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General John Kelly has made his choice. (Original Post) Foamfollower Aug 2017 OP
Kelly is in an extremely difficult place. I would rather have Kelly democratisphere Aug 2017 #1
He's doing a bang-up job so far! 6000eliot Aug 2017 #9
I think HE feels he and the other generals have to prevent Trump from starting tblue37 Aug 2017 #16
No one in this administration is innocent. There are degrees democratisphere Aug 2017 #24
He may force Bannon out, then he will earn his pay marylandblue Aug 2017 #2
Gorka must go, too Foamfollower Aug 2017 #4
We might never know, but VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #3
I am wondering the same thing--Kelly could be preventing even worse Mrs. Overall Aug 2017 #23
I see what you are thinking but their are people who hope he doesn't because someone needs to Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #5
See my post #16 above. nt tblue37 Aug 2017 #17
You either support America or you support the Nazis. Initech Aug 2017 #6
Bingo. dalton99a Aug 2017 #19
+1, the same for the rest of them ... if they want to stand next to a white supremacist they have no uponit7771 Aug 2017 #7
General Kelly may be the one preventing all hell from breaking loose. madaboutharry Aug 2017 #8
Not until Trump shows up with a black eye will I believe Kelly is trying to control Trump. Hoyt Aug 2017 #10
He will be our version of Franz Halder n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2017 #11
Not so simple. If kelly goes then mcmaster will probably go JI7 Aug 2017 #12
Pre-emptive strike orders are illegal Foamfollower Aug 2017 #13
Therr is already enough reason for 25th or impeachment JI7 Aug 2017 #14
Ted Lieu says he can grantcart Aug 2017 #18
I'm calling Goresuch the Nazi's Supreme Court Justice Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #15
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #20
In Basic Training I was taught to salute the rank, not the man wearing it. bluedigger Aug 2017 #21
But then he can get a foam finger Bettie Aug 2017 #22

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Kelly is in an extremely difficult place. I would rather have Kelly
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:35 PM
Aug 2017

than not managing the out of control insanity of this WH.

tblue37

(65,328 posts)
16. I think HE feels he and the other generals have to prevent Trump from starting
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:56 AM
Aug 2017

a war--or rather from starting a war they don't agree with.

But as Homeland Security chief, he was all in with Trump's racist deportation program and his Muslim band, so I don't see him as particularly innocent.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
24. No one in this administration is innocent. There are degrees
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:23 PM
Aug 2017

of loyalty to this most heinous creature and his henchpeople.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
4. Gorka must go, too
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:37 PM
Aug 2017

The entire administration must have the Nazis purged or he is forever stained with Nazism.

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
3. We might never know, but
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:37 PM
Aug 2017

Kelly and McMaster may be the only ones in that WH keeping Trump from nuking North Korea. If he doesn't quit, I'm going to hope that's the reason why.

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
5. I see what you are thinking but their are people who hope he doesn't because someone needs to
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:40 PM
Aug 2017

Try and keep some control. I use to think Kelly Mc Masters and Mattis thought along the lines until I heard one of the pundits (I forget who.) Explain that in the VERY early days of the Admin it was agreed that one of them would stay in the country close to trump at all times.

I am torn after hearing that pundit. Those 3 must have saw something that scared them enough to keep to that deal.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. +1, the same for the rest of them ... if they want to stand next to a white supremacist they have no
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:46 PM
Aug 2017

... one to blame but themselves

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
8. General Kelly may be the one preventing all hell from breaking loose.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017

Gen. Kelly might be our only hope of Trump not going full Mussolini, though he looked rather defeated this afternoon.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. Not so simple. If kelly goes then mcmaster will probably go
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:12 PM
Aug 2017

And bannon and gorka may encourage use of nukes.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
13. Pre-emptive strike orders are illegal
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

and every general knows it.

Trump CANNOT order a nuke strike on NK.

Nobody in the command structure would carry out such an order and it would likely trigger a 25th amendment meeting.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
14. Therr is already enough reason for 25th or impeachment
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:18 PM
Aug 2017

The republican party had shown themselves to be cowards

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
18. Ted Lieu says he can
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:01 AM
Aug 2017

Lieu is a colonel in the Air Force reserves

politifact has an article (on phone cannot link)

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
21. In Basic Training I was taught to salute the rank, not the man wearing it.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:17 AM
Aug 2017

I suspect Kelly is doing his duty, as he sees fit, by serving the office of the Presidency, rather than the man himself. Or maybe we're both just rationalizing. Hard to say...

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
22. But then he can get a foam finger
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:19 AM
Aug 2017

with a giant swastika on it and scream "I'm NUMBER ONE!".

I doubt he'll resign. None of the people in that creature's orbit have souls or morals or lines they won't cross.

Oh or love for our country and it's values.

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