HBO Vice Embedded A Reporter With The Charlottesville Nazis

[Foamfollower]

You MUST watch this. I knew the Nazis were this evil, but they've been EMBOLDENED by our NAZI PRESIDENT and instead of trying to be all nice and put a happy face on Nazism, like David Duke attempted to do for years, they are now OPENLY expressing the exact VILE EVIL they have always been.

Please keep this kicked for others to see.

[VermontKevin]

1. Kick.

[dalton99a]

2. The only good Nazi is a dead one.

Never forget

[Orrex]

9. I was scolded on FB this morning for my hatred of Nazis

No lie--the idiot actually wrote "If you truly hate them that much, then you scare me as much as they do."

Go fuck yourself, I say. That is exactly the sort of kumbaya bullshit that encourages Nazis to march openly under their genocidal banner.

There are only three possible positions on this:

1. Nazi
2. Enabler of Nazis
3. Hater of Nazis

If you are an enabler (i.e., if you claim to be "neutral," or you insist that "all violence is bad" ) then you're on the wrong side of history.


I know where I stand.

[dalton99a]

10. No matter how they couch it, their aim is genocide - to kill and exterminate people.

There is no dialog or compromise in their agenda.

[AllyCat]

45. Weird because we are watching Dr Who

Right now and the Daleks are yelling "exterminate" and the humans are saying the only good Daley is a dead one.

What about Mandela (and Obama) saying they can learn to love? Can we not show them another way?

[MindPilot]

66. Daleks are Nazis.

Any encounter the Dr has with the Daleks drives home the idea that totalitarian master-race ideologies are given no quarter any where or any time.

Daleks--just like Nazis--are irredeemable. They cannot be reasoned with or taught "another way". They have to be destroyed.

[Foamfollower]

117. People forget the Daleks were created only 18 years after WWII ended.

Of course they were the sci-fi Dr. Who analogy of Pure Nazism.

[TheBlackAdder]

184. Yes, but Tom Baker's Doctor had the chance to erradicate them and chose not to do so.

He weighed the killing of a species against the harm and destruction they would do throughout the galaxy.

He chose to allow the death and destruction to occur.

[Kentonio]

133. Did Mandela or Obama ever say that about nazis?

[AllyCat]

194. They talked about hate being learned

And love can be learned too.

[underpants]

29. Yes the sympathizers are out on FB.

As I posted yesterday


Are you agreeing with Nazis?
A simple Yes/No question.
If the answer is Yes find a mirror, stare yourself directly in the eye, and say 10 times "I'm agreeing with Nazis".

This covers justifying them, creating a diversion for them, giving them cover, any form of support or complaining about other groups.

Yes or No

[Orrex]

32. I like it!

Succinct and basically unassailable.

[underpants]

38. Some of them are lost in the forrest

Not to give them cover but they are so condi the repeat whatever their f'ed up news source of choice tells them they don't see the trees.

They clearly don't see this moment as a watershed. Yes or No. very simple.

[PaddyIrishman]

189. Yes, the Nathan Bedford Forrest

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

134. Nazi is a one of the filthiest of the four letter words.

One should feel like spitting after saying it. Anyone who identifies as one or sides with them needs to know they are part of something evil.

[broadcaster90210]

30. +1

nt

[SunSeeker]

34. No doubt that person was happy with Trump's earlier words condemning all "sides" in Charlottesville.

What bizarro world have we entered when hatred of Nazis is put in the same category as Nazi's genocidal, racist hatred?

[gopiscrap]

50. I agree

[yardwork]

58. Do they say this to WW II veterans?

[Orrex]

69. Here's the latest:

When I asked him if 6 million dead Jews would have preferred a nonviolent response to Hitler, he said "You know that his surname is a Jewish name, right?"

So I replied "Yes of course, and that's irrelevant to the question. My heritage is Ukrainian, and I suspect that 7 to 10 million dead Ukrainians weren't comforted by the fact that no one gave a violent response to Stalin."

He then accused me of living in a fantasy land of Nazi-fighting. Thereupon I told him to "Go fuck yourself non-violently," and I blocked him.

[yardwork]

128. His comment about Hitler's name is a tell. He's a neo-Nazi.

That's one of their favorite excuses. Claiming that Hitler was really a Jew means that the holocaust never happened. Standard holocaust denier crap.

[Orrex]

135. Bad writing by my part

his surname was meant to refer to the name of the guy was interacting with, but I didn't want to give his true name.

In fairness to him, I have no reason to doubt that my debate opponent is Jewish.

[yardwork]

140. Oh, got it!

[Orrex]

72. And the later latest:

Him:

Is Heather Heyer's mother calling for mass retaliation? Or is she engaging in preachy moralism and pacifict claptrap?

