IMO, tRump Campaign Never Thought They Would Win

[stopbush]

and that led them to act recklessly and illegally. They thought he would lose, and everything would be forgotten. In the meanwhile, tRump's pockets would be lined, and his enhanced celebrity would bring him even greater riches in the future.

Now, they're up against it. tRump is entirely incompetent as a government employee, and all of his illegal dealings of the past are in the crosshairs. Worse, as tRump's only response to his crimes surfacing seems to be engaging in new crimes like obstruction of justice, the good ship CCCP tRump is now circling the drain.

[Bayard]

1. Agree

No on either side thought he had a chance in hell. Dems were complacent.

[stopbush]

2. I don't know any complacent Ds. Hillary did get 3-million more votes

than tRump, after all.

I don't understand how people can believe that tRump colluded with the Russians but then deny that said collusion helped him win. Of course it helped him win, by poisoning voters against Hillary through their cyber operations to actually flipping votes at the voting machines, a crime that is just starting to be confirmed through investigations.

No, complacent Ds were not an issue, at least not beyond any people who identify as Ds out of the 40-50% of voters who can't be bothered to vote. That kind of complacency has nothing to do with political affiliation.

[Bayard]

6. She should have had 10 million more votes

When I say complacent, I mean everyone took it for granted she was going to win. Never contemplated anything else. We were asleep at the wheel.

[stopbush]

7. Silly. Why not say she should have won by 20 or 30- million votes?

Speak for yourself when you say Ds were asleep at the wheel. Some of us gave our time and hard-earned money in the Elect Hillary effort. Sorry if you couldn't be bothered.

[Bayard]

8. I always speak for myself

You can agree or not. And yes, I'm one of those some. But a whole bunch of other people didn't bother because they thought it was in the bag.

[WinkyDink]

3. Disagree. I think Trump and Manafort KNEW FULL WELL THE RUSSIAN FIX WAS IN.

[stopbush]

4. Oh, I agree they knew. It's just a matter of whether tRumpCo was heavily

involved in the fix, or whether they weren't directly involved, but knew what the Russians were up to and didn't do anything to stop it.

The other question is whether tRumpCo reached out to the Russians to do the fix, or if the Russians told them they were doing it and to stay out of their way. It could be that the Russian interference was intended to weaken Hillary's presidency, and nothing more.

In any case, my point is that whether tRumpCo was directly involved or not, they believed Hillary was going to win despite the Russian interference.

[MFM008]

5. Me 2

He knows it. They know it and Mueller knows it.
He's begun to close the net.