Stocking up for the big flood...

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

[malaise]

1. LOL

We don't eat red meat but never buy vegan

[MLAA]

2. And it is the most sustainable for the planet, the healthiest for us, and saves furry friends!

[Not Ruth]

3. I agree with the first and the last

Healthiest is an individual matter. Soy is not healthy for many people.

[MLAA]

6. One more note

Plant based food is the healthiest for humans..not necessarily the packaged vegan food shown in the pic (though I do enjoy it more than I should 😃

Anyone with a loved one with heart disease or history of heart disease consider reading
'Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease' by Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

35. Humans evolved as omnivores,

meaning they ate meat as a component of their diet. Going totally meat free really makes no sense.

[MLAA]

48. We also evolved from cave dwellers.😬

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

50. Not really.

Some humans lived in caves. Not very many, overall. We evolved from savanna-dwelling omnivores, and once we learned to cook food, we became fully human.

[NickB79]

4. Not always

The organic farm down the road from us that raises grass-fed beef is better environmentally than any soybean fields used to make vegan hamburger patties. Sequestering carbon in the soil, rotating pastures to prevent erosion, providing habitat for grassland species, etc.

I'd rather we converted most of the northern plains back to prairie and farmed bison on the land again, instead of tilling it like we do.

[Not Ruth]

5. I love to look at bison on the Custer Park loop

But they are not the most efficient method of producing protein. Plus I hate the taste of grass fed meat, farmed or wild.

[progressoid]

10. I enjoyed the bison burger in Custer State Park.

My client even treated me to a bison tenderloin at the State Game Lodge. Very good. But I would never have tried it since I rarely want to pay 45 bucks for a meal.

[NickB79]

29. Ultimately, we need to drastically reduce our intake of meat-based protein

We produce far too much corn and soy just to feed to cattle for cheap red meat. In fact, the majority of corn and soy in the US is grown for livestock, not direct human consumption. This is depleting aquifers, eroding vital topsoil, polluting waterways, and emitting methane. At the same time, the US diet is probably too heavily focused on protein in general; we aren't all world-class bodybuilders. In fact, the average US male eats almost TWICE the protein daily compared to the USDA's recommended intake!

My ideal food production scheme for the 21st century would see far less red meat grown annually, more emphasis on less carbon-intensive proteins such as chicken, farmed fish, legumes, and mycoproteins (farmed fungi, similar to mushrooms) and a rapid conversion of marginal and dryland farms into sustainably stocked pastures and ranches. This would greatly reduce the number of acres of land needed to supply livestock feed, which could then be converted back to land supporting wildlife and sequestering carbon. At the same time, it would encourage farmers to re-diversify like farms did a century ago, with numerous smaller fields with a variety of crops replacing the 1,000-acre monocrops of corn and soy we see today.

At the same time, we also need to get away from typical plow-and-plant farming in general, and convert to perennial crop systems that allow us to farm the same plants for decades without plowing the land. Think fields of hazelnuts; forests of chestnuts; perennial wheat that grows for a decade between tillings.

Of course, people would have to accept a sharp rise in the cost of red meat, and the government would have to compensate farmers in many ways to offset their profit losses. For example, bring back CRP land programs that paid farmers to idle marginal farmland, and introduce a carbon sequestration fee that paid farmers for how much carbon their land sucked up annually.

[lastlib]

43. Until then, I'll enjoy my steak and bacon!

I've raised cattle and pigs. Cattle are dumber than rocks (though I will admit they have good survival sense, like anything that survives). and pigs can be amazingly destructive. To me, cows are steaks wrapped in shoe leather, and pigs are bacon in a football. Just my opinion, YMMV.

[NickB79]

45. No problem, I grew up on a farm

Cattle, pigs, chickens, a huge vegetable garden, and we hunted and fished too. I still eat meat, though I've cut back my red meat intake drastically in recent years.

I have no expectation that we as a species will kick our meat habit any time soon though. We'll eat massive amounts of grainfed beef and pork until the planet kicks us in the teeth, and by that point it will be too late.

[MLAA]

9. I worry about water shortage. I think it will be the critical factor.

[DFW]

11. I agree there. It's the not-so-hidden elephant in the room

To grow food--ANY food--water is needed, and we're running out of clean fresh water faster than most want to admit. Plus we're polluting the oceans so fast that the fish, seaweed and algae alternatives from that source will one day also be inferior to what is needed to sustain the human population. That day is probably approaching faster than many want to admit. When steaks cost $250 and a fresh salad costs $40, Trump and his pals will still get fat, but there will be food riots beyond the walls of the gated communities where he and his type will be forced to live.