(The bit about "preachy moralism" is him throwing my words back at me. Fair enough)

Me:

Way to exploit her before her body is cold. Very classy of you.

Her murderer has been arrested and will face justice.

If people were dying in large numbers, and their killers were not being arrested, how many would have to die before your pollyanna nonviolence would stop the killing? What is an acceptable number of innocent dead, in your view, before a violent response is justified? Six million? Seven to ten million?

[onit2day]

99. Hard to have compassion for evil haters

We must stand firm but don't rule out compassion where possible to guide them to overcome the hate. The best question for anyone is when was the last time you admitted you were wrong...about anything. Most were not born Nazis. Humanity is there somewhere

[Orrex]

110. LOL. The last I admitted I was wrong was this morning, here on DU!

Kind of got my rhetorical ass handed to me, so credit where due.

Still, your point is well-taken.

Although I know that some skinhead and white-supremacist types have indeed (famously) gotten their heads out of their asses, I'm not sure that I'm qualified (or, frankly, willing) to guide them on that journey, and I know for a fact that I would never be able to have that conversation with the mob while the mob is waving torches.

[FiveGoodMen]

147. They came from hell and that's where they belong

Fuck compassion.

Anyone who starts the kind of trouble that they have deserves any punishment they can possibly get.

God damn all fascists.

They should get no sympathy, no forgiveness, no quarter.

[heaven05]

174. do really think

that as a man with brown pigment as skin covering, do you really think these racist, evil clowns would have compassion on me IF, like the people who are maimed for life and grievously injured trying to protest their evil, I stood in their way preaching love and compassion.....I don't. In a crowd like this my only option would be to take a few with me. Period....and I would enjoy watching them bleed. It is really coming down to them or us. The boy-potus enabled this situation, encouraged their violence in 15 months of racist dog whistle campaign bombast, now he has his brownshirt thugs and they have been loosed by him on america. Compassion for these POS? Never.

Whether or not born nazi or racist, they are now nazi and racist....

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

124. I would like to believe that most Americans stand with you as well.

We must condemn this "movement" unequivocally. These are deranged, dangerous people.

[Rhythm]

166. Standing right beside you, Orrex...

[Oneironaut]

98. +1 Nazism is a cancer.

[Fresh_Start]

3. K&R for visibility

more of their faces

[workinclasszero]

4. I agree...everyone needs to watch this...this is the base of the republican party

These f**kers are nazi killers.

[arthritisR_US]

17. Wouldn't that mean they are out hunting nazi's to kill?

[workinclasszero]

19. PoC, Jews

and anyone else that stands in their way.

Their leader Trump just tweeted a image of a train running over a news reporter days after a crazed nazi ran over and killed a counter protester just to let the nazi's know he still has their back.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

48. Ugh, I didn't know that.

I thought I couldn't be more disgusted.





I don't think I can stand to watch the vid. Not at the moment anyway. I was just reading tweets...that's enough mindless arrogant hate for today.

[workinclasszero]

51. Yes..this man is our 'president' God help us.

It is a hard video to watch no doubt. To see the depths of hate these people have sunk to is revolting.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

54. god....goddamn....

I'm reduced to stunned exclamations.



Did you happen to notice if it's captioned? A lot of my friends are Deaf.


Oh, edit to add, I totally agree that this should be shown around with educational explanation as a preventive against normalization.

[workinclasszero]

63. The video is captioned

Just click the cc symbol at the bottom.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

122. Thank you! :) n/t

[Alwaysna]

64. I have deaf friends too

My husband was deaf (recently deceased) . He and some of his friends were planning to vote Trump. He passed away Oct 29, before the election. One of his friends is an avid Trumper and can't understand why I'm pissed. Not only am I a democrat but female with biracial grandchildren I dearly love. I worry about my grandkids growing up here in Missouri.

[thbobby]

103. Trump is amazing

Ever since birtherism I thought "I couldn't think less of him".

Every fucking day the shitbucket proves me wrong.

[nini]

5. Jesus Mary and Joseph

This is excellent and makes me want to puke

[Cosmocat]

18. Yep

[Johnny2X2X]

6. This is Trump's base

These White Supremacists think that most white people are just like them, but are too afraid to come forward. They are wrong. They are a minority, we used to think a very small minority, but Trump proved that wrong. Good people do outnumber evil people, but the evil among us has definitely grown in their numbers because of Trump.

