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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 08:20 PM Aug 2017

Mueller Signals He's Going After Mike Pence Too

Last edited Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/mueller-signals-hes-going-after-mike-pence-too/
By jlyttle -- August 28, 2017

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is closing in on Trump from so many angles it’s hard to keep track.It’s only a matter of time before Trump is removed from office. The only question is whether or not Mike Pence will go down with him and from the looks of it, he will.

Michael Flynn was the beginning of the end for the current administration. The New York Times is reporting that Robert Mueller is now asking for the White House to turn over documents pertaining to Flynn’s employment as a foreign agent and with the Trump campaign. Mueller is supposedly investigating whether Flynn was getting kickbacks from his time on the Trump campaign, which would be classified as fraud.

Why is this significant for Mike Pence?

Flynn has already admitted to the Trump team that he was a paid foreign agent, but he was still hired for the National Security Adviser position. Mike Pence knew Michael Flynn was a criminal, but claimed his innocence anyways.

Mueller’s investigation into these kickbacks brings up the question, did Pence know about those too? If Pence knew about these crimes then he committed obstruction of justice.

Co-founder of the Democratic Coalition, Scott Dworkin was on MSNBC’s Morning Joy recently and shared his thoughts on Mike Pence taking the fall for hiring ex-General Michael Flynn .............



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Mueller Signals He's Going After Mike Pence Too (Original Post) L. Coyote Aug 2017 OP
Good news Hieronymus Aug 2017 #1
Not a reliable source SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #41
It is an opinion piece moda253 Sep 2017 #48
It is clickbait SCantiGOP Sep 2017 #50
once again - LOCK THEM ALL UP! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #2
O Merry Christmas! R B Garr Aug 2017 #3
Amin! shenmue Aug 2017 #8
And Happy Holidays!!! Lol Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #23
They are all rotten to the core in this Administration syringis Aug 2017 #4
Its gotta be a twofer. We can't just trade the idiot Trump for Pastor Pence, procon Aug 2017 #5
President Zombie-Eyed Granny Killer??? Bleacher Creature Aug 2017 #6
Ugh, what a loser! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #30
he and Mitch took money too Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #32
Please be true Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #7
Don't forget that Manafort recommended Pence as the VP. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #9
Hmm, interesting. nt zentrum Aug 2017 #16
Hence the Tweet inside OP post! WinkyDink Aug 2017 #20
Engineered it too by saying the plane WhiteTara Aug 2017 #22
And Gov. C. Christie was out. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #24
yep. WhiteTara Aug 2017 #42
I must admit that I have a bit of a crush on Mueller elfin Aug 2017 #10
Lanky *face*? More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #12
Yep - the face and the rest. "Lanky" is the key to my heart. Go figure. Eom elfin Aug 2017 #17
John Kerry has the same kind of face. It says,"Trustworthy. Ethical. Determined." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #21
Yes, I agree. Scarsdale Sep 2017 #49
Yes, I made that same connection to Kerry.. whathehell Sep 2017 #54
I agree. I kind of have a little crush on Kerry too. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #60
Sic 'em jpak Aug 2017 #11
K & R !!! ancianita Aug 2017 #13
I think it is a stretch to say Mueller is going after Pence. Raven123 Aug 2017 #14
Mueller is going wherever the evidence leads. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #19
How sweet it is! DemoTex Aug 2017 #15
Oh please, please, please Hekate Aug 2017 #18
blue dot daily? How good is this source? mucifer Aug 2017 #25
It is a clickbait/content farm site. demmiblue Aug 2017 #29
Got excited until I saw the source :( moonscape Aug 2017 #31
My question as well HopeAgain Aug 2017 #33
Oh I get it now! tymorial Aug 2017 #26
Bribe a Republican. It's easy! vlyons Aug 2017 #27
My Husband promised me mercuryblues Aug 2017 #28
I hope your husband loves you alot Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #34
That's a big leap, from Tump's inner circle knowing about Flynn to Pence knowing. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #35
Pence was picked by Manafort. We need to know why. nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2017 #37
The GOP liked Pence and he'd appeal to the establishment Republicans. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #38
Google "Pence Manafort ties" -- turns up quite a bit of stuff. nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2017 #40
I didn't read it all. I'm tired. But I don't see anything of substance there. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #44
"I read" L. Coyote Sep 2017 #45
Mueller will get them both....two for one....that is what I believe...nt Stuart G Aug 2017 #36
These things always bring to mind that the so called defacto7 Aug 2017 #39
I'll take Orrin Snatch flamingdem Aug 2017 #43
How could Pence have done anything wrong? stollen Sep 2017 #46
That would be outstanding! calimary Sep 2017 #47
Why stop at Pence aquamarina Sep 2017 #51
Sort of rtracey Sep 2017 #52
I wish I could remember Soxfan58 Sep 2017 #53
Louise Mensch says that. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #55
Louise Mensch is a grifting loser snooper2 Sep 2017 #64
Actually, she's a "Unhinged British witch" and not surprisingly "a textbook succubus" L. Coyote Sep 2017 #65
Yeah, I think he suggested that at one point. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #58
Good TEB Sep 2017 #56
I hope and pray for this to happen blueinredohio Sep 2017 #57
It's possible that the Trump Presidency will be the best thing that happens to this country lunatica Sep 2017 #59
This was reported several months ago by.Rachel Maddow as per Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #61
The way he lawyered up with top attorneys so quickly was more than a slight tip. NT pablo_marmol Sep 2017 #62
K&r Gothmog Sep 2017 #63
 

moda253

(615 posts)
48. It is an opinion piece
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:40 PM
Sep 2017

Why does source matter. It is an opinion piece done with citing pieces from NYT.