I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but nor am I blind or deaf.

[NickB79]

24. Me too. That's why I want the Great Plains restored to native prairie and used for ranching again

Not much need for irrigation when prairie grasses send roots down 20 feet.

But yeah, it's inevitable that the Ogallalla aquifer will fail, probably within the next 50 years. It could be sooner, though, as climate change will be creating hotter, drier conditions across the Plains states that will require heavier watering needs.

The problem is, we need to start transitioning away from conventional plow-and-irrigate farming before the rains start to fail and the aquifers spit dust, or there won't be enough moisture to give native prairie species the 3-5 years they need to germinate, become established and drought-resistant.

[progressoid]

7. Bwahahahaha!!!

[SecularMotion]

8. Not a vegan, but I'm calling bullshit on this anti-vegan meme

The shelf of vegan products was most likely surrounded by prepared meals or produce that were ready to eat.

The vegan products were probably passed over mainly because they require some level of prep or cooking before eating.

[Thor_MN]

13. So how would that change anything? Your bullshit claim is meaningless.

The section that was left was something that people didn't want - for whatever reason. You must have assumed it was taste or something, and defended it due to preparation requirements?

The OP only claims that people didn't want it, which seems obvious.

If I wanted to cast doubt on the OP, I would suggest that it wasn't a vegan section, or that it had just been restocked when the suppliers of the neighboring sections have failed to do so.

[SecularMotion]

14. The meme implies that even people desperate for food(hurricaine/flood survivors) don't want vegan

Hurricaine survivors who lost their homes and belongings likely don't have the means to prepare meals.

Original reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/6xg16q/even_in_a_disaster_no_one_wants_the_vegan_food/

[Thor_MN]

15. Yes, they don't want vegan. Period. End of Story.

Doesn't matter WHY they don't want it.

You are attempting to explain WHY they don't want it. Which does nothing to refute that they don't want it.

[SecularMotion]

18. I guess we just have different opinions

I don't understand liberals who smear vegans.

[Thor_MN]

22. I'm making no claim about vegans, I'm pointing out that you are making no sense.

You say the OP is bullshit because the vegan food requires prep. You seem to agree that people did not want it. So your bullshit claim is non-nonsensical.


The OP makes no claim about WHY people don't want it.

[Igel]

37. Most of the vegan stuff requires light preparation.

Same for the stuff on either side that's left. Heat and serve.

It's not like we have to worry about all kinds of bacterial from the soybeans' intestinal tracts.

To some extent it's custom. You buy what you're used to.

To some extent it's price. Most of the vegan stuff I've seen is more expensive.

To some extent it's flavor. I like some things like black bean burgers. But I eat them (a) when I want them and not beef burgers or turkey burgers and (b) when I seriously distrust the meat option.

[NotASurfer]

12. And if you're on a gluten-free, soy-free, yeast-free, dairy-free diet...

most of the packaged meat and cheese substitutes are off-limits anyway. Kind of hits this stuff at both ends

[mr_lebowski]

25. Isn't vegan ... dairy-free?

I'm not totally up on the definition but I always kinda assumed it meant 'no animal products, period' ... and you even said 'cheese-substitutes', so ...

[NotASurfer]

31. When you read the labels, a lot of products sneak in whey protein

There are as many denominations of vegans as there are of Lutherans, debating the finer points of whether honey is an animal product.

I think I had a mental flash to when I'm trying to find food acceptable for someone with all of those allergies. Frustrating to read labels and find out almost nothing will be edible without consequence. And it's my "fault" if that happens, if I bought it.

[ProgressiveValue]

36. Gluten free.

Mankind has been eating wheat since we learned how to farm crops, now all the sudden everyone in the last five years has become allergic to gluten? I think most of these people just like the fad.

[Igel]

38. Mostly it's fad.

We don't feel well and need to blame something. Poor nutrition, bad sleep, too much stress, etc., etc. are blaming the victim, and we prefer to blame the protein.

That said, some people do suffer from it, because gluten consumption in large quantities is fairly new, and newer than most think. It's geographically restricted.