[heaven05]

175. I think good germans

thought the same thing about the rising evil after 1933. 66million, at least voted for the potus POS. No doubt some are good americans, yet they like the good germans are being swept along by the rabid hatred spewed by boy-potus POS and enabled by fox news, the rich hateful billionaires and trillionaires that funded this potus POS and his campaign. Pollyanna ain't going to get it. We are headed for a bloody 4 years in this country, if this potus POS stays in office and grows his brownshirt thug private army.....

[VMA131Marine]

7. The thing with White Supremacists is ....

I never see any evidence of their supremacy. Mostly they are low information, chronic under achievers with an inferiority complex. They contribute nothing to society. They are takers; moochers if you will.

[dalton99a]

11. 99% are losers whose only accomplishment in life is being born white.

[Stallion]

14. Well One Acheived the Rank of Chef at Top Dog

...until he was fired.

its got to be pretty tough to cook a hot dog

[ck4829]

15. Dunning-Kruger effect in play

They feel their whiteness alone means that they are automatically peers of Johann Sebastian Bach or Bill Gates.

[SweetieD]

22. I didn't watch the whole thing but I looked up the guy she interviewed in first few minutes and

He has a profile on the SPLC. He is an extreme loser with drug issues in his past.

[VMA131Marine]

112. and now he has lots of guns .....

[Duppers]

105. "low information....with an inferiority complex"

Bingo!! THAT says it all!! Thank you, VMA131Marine.

There's a lot of pathology underneath this behavior, which includes cultural conditioning. This is their desperate attempt to feel important.

As so many here have said, racism is nothing more than feeling superior simply because you were born white. They want to hang their hats on that because they have nothing else in their lives.

[better]

129. You are correct, of course...

But let us never lose sight of the role that the wealthy and powerful have played in that conditioning. Though obviously those who fall for it are in no way absolved by this being true, the shit they fall for is centuries in the making, and has always been aimed at keeping poor whites blaming non-whites for their continued poverty, rather than the wealthy and powerful who have systematically shaped the nation so as to keep the masses beneath them.

They're not angry because non-whites are a threat to white people.
They're angry because poor whites and non-whites united are a threat to greedy rich people.

They just don't realize that's why they've been taught to be angry.

[Duppers]

130. Well said! Thank you.

Indeed, they are unknowingly being pawns.

[better]

141. Actually, I should be more careful with things like that

It is certainly true that my Trump-supporting neighbor, for example, is at worst an unwitting pawn in the horror inflicted by this administration. Actual malicious racism (on the part of people by whom he is informed) is arguably at play in his opposition to the things he opposes and support for the things he supports, yet he does not exhibit any signs of actual racism. And while that doesn't make his support of politicians on the basis of fantasy any less dangerous, it does make it less insidious.

The same, however, should never be implied of the likes of nazis and white supremacists.

And that, coincidentally, pretty well captures what so many who voted for Trump failed to register about the "deplorables" comment: That what makes one deplorable is not whom one supports.

It's WHY one supports them.

[thbobby]

109. Supreme Leeches

The only way haters can justify themselves is to find a group to hate more than themselves.

Their thought process: "I am a piece of shit, but at least I am better than ..."

The GOP has adopted these haters ever since LBJ and civil rights. The "southern strategy" is the basis of today's republican psyche.

[grossproffit]

8. Somebody like Donald Trump who does not give his daughter to a Jew.

[lindysalsagal]

91. Or make a foreigner the first lady. Or deal with russia for profit. Ignorant losers.

[Maggiemayhem]

150. Yes! When he made that comment

I just wanted to throw up. He said he wanted someone like Trump but even more racist.

[Upthevibe]

187. I know!!!!! That whole thing was f'in unbelievable! "....give his daughter to a Jew...." OMG!!N/T

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Wow. That was hard to watch.

You know they're out there, but it's especially shocking to see them in action and hear their words.

[democrank]

13. I'm sick to my stomach.

NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE

[progressoid]

42. Me too. n/t

[logosoco]

16. k and r

will watch later. My old computer can't play videos and I will watch it later when my grandsons are not here.

[Liberty Belle]

20. Chilling: "We'll fucking kill these people if we have to," the organizer of the alt right says.

[Butterflylady]

21. Kick

[SleeplessinSoCal]

23. kicking in lieu of watching.

[gordianot]

24. All that killing talk goes to Nazi heads just ask George Lincoln Rockwell and Earnest Rohm.

They often end up killing each other which is a positive outcome.

[hlthe2b]

25. MUST SEE! (but if like me, I can only watch 5 or so minutes at a time)--INTENSE!!!

[world wide wally]

26. We let these assholes swing the election of Trump because.....

Tell me why again?
We outnumber them dramatically and we cannot let this ever happen again!

