There can be no forgiveness and reconciliation without genuine repentance

[DemocratSinceBirth]

If Trump apologizes to Hillary for saying she is crooked and belongs in jail and turns away from his wicked ways I might say something nice about him and urge others to do so.


Until then there can be no forgiveness and reconciliation without genuine repentance



PEACE
DSB

[sprinkleeninow]

1. The way it looks, I highly doubt it.

Not to say it could not come to that.
Some are industrial strength hardened.
Some come to the end of themselves and cry out.
Some go down with their dinghy.
A root of pride and other factors are the sources for his behavior.

I am Christian, but could not bring myself to speak any charitable words aloud upon this happening. May internalize it tho in my own way.

His so-called 'lead' is fraught with sheer destruction.

Peace be unto you as well. 🕯

💗?💪🗽

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I was taught the only difference between a sinner and a saint is one man's saved and the other...

I was taught the only difference between a sinner and a saint is one man's forgiven and the other man ain't.

I know Christ instructs us to love our enemies so I guess that's one more thing I have some explaining to do.

[sprinkleeninow]

4. You're not alone.

I have such animosity well up in me since last November.
It ebbs and flows.

Aside from being not beneficial to one's spirit, it wrecks your health. As soon as it comes in, I have to get rid of it.

This evil permeating the fiber of our nation I feel is unprecedented. Well, in my lifetime anyway.

Saints and sinners. Too compartmentalized.
The Jesus Prayer. "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy upon me, a sinner."

Some 'christians' wig out over that. Once saved, always saved? Who is really saved. You may, in vainglory, 'believe' you are.

"We have been saved, are being saved, will be saved."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Trump makes it hard

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not just seven times, but seventy-seven times!…"

-Matthew 18:21

My mom was Jewish. My father was a gentile. I embrace both faiths and in my heart and mind I can reconcile the two.

Every religion I am familiar with allows for redemption. Trump makes it near impossible to believe that.

[sprinkleeninow]

9. Not only faith systems, but there is

humanist type of redemption/forgiveness where those without any 'belief' system/religion give another 'chance' if there is EVIDENCE of compunction accompanied by deed. Talk is cheap.

It ain't a cake walk staying on the straight and narrow.

We had many Jewish friends, business acquaintances, and a member of extended family back in CT.

To life!

Peace be to you and your house,

~sprink

[leftstreet]

2. I believe he'd also be expected to 'atone' for it

I'm sure we could think of something

[uriel1972]

5. I'd say this for all the Trump voters too...

All those "Reach outers" can bite me.

[ck4829]

6. +1000 I always say that Trump voters need to do some homework

Whether it is:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/he-played-me-for-a-fool-kentucky-trump-supporter-laments-he-should-have-voted-for-hillary/
Or
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/24/news/economy/donald-trump-voters-budget-cuts/

Are Trumpgrets genuine? Or will these people vote for the next candidate who is even Trumpier than Trump and who won't have the cuts coming for them? I think we don't need to focus on people who are just upset with Trump until we ask ourselves, and them, these questions of things I don't see in these stories...

Do they find the notion of a person being "illegal" now silly?

Do they see something wrong when a person says that "All Lives Matter" but then shrugs and turns away when a refugee needs help?

How many mosques have they walked into and talked with the people there? What do they do when they are confronted with the notion that Muslims are people just like them?

When someone says gay and/or transgendered people are "deviant" or "sick", do they speak up in disagreement?

When people who look like them and believe like them are in their company and they call people who look different and believe differently lazy who don't deserve government assistance but that actually they earned their government assistance for some reason or another, do they stand up and call that wrong?

Those questions reflect the distorted ideas that helped Trump get into office, there simply can not be a rejection of Trump until there is a rejection of those distorted ideas. If they reject them, then welcome aboard. If they don't, well, it would be foolish to enable them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. When all this is over we are going to need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission like in ...

When all this is over we are going to need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission like in South Africa after apartheid.