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niyad

(113,079 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:18 PM Aug 2017

The Rise of the Valkyries In the alt-right, women are the future, and the problem




The Rise of the Valkyries In the alt-right, women are the future, and the problem



A month after Donald Trump took office, an activist named Lana Lokteff delivered a speech calling on women to join the political resistance. “Be loud,” Lokteff said in a crisp, assertive voice. “Our enemies have become so arrogant that they count on our silence.” Lokteff, who is in her late thirties, addressed an audience of a few hundred people seated in a room with beige walls, drab lighting, and dark-red curtains. The location, a building in the historic Södermalm neighborhood of Stockholm, Sweden, had been secured only the previous night, after several other venues had refused to host the event, billed as an “ideas” conference. Lokteff wore a white blouse and a crocheted black shawl over her trim figure, with a microphone headset fitted over her long blond hair. In addition to the attendees seated before her, she spoke to viewers watching a livestream. “When women get involved,” she declared, “a movement becomes a serious threat.”



Since Trump’s election in November, that same idea had inspired more than 4,000 women to contact EMILY’s List, an organization that backs female pro-choice candidates across the United States, about running for office. It had compelled women to organize a series of marches that brought millions of anti-Trump protesters into streets around the world.

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The alt-right is widely considered a movement of young white men, and Lokteff was trying to rally women to the cause. “It was women that got Trump elected,” she said. “And, I guess, to be really edgy, it was women that got Hitler elected.”1 The crowd applauded and cheered. (NOTE:1 Adolf Hitler lost a presidential race, but the Nazis earned enough votes in a parliamentary election in 1932 to become the dominant party in the Reichstag. Hitler was appointed Germany’s chancellor the following year.)

Lokteff was the conference’s only female speaker — perhaps because the alt-right has certain ideas about how women should behave. Another presenter, Matt Forney, a fleshy, goateed blogger in his twenties, once wrote a screed called “The Case Against Female Self-esteem.” In his Stockholm speech, Forney bemoaned social norms telling white men that “your natural masculine instincts, your natural desires to bed and wed women, make you an oppressive misogynist.” Paul Ramsey, who appeared at the event to decry a purported scourge of left-wing violence in America, is better known to his more than 38,000 Twitter followers as RAMZPAUL. Middle-aged with black, thick-rimmed glasses, he doesn’t embrace the alt-right label, but his views align with those of many in the movement: He thinks women shouldn’t vote, and has called gender equality “the mother of all delusions.” Other soldiers in the alt-right’s fractious army regularly insult women on digital platforms such as Twitter, 4chan, and Reddit. The man who claims to have coined the term “alt-right,” Richard Spencer, has said that women shouldn’t make foreign policy because their “vindictiveness knows no bounds.” Andrew Anglin, who runs a neo-Nazi website called the Daily Stormer, once criticized as a traitor any white woman who has mixed-race children. “It’s OUR WOMB,” he wrote. “It belongs to the males in her society.”

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https://harpers.org/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-valkyries/

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The Rise of the Valkyries In the alt-right, women are the future, and the problem (Original Post) niyad Aug 2017 OP
So they profile one Swedish woman of Russian descent? Good lord it's getting crazy. bettyellen Aug 2017 #1
you might want to read this: The Truth About Women and White Supremacy niyad Aug 2017 #2
I saw that but I still think elevating the importance of a group that lasted 6-7 years is a bit of bettyellen Aug 2017 #3
Oh god, the dumbass who runs Red Ice? Not a problem for normal people muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #4
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. So they profile one Swedish woman of Russian descent? Good lord it's getting crazy.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:53 PM
Aug 2017

Yeah women do it also- in much smaller percentages.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. I saw that but I still think elevating the importance of a group that lasted 6-7 years is a bit of
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:46 PM
Aug 2017

Whataboutism. I know here are women too- always have been wives and moms into this shit. It's not easy to quantify their influence, but when they talk about the WKKk- that lasted 6-7 years as if it's significant today they lose me. Especially since I believe the majority of these women are going along to get along. Of course some aren't, but I see it as mostly a guy thing. They've been the leadership, they've done the vast majority of violence. That matters.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
4. Oh god, the dumbass who runs Red Ice? Not a problem for normal people
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:51 PM
Aug 2017

On another forum, someone posted a video of theirs trying to convince people that mixed race children mean white genocide. After many attempts to reason with the few idiots who believed her, someone came up with this to illustrate the essential ridiculousness of her ideas - "Favoured Methods of Genocide on the Political Compass":

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