[CrispyQ]

55. Good question.

One side is using rule of law & the other side is destroying our institutions & the fabric of our society as fast as they can. I hope Mueller is working at light speed because the Con has already done damage that will take generations to undo.

[Old Artillery Man]

107. This is what the Electoral College

was supposed to prevent. A rabble-rouser, such as The Orange Anus and unregistered sex offender from ever assuming the office of president.

[TNNurse]

27. I am not sure I can watch all the way through.

[alittlelark]

28. .......

[underpants]

31. Kudos to HBO vice

Marking to watch later.

[kimbutgar]

33. This was so chilling to watch

Vice news is one of the best news shows on tv. I personally have learned things I never knew watching this show nightly.

I kind of feared for the women reporter though.

[Kentonio]

137. She was white and blonde, so she was likely to be safe.

You could tell how much she wanted to rip into them though, that must have been a seriously tough job keeping a lid on her temper. Don't think I'd have been able to.

[shadowmayor]

156. Hear Hear!

Kudos to Vice News - they've been out front on so many issues. They go where our mainstream media refuses to go.

[pangaia]

35. I arbitrarily jumped to about 22 Min interview.. EEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

you can just feel the lighted fuse in that guy.

he is one disturbed being.. Nothing will change him.

[CanonRay]

36. Chilling. K&R

[The River]

37. Damn

My old office used to be right there on 4th st. Hard to watch that.

[hamsterjill]

39. Thanks for posting this.

It is very enlightening, and more people should see it.

It's frightening and it's sad. My thoughts and prayers for the ones injured, both physically and mentally. I cannot imagine having to witness hate in this magnitude without that visual affecting a person for the rest of his/her life.

And... her name was Heather Heyer and she died protesting bigotry.

[rtracey]

40. hmmmm

If you think about it, there were more people killed and hurt (the combination of both) by white supremacy violence this weekend then there was in the Benghazi attack......

YUP I went there....

[nolabear]

41. That was one of the most painful things I've ever seen.

God, her face at the end.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

43. Kick...

This is really hard to watch but we must learn our opponent to find the weakness they possess.
Only then can we fight to win.

[progressoid]

44. Notice how they don't show 45's face during his comments.

Just a black screen.

[elehhhhna]

113. Bookmark to watch later

[lunatica]

46. Thanks for posting this

Wow. Just unbelievable! WOW!

[workinclasszero]

47. Why isn't this on the national news?

CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc?

The cover up and normalization of Trump's fascist movement continues!

[lunatica]

56. Vice is the news

It's on HBO and is officially a news provider. They give news in documentary style segments. Usually one or two subjects at a time.

[workinclasszero]

60. I bet most Americans have never heard of them

I'm a news junkie and I've only seen stuff from them occasionally.

[lunatica]

68. Do you get HBO?

https://news.vice.com/en_us

VICE News Tonight airs Mon-Thurs 7:30PM on HBO. VICE on HBO airs Fridays 7:30PM and 11PM.

[workinclasszero]

71. No.

Never have and never will until I win the lottery anyway.

There's a whole wide world out there that doesn't have thirty or forty bucks a months or w/e to give to HBO.

That's why this video will not be seen by millions of people who cut the cord years ago to save money.

Thanks for the info anyway.

[lunatica]

73. You can get it online and on YouTube

http://www.hbo.com/vice

https://www.youtube.com/user/vicenews

On YouTube, If you scroll down a bit you'll see this story posted there.

[workinclasszero]

80. Yes YouTube is accessible to many more folks than HBO

I hope many will see it there.

It still doesn't let the MSM off the hook though.

They pumped up the beast in the white house in the first place.

They have a responsibility to report the effects of Trump to America but are shirking their damn job again!

[JonLP24]

120. VICE probably does the best investigative reporting out there

I have HBO and I watch the weekly VICE and daily VICE. I don't think they are responsible for pumping him up since that isn't there style. Jason Leopold works there -- he used to work for Truthout.

[KelleyKramer]

185. They played clips of it on NBC nightly news

That goes out nationally on broadcast tv, free to everyone

I was surprised, and they played more than one clip of it too

[workinclasszero]

186. That's great

They should show the whole thing and let America get a close look at those "good" nazi and KKK killers that Orange Hitler was spewing about on his Hate America speech last night.

[BannonsLiver]

89. A lot of Vice stuff is on YouTube including this piece.

No cord needed.

[hwmnbn]

49. K&R

[Saviolo]

52. They somehow believe they're taking part in civil debate

It's mind-boggling.

Listen: If you want to engage in a political debate, that's great. "We need to raise taxes" vs. "We need to lower taxes" is a political debate. There are points to make on both sides of that debate. Whether or not you believe that cutting taxes will help is a economic political position, and I'll happily debate with someone who wants to have that talk.

