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http://www.bluedotdaily.com/mueller-signals-hes-going-after-mike-pence-too/By jlyttle -- August 28, 2017
Michael Flynn was the beginning of the end for the current administration. The New York Times is reporting that Robert Mueller is now asking for the White House to turn over documents pertaining to Flynns employment as a foreign agent and with the Trump campaign. Mueller is supposedly investigating whether Flynn was getting kickbacks from his time on the Trump campaign, which would be classified as fraud.
Why is this significant for Mike Pence?
Flynn has already admitted to the Trump team that he was a paid foreign agent, but he was still hired for the National Security Adviser position. Mike Pence knew Michael Flynn was a criminal, but claimed his innocence anyways.
Muellers investigation into these kickbacks brings up the question, did Pence know about those too? If Pence knew about these crimes then he committed obstruction of justice.
Co-founder of the Democratic Coalition, Scott Dworkin was on MSNBCs Morning Joy recently and shared his thoughts on Mike Pence taking the fall for hiring ex-General Michael Flynn .............
Link to tweet
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)moda253
(615 posts)Why does source matter. It is an opinion piece done with citing pieces from NYT.
That's pretty much like saying none of our opinions matter because we aren't credible sources.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)Not worth the time to look at in my opinion.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)and throw away the keys
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Round up!
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)They are truly turning America into a banana republic
procon
(15,805 posts)and then have to deal with all his fanatical religious taboos. No, both of them have to go, preferably to a 3 squares and a comfy cot at Club Fed.
Bleacher Creature
(11,252 posts)Will this be his official WH photo?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Does he really think that anyone is going to be impressed or turned on by that?
He looks like the biggest dork in the world.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)had a problem and Trump had to stay overnight and next day, viola! he was on board.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)I can't believe how stupid they are and that they think they are so smart.
elfin
(6,262 posts)He emanates integrity, along with that lanky visage that makes my knees wobble.
Don't tell my husband.
I have no doubt he will go after whomever threatens our republic in a straightforward and thoroughly genius way. Including Puritan Pence.
More_Cowbell
(2,190 posts)That's a new one for me! I like him too.
i think depending on when Trump's approached, he'd be fine with throwing Pence under the bus. He can't have been happy to see Pence all presidential and helpin' out down in Texas today.
elfin
(6,262 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Mueller looks presidential, too. He would have the character to be president. None of the current candidates (Pence, Ryan and others) even come close. Kerry would have made a GREAT president. He commands respect. Name one singe member of the gop who could come close to Mueller or Kerry? The party of flim flam artists and scammers.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Something about his face just radiates intelligence and compassion.
jpak
(41,756 posts)Lock him up!
ancianita
(35,933 posts)Raven123
(4,792 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)So, is it a stretch to say Pence is as clean as a whistle amidst all this lying, that his version is the true one? That would be the streeeetcccch.
DemoTex
(25,390 posts)Hekate
(90,556 posts)Make it be true
mucifer
(23,479 posts)demmiblue
(36,823 posts)I wish DUers would link to more reputable sources.
Edit: as to the tweet, he is part of the Mensch, Taylor, Grayson, Dworkin, et al. crowd.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I will hold my excitement for now...
tymorial
(3,433 posts)When he was saying mother it was really Mother Russia.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Why should the Russians wage a hot war with the US, when bribing Republicans is so easy and much much cheaper. Most corrupt part ever. Degenerate!
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)impeachment hearing for my birthday. Only 5 more months.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Pence was not part of the Trump inner circle. He was named as VP because the GOP wanted Pence. Trump didn't even know Pence.
I also don't see where there's any obstruction by Pence, even if he knew Flynn was getting kickbacks.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's what was being said at the time. Party unity. Because Trump wasn't really a Republican (he's not anything). Close to the religious right, a group we know Trump relies on for key support. Koch brothers liked Pence.
But I never heard Manafort was involved.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Pence was the party favorite. Party unity. Close evangelical ties. Koch brother favorite. Manafort, Trump's campaign mgr at the time, agreed Pence was a good choice. So did Trump's family, I read.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)brain surgeon is 13th in the line of succession. No matter how far it goes there's always something.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)over Pence!
stollen
(419 posts)He has a cross melted into his skin.
calimary
(81,110 posts)They're both liars and dirty all over because of this.
I'm referring to Pence as Mike "this is the first I've heard of it" Pence.
He was HEAD of the transition team after Chris Christe got bounced early. And that's been his regular go-to answer when questioned about ANYTHING funky that happened during the transition. His CONSISTENT default was to play dumb. Stuff that, as chair of the transition team, he HAD to know about it to some degree, at least. And he stayed in that capacity until the inauguration.
So he's either a repeated bald-faced liar or he's a shitty manager. I'd go with both.
aquamarina
(1,865 posts)With a little more digging he ought to be able find dirt on just about every Republican who was running for Congress last year.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Sort of reminds me of Nixon-Agnew... pres and vp -
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Who said it ( thinking Malcom Nance) That when this is done were looking at President Orrin Hatch
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Others beat you to that party with far better quips as soon as she became a threat to the #TrumpRussia coverup.
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GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)He's been pretty much right all along, so I am encouraged.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Maybe a whole lot of GOPers will land behind bars. That's one way of destroying our government that I might really like.
Maraya1969
(22,462 posts)Sally Yates testimony and then Pence denial on TV. It's not a lie