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PETA has arrived in Houston (Original Post) TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 OP
Anyone who rescues animals is doing good. What's the problem? CurtEastPoint Sep 2017 #1
PETA euthanizes 99% of the animals it rescues TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #3
Lie Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #29
Nonsense. cwydro Sep 2017 #30
Most people saying things like this link to proof. Except you?? n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #32
I have to agree with your critics somewhat sarisataka Sep 2017 #34
I exaggerated. My bad. But their euthansia rate is way too high. TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #35
Your 99% number was sarisataka Sep 2017 #36
What is wrong with rescuing animals, they are more vulnerable than humans Not Ruth Sep 2017 #2
PETA's "rescue" could also be called sarisataka Sep 2017 #16
PETA MFM008 Sep 2017 #4
Yup TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #5
Fox News passes on a press release from the Center for Consumer Freedom? procon Sep 2017 #9
Is this better? LisaL Sep 2017 #11
Google for the info yourself TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #13
That's horrible! What's their excuse? lunamagica Sep 2017 #7
It's not an excuse, it's a belief system. They think they are doing it out of compassion. LisaL Sep 2017 #10
Well, I think it's cruel to kill a healthy dog. They take the easy way out. Hundreds of rescuers lunamagica Sep 2017 #14
Animals as pets MFM008 Sep 2017 #18
That is just insane. lunamagica Sep 2017 #24
Whats with the "scary" quotes? procon Sep 2017 #6
It's not fake news. In fact, it's pretty common knowledge TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #8
All other rescues have been onsite for a week. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #12
Save the sea kittens. cloudbase Sep 2017 #15
That would be one of these, right? jmowreader Sep 2017 #27
I'm sure the animals (and people) they help in this disaster yewberry Sep 2017 #17
This pretty much comes MFM008 Sep 2017 #20
Pretty sure that your misguided criticism yewberry Sep 2017 #21
And then kill them? GMAB! lunamagica Sep 2017 #23
Yes, of course. yewberry Sep 2017 #28
What's the point MFM008 Sep 2017 #39
Peta Considers Pets To Be Slaves Me. Sep 2017 #19
Fuck PETA. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #22
PETA is the org that wanted Ben and Jerry's to make ice cream out of human milk. longship Sep 2017 #25
I knew they were a littlle nuts, but had no idea they did this Motley13 Sep 2017 #26
It's not what people are making it out to be. yewberry Sep 2017 #31
They murder animals and have been known to take tags of and kill family pets...fuck PETA...terrible Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #38
remember when they protested the city of New York for trying to control the rat population? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #33
I dislike PETA as they kill animals. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #37

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
34. I have to agree with your critics somewhat
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:43 PM
Sep 2017

It is not 99%. However they are way far above any other group in euthanasia. 2013 was a good year where it was slightly under 75% of animals brought to them were killed.


The article this table comes from notes they adopted out 23 dogs and 16 cats in this year.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6612490

PETA usually is over 80% and has had years over 90% euthanasia rate.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
35. I exaggerated. My bad. But their euthansia rate is way too high.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:54 PM
Sep 2017

If they want to rescue animals in the flood and transport them to a shelter that specializes in adoption, I'll suppirt them.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
36. Your 99% number was
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:56 PM
Sep 2017

Correct for animals they fail to adopt. I suppose some of the difference is sent to other shelters which as the article notes somehow managed to adopt out 90-plus percent of animals with a far smaller budget than PETA

I'm sure some of their rescues will be given to local shelters or transported to their home location but I expect it will be a miniscule percent that survive the "rescue"

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
16. PETA's "rescue" could also be called
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:52 PM
Sep 2017

'putting to sleep'. They will likely kill more pets than the hurricane.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. Fox News passes on a press release from the Center for Consumer Freedom?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:00 PM
Sep 2017

Please check your sources:

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network (GCN)&quot is a front group run by Rick Berman's PR firm Berman & Co., originally primarily for the benefit of restaurant, alcohol, tobacco and other industries. It runs media campaigns that oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, animal advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.'

"http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom



Google for more info on this rightwing, Fake News bunch, and stop spreading their bullshit.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. Is this better?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:08 PM
Sep 2017

"In 2014, according to its own records, it took in 3,017 animals, about 1 percent of the total number brought to private Virginia shelters. Of those, PETA euthanized 2,455, or 81 percent. In some prior years, that rate has risen above 90 percent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/at-petas-shelter-most-animals-are-put-down-peta-calls-them-mercy-killings/2015/03/12/e84e9af2-c8fa-11e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html?utm_term=.bcdcfb3a74b0

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
13. Google for the info yourself
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:12 PM
Sep 2017

Here's a report, straight from the state.