"We need to raise taxes" vs. "Some groups of people need to die because they're sub-human" is NOT a political debate. There is no discussion to be had there. Even "We are all humans and need equal rights" vs. "Some groups of people need to die because they're sub-human" is not a debate. There is nothing to discuss here. The nazi ideology that Jews, POC, LGBTQ+, and disabled people are worthless or subhuman has no place in any civilized discourse.

"But they're not REAL nazis! They're only waving the flag because people CALLED them nazis! It's ironic!" Sorry, but absolute bullshit. Bullshit of a stripe that has rarely been seen, ever. Mind-bogglingly disingenuous bullshit. If they had a shred of human decency, they would recoil in horror at the very idea of waving a nazi flag or screaming a nazi chant. They own it, they wallow in it.

[Worktodo]

181. Yes exactly this

They have 50 different made up "ideologies" that they'll say are different but are really the same. They will claim to not be racist or sexist and then immediately say something that's completely racist and sexist. "Nonviolent" yet armed to the teeth. Up is down, left is right, and so on.

[eShirl]

53. as one describes, they're a part of an international movement

Golden Dawn, etc

[dalton99a]

57. Yep - hate groups with clandestine funding from Putin

to sow chaos and destabilize the West

[workinclasszero]

90. Bingo

Ryan, Turtle and Rohrabacher are on the payroll with Trump too.

[secondwind]

59. "I'm trying to make myself MORE CAPABLE of violence." wow

[LudwigPastorius]

61. "I'd say it's (Charlottesville) going to be really tough to top, but we're up for the challenge."

That grinning, Nazi ghoul confirms it. They have declared war on us.

Fuck them, and fuck their cowardly apologist in the White House.

We were all taught in school how Americans, and our allies, deal with Nazis. Enough said.

[dembotoz]

62. wow k and r

[Flo Mingo]

65. kick

Murika

[H2O Man]

67. Recommended.

A huge thank you for this!

[HAB911]

70. Everyone should watch Vice News Tonight if you get HBO

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9343555

[cbreezen]

74. K & R

As Randi Rhodes would say: When they tell you who they are, believe them!

[Kentonio]

136. Think it was Maya Angelou, but very true regardless!

[cbreezen]

160. Thank you for the correction

I didn't know that it was originally quoted by Maya Angelou. Now, I can attribute it properly.

[Kentonio]

161. My absolute pleasure. I love Maya Angelou.

[hamsterjill]

75. Literally, I think I need to go and throw up.

The total and clueless disregard for human life is disgusting.

[uponit7771]

76. So basically Catwell is saying the murder was justified

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

149. I'm not going to post the sick, misogynistic BS that has been liked & RTed about a million

times on Twitter about how she deserved it. It can be found on the Twitter stream of this one, which is from whence Trump retweeted the train running over CNN meme.

SL
@SLandinSoCal
PtrlmEngr/Econ&Finance, NOT a bot, Follwd By @seanhannity & @kimdotcom, #2A, #1A, #VoterID, Independent Thinker, Truth Seeker, Christian, Midwest Raised, #Aries

https://twitter.com/SLandinSoCal

I read some of her stream last night and regretted it. However, I know some DUers are brave enough to visit the freeper site and might want to better know the enemy by checking out what's popular with the RWs now. It's horrific, really.

[appleannie1943]

77. I have to give that female reporter all the respect in the world. She looked sick a couple times

but she swallowed and stuck it out. The whole things sent chills up my spine. The hate in those men is eating their souls. They have no feeling for anyone or anything except their hate.

[Blue_Tires]

78. Just more working class folks with "economic anxieties"

All Bernie has to do is give them single-payer and they'll go back to normal...

Link to tweet

[uponit7771]

81. Right !! These are something like the people who we're supposed to be reaching out to?

[workinclasszero]

111. Yes these are the poor put upon white males of Trump's base we must understand

[LiberalLovinLug]

106. Always someone on every thread that has to shove in a wedge post to divide Democrats again

1. No argument against her statement. So....just bad timing? (LIke Fox News saying its bad timing to discuss gun control right after a mass shooting?)

2. Nowhere did she say anything remotely like "All Bernie has to do is give them single-payer and they'll go back to normal." (Whatever your interpretation of someone else's interpretation of what "normal" means.)

3. Cherrypicking one tweet from one person to create a "them" meme to differentiate the "us". (Who I presume you view are the correct ones that are endlessly cynical and pessimistic about the possibilities of a fairer society, actually helping to diminish and marginalize extremist groups like this)

well done.