[Not Ruth]

16. I would get a can opener, if you are hungry enough, everything in a can is "edible" without cooking

Note, you must be hungry enough, and not too particular about fat, sodium, preservatives, hormones, etc.

[hunter]

17. More for me.

I know how to cook with tofu. The tofurkey sausages and chorizo are not bad.

But some stuff really isn't appealing to me, the vegan cheeses especially.

As other have noted, this shelf seems to be surrounded by ready-to-eat food, the sorts of things you buy to immediately feed hungry people without prep.

All in all, if I was hungry enough I'd rather eat slowly warming tofu out of the container than raw ground beef.

[sandensea]

23. Same here!

The only thing I don't like about a lot of these meatless cold cuts, sausages, and such is all the salt they typically use.

I'd use twice as much if they'd just use less salt (400-700 mg per serving!).

[crazycatlady]

44. Don't the conventional versions of the same products contain a lot of salt?

I'm sensitive to nitrates so sausages and cold cuts are off limits for me anyways.

[sandensea]

46. Sure - at least as much.

What I meant is that, given that these are health-conscious alternatives, they should contain a little less salt.

As far real ham and cold cuts, I haven't had one in 20 years. You're absolutely right about nitrates.

A great-uncle of mine had a small artisanal ham and sausage smokehouse. He told me once that the industrial establishments use nitrates mostly to rush the curing process and save time - because who cares about health risks to consumers right?

[crazycatlady]

47. I've been sensitive to nitrates since I was a kid

I remember the bacon for breakfast that always made me sick yet I was forced to eat. To this day, the smell of bacon knocks me down.

I was also given a hard time for saying that I only wanted cheese in my sandwich.

[Not Ruth]

34. I love fresh raw tofu, heated to about body temperature, in the liquid with hot sauce

[irisblue]

19. Tofurky Italian Sausages with peppers & onions on a roll, melted Mozzarella

is very enjoyable and tasty.
different folks and all that.

[cwydro]

20. That's pretty funny. nt

[MineralMan]

21. That's a pretty telling photograph, isn't it?

Interesting.

[Mariana]

30. Maybe.

My kid works in a supermarket and I showed her the picture. She laughed out loud, but she doesn't believe that stuff was left like that by shoppers. She thinks that section has been just restocked before the others for whatever reason.

[Pope George Ringo II]

26. What surprises me is that the rest of the refrigerables are gone

Having gone without power for a week after a hurricane, and known those who have gone much longer, I can't say refrigerated food is my first choice in that scenario.

[Igel]

39. Houston area population: 5 million.

Give or take a million, depending where you draw the boundaries.

Local utility infrastructure company: Fewer than 200k were without power.

Personal observation: Some of those had generators for use once the floodwaters receded.

In most areas, restaurants are open, gas prices are a bit higher but stations are open with no lines, grocery stores are restocked.

[Pope George Ringo II]

40. True enough, and I'd especially forgotten those who already had generators

But I was really thinking about before the flood hits when you never know who's going to have problems and for how long.

[LakeArenal]

27. Some folks should lighten up..

It's a joke. Just because we're told it was the vegan section are we sure those products are? Let me get out my magnifying glass.
It's a joke. Could have been staged... It's a joke.

Good one Shannon..

[Mariana]

32. My kid thinks it may have been staged.

She works in a supermarket. She said people who work in her store would absolutely do something like that on purpose for a joke.

[Warpy]

28. French toast is not vegan and people preparing for any disaster want their French toast

so the milk, eggs, and balloon bread always go first.

Vegan stuff is untouched mostly because it's so damned expensive.

[LakeArenal]

33. Mmmmmmm French toast.. mmmmm

[aikoaiko]

42. Now that you've mentioned French toast...

...I'm getting out of bed to make some.

[MLAA]

49. Vegan French Toast recipe

I haven't tried this one but have had vegan Banana French toast at restaurants...delicious.

https://minimalistbaker.com/5-ingredient-vegan-banana-french-toast/

[peacebuzzard]

41. I gravitate to this small section in every store,

I pick up staples only as needed: vegan buttery spread, organic hummus, then skip out on most other aisles to the organic produce, beans,org bread or pasta and org. Vegan milk.
Shopping trip complete.

If you avoid the packaged vegan entrees, prices are not too out of line.
You are right! This stuff is never out of stock, just check expiration dates.