That's pretty much like saying none of our opinions matter because we aren't credible sources.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
4. They are all rotten to the core in this Administration
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 08:30 PM
Aug 2017

They are truly turning America into a banana republic

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Its gotta be a twofer. We can't just trade the idiot Trump for Pastor Pence,
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

and then have to deal with all his fanatical religious taboos. No, both of them have to go, preferably to a 3 squares and a comfy cot at Club Fed.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. Ugh, what a loser!
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

Does he really think that anyone is going to be impressed or turned on by that?

He looks like the biggest dork in the world.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
22. Engineered it too by saying the plane
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:33 PM
Aug 2017

had a problem and Trump had to stay overnight and next day, viola! he was on board.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
10. I must admit that I have a bit of a crush on Mueller
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 08:56 PM
Aug 2017

He emanates integrity, along with that lanky visage that makes my knees wobble.

Don't tell my husband.

I have no doubt he will go after whomever threatens our republic in a straightforward and thoroughly genius way. Including Puritan Pence.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
12. Lanky *face*?
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:00 PM
Aug 2017

That's a new one for me! I like him too.

i think depending on when Trump's approached, he'd be fine with throwing Pence under the bus. He can't have been happy to see Pence all presidential and helpin' out down in Texas today.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
49. Yes, I agree.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

Mueller looks presidential, too. He would have the character to be president. None of the current candidates (Pence, Ryan and others) even come close. Kerry would have made a GREAT president. He commands respect. Name one singe member of the gop who could come close to Mueller or Kerry? The party of flim flam artists and scammers.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
60. I agree. I kind of have a little crush on Kerry too.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:41 PM
Sep 2017

Something about his face just radiates intelligence and compassion.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Mueller is going wherever the evidence leads.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

So, is it a stretch to say Pence is as clean as a whistle amidst all this lying, that his version is the true one? That would be the streeeetcccch.

demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
29. It is a clickbait/content farm site.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

I wish DUers would link to more reputable sources.

Edit: as to the tweet, he is part of the Mensch, Taylor, Grayson, Dworkin, et al. crowd.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
27. Bribe a Republican. It's easy!
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:50 PM
Aug 2017

Why should the Russians wage a hot war with the US, when bribing Republicans is so easy and much much cheaper. Most corrupt part ever. Degenerate!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. That's a big leap, from Tump's inner circle knowing about Flynn to Pence knowing.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:22 PM
Aug 2017

Pence was not part of the Trump inner circle. He was named as VP because the GOP wanted Pence. Trump didn't even know Pence.

I also don't see where there's any obstruction by Pence, even if he knew Flynn was getting kickbacks.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. The GOP liked Pence and he'd appeal to the establishment Republicans.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:37 PM
Aug 2017

That's what was being said at the time. Party unity. Because Trump wasn't really a Republican (he's not anything). Close to the religious right, a group we know Trump relies on for key support. Koch brothers liked Pence.

But I never heard Manafort was involved.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
44. I didn't read it all. I'm tired. But I don't see anything of substance there.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 11:17 PM
Aug 2017

Pence was the party favorite. Party unity. Close evangelical ties. Koch brother favorite. Manafort, Trump's campaign mgr at the time, agreed Pence was a good choice. So did Trump's family, I read.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
39. These things always bring to mind that the so called
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:38 PM
Aug 2017

brain surgeon is 13th in the line of succession. No matter how far it goes there's always something.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
47. That would be outstanding!
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:29 PM
Sep 2017

They're both liars and dirty all over because of this.
I'm referring to Pence as Mike "this is the first I've heard of it" Pence.

He was HEAD of the transition team after Chris Christe got bounced early. And that's been his regular go-to answer when questioned about ANYTHING funky that happened during the transition. His CONSISTENT default was to play dumb. Stuff that, as chair of the transition team, he HAD to know about it to some degree, at least. And he stayed in that capacity until the inauguration.

So he's either a repeated bald-faced liar or he's a shitty manager. I'd go with both.

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
51. Why stop at Pence
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:53 PM
Sep 2017

With a little more digging he ought to be able find dirt on just about every Republican who was running for Congress last year.

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
53. I wish I could remember
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 01:07 PM
Sep 2017

Who said it ( thinking Malcom Nance) That when this is done were looking at President Orrin Hatch

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
65. Actually, she's a "Unhinged British witch" and not surprisingly "a textbook succubus"
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:14 AM
Sep 2017

Others beat you to that party with far better quips as soon as she became a threat to the #TrumpRussia coverup.




GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
58. Yeah, I think he suggested that at one point.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:42 PM
Sep 2017

He's been pretty much right all along, so I am encouraged.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
59. It's possible that the Trump Presidency will be the best thing that happens to this country
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:37 PM
Sep 2017

Maybe a whole lot of GOPers will land behind bars. That's one way of destroying our government that I might really like.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
61. This was reported several months ago by.Rachel Maddow as per
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 02:14 AM
Sep 2017

Sally Yates testimony and then Pence denial on TV. It's not a lie

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