[Blue_Tires]

115. Please familiarize yourself with Konst's "body of work"

and see for yourself that 1. I'm not cherry-picking selective tweets, and 2. Konst and her "BURN IT ALL DOWN" cronies still trying to re-fight the primary and seeing "establishment" conspiracies everywhere not fucking Democrats...

You do that, and THEN get back to me...

I know you like to mess around with me sometimes for the sake of messing around with me, but trying to defend Konst in the name of "unity" is not only a pathetic non-starter, it's borderline suicidal... I know you aren't ignorant, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are fully read up on who Konst really is and the what the "new" TYT is really all about...

[LiberalLovinLug]

148. It was you that mentioned Bernie's name in a negative light.

You should know that is a trigger in here. As well as the cynical sarcastic straw man tactic of putting words in her mouth, interpreting what she said for her. Interpreting it simplistically to wanting single payer healthcare. And that that would be the answer to everything. And worse, you didn't just say she thought that, but insinuated that Bernie and all Bernie supporters are as simplistic naive and unrealistic.

That is what is divisive. At one time DU was overwhelmingly for Bernie. Many have been chased out, but you should be aware that there still are many on here that originally were for Bernie and his dreams of starting the conversation on single payer. You knew very well you were poking the nest. And its not helpful. Especially when the OP is about something else.

Also, I find it wrong-headed to spend time demonizing those that are impatient. Those that want it all now. Single Payer, higher min. wage. Money out of politics, fairer justice system and police training. Those that want the same things as most of us, just faster than can probably be achieved. Bernie works within the Washington establishment...he is more of pragmatist. Some, looking back at how the tables have turned so far to the right during the last 30 - 40 years, with Democrats not doing enough to stop it in their opinion, are impatient and pissed off and want to see change NOW. While I take issue with that kind of drastic outlook, I also don't blame them for getting frustrated. It is up to the Democratic party to win them back with more progressive traditional Democratic proposals. Instead of chasing the elusive DINO voter. More importantly, we should be fighting Trump, the GOP, and the deplorables that support them and actually voted for him, than this sad continual deflection pushing this fake false equivalency narrative.

ps. I did not see who wrote your post before I read it. I wasn't "messing around" with you. I do not respond to people, but to what I read. I may agree with a person on one thread, and find myself disagreeing with them on another.

[Blue_Tires]

193. For starters, you clearly did not do any backreading into Konst

which disappoints me...

Secondly, I voted for Sanders in the Virginia primary so slow your fucking roll, if you please... You do not know me.

[Blue_true]

173. I had a DU person demand that I show the links where Bernie

talked about the anxious working class Whites and the Democratic Party being too into identity politics. There are too fucking many cases to link. I told the person that if he wants them find them, that they were fucking public record. We are in a war for freedom, we can't appease those assholes, they view that as weak.

[cp]

79. Yes, a must see

Kudos to the reporter and crew. I don't know how she kept her composure. A no-flinching look at terrorists in our own country. Ugh. (only non-expletive I could find) Very painful.

[Glorfindel]

82. K&R n/t

[The Wizard]

83. When are they coming to Newark. NJ? (NT)

[Honeycombe8]

84. My God. They remind me of a pack of pit bulls trained to fight. Esp when the hitting starts.

I've seen dogs fight. When it starts, it increases quickly into a frenzy...that's what this reminds me of. A pack of dogs.

They're so full of misinformation. "Blood and soil" about whites being in the soil of the country, about whites being the real America. Have they forgotten that Native Americans/Indians were here well before whites were?

Our "white society"? We've been majority white since the beg. of the official U.S.A., but we have almost from the start also had other races. Thru the years, other races helped settle and grow our country. Equally as important as the German immigrants and Irish immigrants were the African Americans, the Asians.

They are so full of misinformation and a warped view of America. They want to get rid of "the others." We've seen that before. In Germany.

[NRaleighLiberal]

85. crank up the facial recognition tools - lots of outing could be done with this vid

[dalton99a]

93. Yep. They are a deadly public menace.

[AHardRainsAGonnaFall]

86. Kick

Really like Vice news.
My 2nd post hope I kick n rec properly.

[oxbow]

154. welcome to DU!

You automatically 'kick' a post to the top of the forum by replying to it.

The 'recommend' button is at the bottom of the original post, next to the facebook and twitter buttons.

some people just like to type 'K&R', in order to give posts an extra kick and let others know they support it!

It's a pretty good community, hope you stay and help change the world in your own way!

[AHardRainsAGonnaFall]

195. Thank you

Appreciate the K&R explanation.
I don't post much but do like the community. Reassuring I not alone.

