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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClinton treated Secret Service like friends, Bush with respect, Obama like family, Trump like...
...servants.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/secret-service-at-the-end-of-their-rope-after-being-treated-like-servants-by-trump-report/
President Donald Trumps lavish travel habits are putting a major financial strain on the Secret Service and Center for Public Integrity reporter Christina Wilkie says that the president himself is a major source of stress as well.
On Twitter Monday morning, Wilkie wrote that multiple sources have told her that Secret Service agents are at the end of their rope, sick of being treated like servants by Trump.
One of Wilkies sources compared Trumps treatment of Secret Service agents with the treatment given them by past presidents and the comparison did not reflect well on the current president.
Clinton treated USSS agents like friends, the source told her. Bush treated them with great respect. Obama, like family. Trump treats them like servants.
Specifically, Wilkies sources tell her that Trump expects agents to regularly fetch things for him and be available to serve him at all times, regardless of when their shifts start or finish.
blue neen
(12,405 posts)At all times.
MFM008
(19,989 posts)He never takes a break...
Roland99
(53,345 posts)Dulcinea
(7,326 posts)The USSS is just a bunch of Royal Lackeys.
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Royal_Lackey
dalton99a
(83,883 posts)malaise
(277,303 posts)scumbag
Freedomofspeech
(4,356 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(50,642 posts)malaise
(277,303 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(32,420 posts)Donald Trump is the worst human being who ever lived who did not kill people personally.
Did Hitler personally kill anybody?
Guess what the real bad part of this is, 30% of America knows what a vile piece of human garbage he is and they fucking LOVE him
My heart cant take that, I am about to explode.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)The people whose job it is, to protect him and his family.
SCantiGOP
(14,154 posts)At its core, their job is to jump in front of a bullet for the President if necessary. I wouldn't want any resentment from those folks if I could avoid it.
ChazInAz
(2,762 posts)There are lessons to be learned from Caligula's and Domitian's treatment of the Praetorians and trusted advisors.
PatSeg
(49,589 posts)but evidently he is as dense as he is self absorbed. He's been treating people like shit for his entire life. What a jerk.
Vinca
(50,861 posts)Wounded Bear
(60,422 posts)I can't imagine anybody is surprised.
spanone
(137,448 posts)niyad
(119,152 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)of Obama's travels?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)I remember someone bitching in the local (repub) newspaper about the cost of the Obama's anniversary dinner in NY. WHY did they have to go to NY? Now we have this lard ass shitgibbon flying to his golf clubs just about every weekend, with extended family (Maleria's parents, too) and draining the treasury. His adult "kids" being protected while doing business, or hunting. The tRumps all think they are special, and they are ESPECIALLY OBNOXIOUS.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)mwooldri
(10,373 posts)murielm99
(31,378 posts)given the personalities of each of the men.
Of course I did not like Bush at all, but he had some idea of professionalism. I think it may be a family thing, too. He is not so much nouveau riche as 45 and his trashy family. Trump thinks everyone is a servant. I may have worked in a service profession, but I am not a servant or a slave.
LiberalBrooke
(562 posts)I never cared for the Bush family but they at least had manners
world wide wally
(21,805 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,459 posts)By claiming to be on one of the SS details that guarded the Clintons? I bet his colleagues currently guarding the Trumps are overwhelmed with gratitude.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,625 posts)maybe they'll think twice.
irisblue
(33,980 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I hate Trump, but the SS should get paid, they did not ask for this.
Maraya1969
(22,958 posts)So many other government expenses.
And I think we need to have people ask him to pay for his own security. He's the one who flaunted that hee wasn't going to take a salary.
Just ask the little weasel and get it on record what he says
arthritisR_US
(7,353 posts)blame them if their reaction time faltered.
0rganism
(24,523 posts)be careful about pissing off your Praetorian guard, mr. fakepresident
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lester94111
(81 posts)if the secret service will jump in front of bullets to protect this servant owner
TygrBright
(20,979 posts)nolabear
(43,055 posts)Previous administrations have run short. You can't predict two years ahead when budgeting happens. But not like this. And he said when money runs low keeping morale up is everything. You have to be treated with respect and feel as if you're doing important, appreciated work.
He also said so far this bunch has spent $60,000 on golf carts.
jmowreader
(51,316 posts)The Secret Service has "paid Donald Trump $60,000 to rent his golf carts." And to rent a floor in his building. And to rent rooms at his golf courses. And paid to eat meals in his restaurants.
