall to the bottom. I thought today would have been different.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. No surprise.

People will defend almost every minority out there, except Jews. Most people defending Jews are Jews. We have very few allies, and the ones we do have need to work overtime.

There is an old saying that goes...

"The English hate the French, who hate the Germans, who hate the Turks, who hate the Greeks, but everybody hates the Jews!"

It was true then, and it is true now. It doesn't matter how raucous the Nazis get, the only thing people focus on is their racism. Anti-Semitism? Unworthy of discussion. FFS, look at the number of threads about these events and there are almost no comments or reactions to the anti-Semitism, most articles don't even bother to mention the anti-Semitism.

I posted an article from a Jewish news source in the Jewish group and the first goddamned comment was dismissive of the actual article. We aren't seen as "real" Americans worthy of respect; we aren't seen as a "real" minority deserving of protection. What makes matters worse are those who aren't just ignoring the anti-Semitism, but using this opportunity to engage in low-level anti-Semitism themselves, by basically trying to pin this on Jews in the "president's" administration by listing them all off. All the talk of Jared and Ivanka and making it "all about the money", basically relying on the anti-Semitic trope of money-grubbing Jews. But be sure, there will be so-called "experts" (who aren't Jewish) to come along and dictate what is and isn't anti-Semitism, and how it should or shouldn't be discussed, and when it is appropriate. If they decide they want to hear a Jewish opinion, they will shop it out. These are the same people who decry "mansplainin'" and "whitesplainin'", but think nothing of "Gentilesplainin'" to Jews!

Until something big happens to a bunch of Jews, very few people will give two shits, and if something (more likely "when&quot is to happen, then expect the keys to come out and start jingling because the discussions still won't be about anti-Semitism but about everything but!

[leftynyc]

23. I didn't see anything on TV

about the hateful things being said about Jews "taking over the country" while I did see it mentioned on twitter - by Jews. And like you said, even here (which is far too typical) the charge was dismissed and diminished. The far left has become just as bad, just as hateful, just as dismissive of real anti Jewish sentiment as the right has become. Fucking depressing.

[Blue_true]

10. I have always taken it as a given that American Nazis and KKK hate Jewish people.

Anyone sees that. That is one more reason that the backs of American Nazis and the KKK must be broken for once and for ever in this country.

[Drahthaardogs]

14. It all needs to go. Screw this heritage crap.

It is a heritage of treason against the U. S. government upon which they waged war. It was founded in an idea of slavery. Raze it all to the ground, seed it with salt, and be done with it.

[lovemydogs]

15. For me, It's personal

My ex husband was adopted and way back when we were young and new parents, he never had a desire to know his background.
Then, several months ago my daughter tells me he did that test that tells you your background. Turns out he is half Italian and half Jewish.
This makes my daughter Jewish.
My mother was a child in France during the Nazi take over. She lived under Nazi rule while my grandfather, a policeman, was part of the underground.
Hearing the stories I felt deep sadness over what happened to the Jews in Europe during WWII
Now I find my daughter is descended from the jewish tribe that suffered from the Nazis.
So, I feel an affinity for the antifa
And the garbage being spewed about Jews by the alt right, et.al. these days hits me personally. They are hating on my beloved daughter. And my precious granddaughters.

[oberliner]

16. Jews will not replace us: Why white supremacists go after Jews

Excerpt:

They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer — ‘See-ner’ — how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/?utm_term=.ede71faf9363

[Behind the Aegis]

18. KICK!

[haveahart]

19. Saying nothing at all about Son-in-Law-in Chief saying nothing at all.

He is slime to me.

Say their names: Goodman and Schwerner

They gave their lives for civil rights and justice.

The only way to get people to talk about it is to talk about it every chance you get.

[grossproffit]

20. I never knew this: Ulysses Grant "singled out Jews as a class and expelled them from the territory

The discrimination towards Jews hasn’t just come from blatant white supremacists, either; when future president Ulysses S. Grant was a general in the Union Army during the Civil War, he singled out Jews “as a class” and expelled them from the territory he was commanding from Mississippi to Illinois over accusations that they smuggled goods between the Union and the Confederacy.

From original article.

[TexasBushwhacker]

21. K&r

[Adrahil]

22. Isn't it taken for granted that Nazis and Klansmen...

Hate Jews?

I mean, I assume anti-semitism is a main ingredient with anything cooked up by those fuckwits.

Not that I'm against talking more about it...

[Behind the Aegis]

27. Yes, but it is often ignored.

That is a real problem when one of the main ingredients in their venomous rhetoric is constantly ignored or people switch to other subjects, thereby marginalizing anti-Semitism and the threats against Jews.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. One would think.

But, no.

[grossproffit]

24. Kicked from page 3.

[Behind the Aegis]

38. Ditto!

Do check out some of the OPs from Jewish posters who are coming out and speaking out! It is nice to see!!

[MineralMan]

25. Nazis, new and old, hate the "OTHERS," and that means

everyone who is not them. Yes, they meant Jews. They always mean Jews. And blacks, and browns, and people who speak strangely. Gays, lesbians, people with disabilities, people who wear odd clothing. The over-educated, people who believe in different deities or no deities at all, people who believe in everyone being equal. In fact, everyone who is not exactly like they are is suspect.

If you are not them, you are an OTHER, and are subject to hatred, violence and even death.

If you are not them, you are in danger from them.

[underpants]

26. Friday day afternoon the local RW radio guy, who is Jewish, backed

Them

His name is Jeff Katz and he's the afternoon drive time guy on WRVA 1140. Hannity is on tape delay at 6.

Paraphrasing
"Look I know who they are and they ARE anti-Semitic but they are right on this"


It became clear on Friday night - after he'd said this - that it wasn't about the monument or the name of the park. This was a Hate Pride Parade.

Radio webpage
http://1140wrva.iheart.com/featured/jeff-katz/

FB
https://m.facebook.com/The-Jeff-Katz-Show-109022842469011/

Twitter
https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffkatzshow?lang=en

[nolabear]

28. The brief foray I made to Faux they were more upset about "fuck"

coming from the guy they were interviewing than than the fact that he was saying horrible things about Jews. There was no mistaking it. And they kept apologizing for the f-bombs. Not word ONE about the hate speech.

[Meowmee]

29. Agree completely

A lot more needs to be said. Don Lemon and Van jones both said something about the disgusting anti Semitic chants etc tonight. I'm just watching a rerun.

[EllieBC]

30. Kick and thank you for posting this.

It's been a hard weekend. In the order of minorities people give a damn about, we rank at the bottom.

[grossproffit]

31. Tiki Torches rank higher than posts on antisemitism.

[EllieBC]

32. There was a thread about Ivanka's roots (she highlights her hair).

That got more replies than your average thread about antisemites.

So, we rank below tiki torches and foil highlights. Sad state of affairs.

[grossproffit]

34. We need a Jewish Lives Matter movement.

[Behind the Aegis]

35. Now THERE whould be a small rally.

Sadly.

[uponit7771]

33. +1

[steve2470]

39. kick and rec! nt