[wishstar]

87. They're not satisfied to stay in their own right wing backward enclaves

but are determined to spread their vile presence by invading progressive cities and campuses

[LostinRed]

88. name and shame

I doubt anyone on this site knows these people but if you do please name and shame these racist assholes.

[GetRidOfThem]

95. When I grew up in Germany...

...There was a driving school down my street in my city. I was seven years old when we left, but I knew that the owner of the driving school had been banned from his profession as a driving teacher for some time, because he was an active party member during the Third Reich. So he had a stigma that lasted well into the 1970s, and I, probably five or six years old, knew about it. This is the effective result of a thorough de-nazification program.

I totally agree, identify, name, and shame. I am so glad that one guy who was identified lost his job flipping burgers. It should happen to all of them.

[dalton99a]

96. Save a life - Identify a terrorist.

[Martin Eden]

92. Bookmarked for later

[LiberalLovinLug]

94. Kick and Recommend strongly!

This is the kind of more in depth news story that the MSM news should be putting out.

[barbtries]

97. aargh

i've had it on for like 2 minutes and omigawd

[Stryst]

192. Right?

I watched it last night, and had to keep pausing so I could go outside and hate-smoke.

[thbobby]

100. Tears for America

I have often cried in my life. But wow! Is this what America has become or is or always has been?

We should love and empathisize with our fellow humans.

But KKK, nazis, or alt-right or whatever these haters call themselves?

I am at a loss for words. Tears are coming easily.

[cate94]

101. K & R

Tears for my country. Tears for Heather.

[PA Democrat]

102. I feel physically ILL after watching that.

[barbtries]

104. kicked

well if there was any doubt about whether these people are deplorable that's been covered. kudos to the reporter for maintaining a straight face. she must have been terrified at times.

[Angry Dragon]

108. 'meeting market demand' strange fellow

[xor]

114. That sick piece of shit said the car murder was justified...

Which I guess is expected from someone like that. I've been seeing people on more traditional right-wing forums justifying it too. These people are too far gone.

[Duppers]

118. Yes! That's what enraged me the most.

What the fuck is happening to our country when monsters like this can justify the murder of Heather Heyer, a beautiful, loving, innocent woman?

And they probably justify the beating of Deandre Harris simply because he was black and he was there.

I speak up when I hear such talk.

[Duppers]

116. Excellent. A must watch.

Last edited Tue Aug 15, 2017, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Just one tiny quibble: the woman complaining that what happened "is Charlottesville."

No, Charlottesville, comparatively, is bastion of progressive values. And the vast majority of these horrible people are not even from Virginia but other states. The people standing up to these monsters were Virginians. Heather Heyer was local.

I do emphatically agree with the woman that the removal of Robert E Lee statue is long overdue.

I hope there's at least a plaque honoring Heather Heyer. Listening to her mother eloquently honoring her daughter and her values brought tears to my eyes.

[oxbow]

158. I think she meant that slavery is a part of america writ large

Slaves likely helped build and died working on the grounds of Monticello, the home of a founding father that still looks down on the entire city.

The country seems to be more forgiving of slavery during the days of the founding fathers. By the civil war era, the country's views had changed; abolitionists were more abundant and many people viewed slavery as a crime against humanity. the civil war generals and dixie flag are explicitly in favor of slavery. But earlier generations were implicitly in favor of it (mostly because almost all free men in america thought this way at the time).

[The Wielding Truth]

162. Maybe, she is saying that this is Charlottesville if you are black.

[Freethinker65]

119. Thanks. I do not have cable and had never heard of Vice

When I saw HBO and the beginning footage I at first though it was a scripted show that spliced in real time video. It took me a few minutes to understand the powerful imagery, interviews, and documentation were all unscripted and happened live in front of the reporter and videographer's eyes. I am currently angry and frustrated and brought to tears.

[Kentonio]

138. Vice do some great investigative journalism

Sometimes on some really out there topics, its fascinating. Well worth checking out some of their articles too.

[58Sunliner]

121. Thanks for posting this.

I'd like to say it shocked me, but after hours looking at twitter, FB, and hate sites, this is mild compared to some of the rhetoric I've seen.

[LuckyCharms]

123. The journalist is on MSNBC now 336 pm eastern. n/t

[superpatriotman]

125. The reich is meeting market demand for violence

Apparently

Kick this

[Quixote1818]

126. Watching him at the end talk about more people dying means more people are going to die

I think we can pretty much count on more and more terrorist attacks from the Alt Right. Another Oklahoma City is not out of the question. This is just beginning but the country for the most part wants nothing to do with these scumbags. Innocent people will die but regular folks are going to fight back. People are too aware of what occurred in Germany when people didn't speak up and fight back. Also, the US is not as homogeneous as Germany, huge numbers of white people have family who are black, Hispanic, Jewish, Asian etc. Not to mention, thankfully most whites are not prejudice ass holes.