The most disgusting part of the whole "Trump is draining the Secret Service accounts" imbroglio is, a huge percentage of the money it is costing the Secret Service to guard this asshole is being paid to that asshole.
nolabear
(43,055 posts)Yes, rented, not bought.
jmowreader
(51,316 posts)nolabear
(43,055 posts)Beartracks
(13,459 posts)From golf carts, to the rooms, food, and services so many government personnel (and foreign dignitaries) have to get at -- you guessed it -- Trump properties! Your tax dollars, folks, at work lining the pockets of this con man. That YOU voted for,
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IronLionZion
(46,844 posts)some of them might decide to seek employment elsewhere.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Asshole of all assholes....
HuskyOffset
(905 posts)The Secret Service agents on protective details should be treated, by their protectees especially, with great deference and respect. In the case of the president, I think it's no exaggeration to say these agents have the most important job in the country. Their job is no less than to protect the continuity and stability of our government. I can think of few things more traumatic and destabilizing for our country as a whole than the assassination of the president. To treat these people, who have to be constantly balanced on the knife's edge of alertness during their duty hours, who will take instant action to protect their charge, up to and including their own death, as servants that you can order around grates on me hugely. If any USSS agents are reading this, know that you have the gratitude and respect of most US citizens for the very important and necessary job you do. You accrue great honor by doing that job, even in the face of horribly disrespectful treatment by our current POTUS.
Ilsa
(62,173 posts)Leftover chicken wing for a snack, trump gets attacked, and then Agent Mike gets fired for being out of position.
you got it.
CrispyQ
(37,975 posts)I'm reminded of the movie Dave where the Kevin Kline character as Dave, makes a late night sandwich & to the surprise of his SS detail, Duane, played by Vingh Rhames, Dave cuts it in half & gives half of it to Duane. That would be Obama.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,922 posts)He can't be flushed down the sewer of history fast enough.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Guess that wasn't the case....
phylny
(8,542 posts)He said he was nice, easy-going, and drove them crazy because he always wanted to "pop in" a bookstore, burger joint, etc. "Mr. President, I'm sorry, we can't stop at the store."
TeamPooka
(25,162 posts)In SNL history
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)while saying, "I know someone who worked in Secret Service, and they said...." when I know that they were repeating a rumor they heard from someone else.
phylny
(8,542 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Told me he never encountered Clinton enough to really form an opinion, George and Laura Bush were wonderful but sometimes impatient or not inclined to listening and Obama was also wonderful but he never met Michelle.
He said he couldn't imagine dealing with someone like Trump or a situation like the Katy Tur fiasco.
BigmanPigman
(52,144 posts)aware that he has made a lot of enemies and really needs the SS more than most of the other presidents did. If I were him I'd wear a bullet proof vest 24/7.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)God, I hate him so much!
Not the people you really want to piss off, are they?
Butterflylady
(3,931 posts)Not. Again, most stupid person ever.
eppur_se_muova
(37,288 posts)I thought they were gonna say "like service animals" ... but on second thought, farm animals would be more likely.
JDC
(10,446 posts)keithbvadu2
(39,763 posts)Have them fetch for you, Donald.
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+keep+private+security+detail&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The SS, the elite of the elite, is less than his private guard. He may recognize that the SS serves the country, he likely don't trust them.
JI7
(90,233 posts)Gothmog
(153,721 posts)Ohiya
(2,398 posts)Asshole!
It's bad enough when people are rude to waiters and nurses. This is a whole other level of stupidity.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)tiptonic
(765 posts)Are we surprised?
steve2470
(37,461 posts)and that this habitual behavior of his WILL come back to bite him very badly.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)they really want to take a bullet for this asshole.
nevertheless, I expect their own self-respect and respect for their job would win that argument.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)JI7
(90,233 posts)Warpy
(113,054 posts)He'd better be careful or that's what will happen to our version.
wryter2000
(47,256 posts)Maybe he had enough sense not to make the Secret Service do that, but wouldn't they have to go with him?
Doesn't sound like respect to me.
oppressedproletarian
(243 posts)Apparently this was the Trump Organization law even before the election. Sorry don't know where I read this. They consider themselves royalty.
LakeArenal
(29,719 posts)"Damn, I was going to stop the bullet, but I had to get him some ice cream"
avebury
(11,060 posts)My SIL's youngest brother was with the SS back in the Bush Jr era. He said Barbara Bush treated the SS nicely. Even at that time the SS was having retention problems. Instead of having to be available for security work say every other month, SS agents were permanently on call. It became hard to have a private life because you really couldn't schedule any activities becasue you never knew when you might be called in. He eventually left.
I don't see how the SS could tolerate the treatment that Trump would dole out to them.
Texin
(2,633 posts)To 'rump, everyone else on the planet is beneath him and lives to serve him. POS.
DK504
(3,847 posts)"Specifically, Wilkies sources tell her that Trump expects agents to regularly fetch things for him and be available to serve him at all times, regardless of when their shifts start or finish."
Now that the SS is running out of money maybe agents will transfer to other agencies and back to investigation rather than protection.
This abuse of government agencies must be stopped and agents leaving maybe the only way to teach this traitor how shit is supposed to work.
Stinky The Clown
(68,381 posts)Petty fucking pissant.
spanone
(137,448 posts)applegrove
(122,629 posts)well. Is it a conservative thing? Not funny but you know what I mean.
dflprincess
(28,431 posts)and she made it clear to John and to the agent that the agent's job was to protect John and not perform tasks John could do for himself.
Of course, Jackie was not insecure and didn't need to prove anything to anybody about her position in life or on the "A List" in Manhattan society - a group Trump has long wanted to be part of but has never quite made it.
trueblue2007
(17,913 posts)AllyCat
(16,920 posts)JI7
(90,233 posts)just based on the shitty piece of shit he is
AllyCat
(16,920 posts)And each day is more disappointing than the last. And it's hard to predict how much anyone can take.
JI7
(90,233 posts)AllyCat
(16,920 posts)Peace.
truthisfreedom
(23,309 posts)Alzheimer's is a bitch.
DFW
(56,316 posts)While Clinton was in office, my father was president of a D.C. journalists' group known as The Gridiron Club. They put on a dinner/show each year for the president, VP, cabinet, foreign dignitaries, and especially, other journalists. Most politicians get mildly roasted, but as their present-day invocation implies, "Ladies are always present, reporters are never present, and the Gridiron singes, but it never burns."
When he attends (Clinton loved it, Bush was lukewarm, Obama usually attended, but I imagine Trump avoids it like the plague), the president of the US gives a humorous speech (as does everyone). The year I was there, Clinton absolutely owned the room. My father, as Gridiron president, was charged with giving the Secret Service guy in Clinton's immediate proximity (and therefore also his) a code name. My dad had no idea what kind of code name to give a Secret Service agent, but they told him that he had to pick the name, so he finally said, OK, then his code name will be "Placido Flamingo." The Secret Service guy winced, but said nothing, and Placido Flamingo he was.
During a brief pause in the proceedings, Clinton had already put his prepared speech on the podium. Senator Pat Moynihan of New York, who was also at our table in front of the podium, was already pretty plastered. Moynihan had seen Clinton put his speech on the podium, and before anyone had noticed, he stepped up and grabbed Clinton's speech and started reading through it. Clinton finally noticed, and got his speech back, but he was furious, and told "Placido Flamingo" off for letting Moynihan get near it. Poor "Placido Flamingo" took it silently, but he obviously saw no danger to Clinton from a tipsy prominent Senator from Clinton's own party, and obviously had no idea of the reason Moynihan had approached the podium.
We all had a laugh about it afterward, but I'll bet "Placido Flamingo (we never knew his real name)" hadn't heard the last of it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,485 posts)Ever. No matter what the job.
I sincerely hope that these stories of the Secret Service running our of money are somewhat overblown and that no one will miss a paycheck.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)ck4829
(35,704 posts)Much more valuable than the "I'd rather be unemployed than have a boss who is black and/or gay" constituency that Trump is dedicated to appealing to, that's for darn sure.
Gothmog
(153,721 posts)Trump is an asshole to the Secret Service http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/secret-service-at-the-end-of-their-rope-after-being-treated-like-servants-by-trump-report/
On Twitter Monday morning, Wilkie wrote that multiple sources have told her that Secret Service agents are at the end of their rope, sick of being treated like servants by Trump.
Link to tweet
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fsecret-service-at-the-end-of-their-rope-after-being-treated-like-servants-by-trump-report%2F
One of Wilkies sources compared Trumps treatment of Secret Service agents with the treatment given them by past presidents and the comparison did not reflect well on the current president.
Clinton treated USSS agents like friends, the source told her. Bush treated them with great respect. Obama, like family. Trump treats them like servants.
Link to tweet
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fsecret-service-at-the-end-of-their-rope-after-being-treated-like-servants-by-trump-report%2F
Specifically, Wilkies sources tell her that Trump expects agents to regularly fetch things for him and be available to serve him at all times, regardless of when their shifts start or finish.
Link to tweet
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fsecret-service-at-the-end-of-their-rope-after-being-treated-like-servants-by-trump-report%2F