[rzemanfl]

127. K&R. n/t

[jpak]

131. Kick Kick Kick - fucking scum

yup

[Maraya1969]

132. I hope they can identify more people from this and they lose their fucking jobs!

[haveahart]

139. If you have a FB account, copy this link and post it, even for friends on the right to see.

I have.

[bagimin]

142. k&r

[krakfiend]

143. wait...is that a chinese character tattoo?

why the hell does that big bad nazi have a chinese character tattoo on his arm. quick check his ass cheeck, maybe he also have a rainbow unicorn

[lunasun]

144. I don't think there is a video of protestors attacking the killer's car. They always talk lies

He was trying to get away and hit the pedal.Crazy lies always to get out of looking bad . Is there a video of that? Highly unlikely since other cars were ahead of it and not trying to get away from a crowd attack . Those cars got damaged
Yes he drove in to them. This is how they get that Fox Trump crowd with out right lies. Prove me wrong show me the video. I'm not saying that would justify the multiple attempted deaths

Oh and what did he say about how Trayvon Martin was acting and that's why he is dead?
These horrible lies and so many people wanting to believe them
Why ? racial prejudice

[OldHippieChick]

145. K & R

[Scurrilous]

146. K&R

[Solly Mack]

151. Kick

[Politicub]

152. The press at its finest

It's no wonder why Trump despises journalism so much.

[jimlup]

153. Fuck . that is stunning

and horrible. Do not watch it if you are sensitive. I am upset and revolted by it. I feel for the reporter - that was a hard assignment.

[Roland99]

155. Beyond mentally insane

[speaktruthtopower]

157. Very frightening

[burrowowl]

159. K&R!!!!!!

[Hamlette]

163. powerful stuff, kick nt

[XRubicon]

164. Just watched. Must see.

[d_r]

165. shit

[aikoaiko]

167. Colbert found Cantwell 3 years ealier -- apparently not yet a white supremacist.

[Heartstrings]

168. This makes my heart incredibly sad....nt

[TheOther95Percent]

169. Who Is Financing These Assholes

Guns by the dozens, traveling and staying in hotels. Where are these losers getting the cash?

[Foamfollower]

170. Mostly Russia.

Seriously.

[logosoco]

171. Finally got a chance to watch...

that was hard to watch and very powerful (in a harsh way). I did not want to watch it around my grandsons and now I see why. It's hard enough to know these kind of people are in the world still and I can't explain to my young grandsons why this is.

One thing I noted that seems so glaring is that there are NOT a lot of women on "that" side. But there were many, many women counter protesting.

It doesn't seem like there were that many overall for as much as they were touting how "organized" they were.The main one who was going to speak into the microphones sure got chased of very easily. Maybe they are just like the last few dregs of dirt that you chase around with the broom to finally get it in the dustpan!

But we have a major one at the top who can affect policy and it's going to take a lot to clean up that mess. (hello, Congress, can you do something about this executive branch before it gets even worse?).

[ismnotwasm]

172. K&R

I started watching while I was still at work, but I couldn't finish--I just watched the whole thing. God help us.

[SergeStorms]

176. What a bunch of self-deluded losers.

They actually think they're strong enough to "take back" America. Take it back from who, or what? These losers are the scum of America, and it's time they were placed - nicely - back under each individual rock from where they came, never to be heard from again. They have this grand idea that because they can get a few hundred loser fuck-wits together at one time, that they can take control of this country.

Hey, losers.......when you can get a few million of you together, let the rest of us know. There were more people from the left using the porta-johns, protesting Trump's stolen election, than there were COMBINED of you toads, goose-stepping around in your stupid little Nazi costumes.

What a bunch of deluded rubes. Totally deplorable, just like Hillary said.

[Paka]

177. K&R

Thanks for the post. Powerful presentation.

[apkhgp]

178. Completely disturbing

This jerk at the end advocates killing people. People die everyday. How many Nazis die everyday? Someday I can watch the news and find out.

[Raastan]

179. K + R

[Matt Finnish]

180. An inquiring mind wants to know.

I'd like to know how many of these clowns have seen any military service.

[DesertRat]

182. K&R

[betsuni]

183. K&R

[Lazy Daisy]

188. K&R

as abhorrent as this is, it needs to be seen.

[Liberal In Texas]

190. The more I see of Vice the more impressed I am. Actual journalism.

Almost makes me wish I had cable and HBO.

[enough]

191. Must be seen. NT