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2016

http://travel.barkpost.com/good/op-ed-peta-euthanization-statistics-2015/

Frankly, I do not adopt from "no kill" shelters because they put an extra burden on shelters that do euthanize. I also think an animal suffers when it's kept for years in a shelter and it would be better to euthanize unadoptable animals. However, PETA has an exceptiinally high kill rate in their shelters.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. It's not an excuse, it's a belief system. They think they are doing it out of compassion.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:02 PM
Sep 2017

"I always wonder how anyone cannot recognize that there is a world of difference between painlessly euthanizing animals out of compassion—aged, injured, sick, and dying animals whose guardians can’t afford euthanasia, for instance—as PETA does, and causing them to suffer terror, pain, and a prolonged death while struggling to survive on the streets, at the hands of untrained and uncaring “technicians,” or animal abusers."

https://www.peta.org/blog/euthanize/

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. Well, I think it's cruel to kill a healthy dog. They take the easy way out. Hundreds of rescuers
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:20 PM
Sep 2017

take a long tome giving them vet care, shelter food and look for a home where they will be loved. I hope not many are "rescued" by them.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Whats with the "scary" quotes?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:53 PM
Sep 2017

Are you asserting that PETA does something horrible with the animals they rescue? Speak up with some FAQs or delete this unfounded Fake News.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
17. I'm sure the animals (and people) they help in this disaster
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 03:52 PM
Sep 2017

appreciate your continuing support of right-wing corporate lobbyists!

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
20. This pretty much comes
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:07 PM
Sep 2017

From Ingrid Newkirk herself.
They are about the politics.
I have no problem with that it's just you should be honest stop taking in animals just to put them to sleep because you think it's slavery for them to be pets.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
21. Pretty sure that your misguided criticism
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:17 PM
Sep 2017

will mean the world to the dogs, cats, chickens and people they pull out of the floodwaters.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
28. Yes, of course.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:03 PM
Sep 2017

That's why they brought the thousand pounds of food and the flat-bottom boat. To kill them. It all makes sense now.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
39. What's the point
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 10:08 AM
Sep 2017

If they turn around and euthanize them
They make a good show much like blotus in the shelter yesterday.
It's all about politics.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
19. Peta Considers Pets To Be Slaves
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:05 PM
Sep 2017

“Animals will never have the right to euthanize PETA's founder, Ingrid Newkirk. This, arguably, is the intellectual flaw at the core of her special interpretation of animal rights. For PETA, it is a political movement primarily focused on the right to determine when and how an animal should die. The decision is never reciprocal, however: Newkirk has the right to kill -- and PETA has killed tens of thousands of pets -- but her own life is protected by law.

People naturally assume that the animal rights movement is simply an extension of the human rights movement, and that it was developed by analogy. PETA's variant certainly employs some of the same language: they often refer to animal "slavery," and in fact recently attempted to use the 13th Amendment in a legal effort to free five orcas from SeaWorld.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/peta-animal-rights_b_1636097.html


“In a country that spends more than $30 billion on its pets each year and gets all misty-eyed over "Old Yeller," you really have to be an idiot to make affection for animals offensive. But that's what People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has done again, with their designed-to-shock traveling summer exhibit "Are Animals the New Slaves?"

By showing graphic pictures of lynchings and slavery alongside images of animals, the organization has unleashed a firestorm of bipartisan fury, while furthering one of the worst characteristics of this hyper-partisan era, the hateful hyperbole that threatens to make Holocaust, Nazi, and slavery comparisons a normal part of knee-jerk political discourse.”

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/petas-animal-slavery-insanity/18661/


“According to the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA has euthanized more than 33,514 animals since 1998 at its Norfolk shelter. In 2014, the group euthanized 2,454 of the 3,369 cats, dogs and other animals there. Most were “surrenders” – pets turned into shelters by their previous owners. Only 23 dogs and 16 cats were adopted.”

http://certifiedhumane.org/does-peta-have-the-right-to-determine-whats-humane-considering-their-view-on-animals/

longship

(40,416 posts)
25. PETA is the org that wanted Ben and Jerry's to make ice cream out of human milk.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:31 PM
Sep 2017

Imagine the new B&J flavors:

* I Can't Believe it's not Mother

* Nipple Ripple

Etc.

Fuck PETA!

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
26. I knew they were a littlle nuts, but had no idea they did this
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 04:40 PM
Sep 2017

I thought their thing was to protect animals. I know they are so against fur to wear & I agree

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
31. It's not what people are making it out to be.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:24 PM
Sep 2017

I'm not a huge fan of peta-type drama and their publicity stunts, but this thing about their euthanization numbers is a wild distortion.

Peta isn't an animal shelter in the way that most people understand them. They call themselves a shelter of last resort. There are different kinds of shelters: selective admission, open admission, and last resort. The selective-admission type (often no-kill) rejects unadoptable, sick, feral, or aggressive animals, or those that might be euthanasia candidates. Open admission shelters accept many that are rejected by selective-admission shelters (not all) but will humanely euthanize unadoptable animals. The last resort shelter accepts all animals and transfers adoptable animals back to open-admission shelters, and accepts animals for euthanization from both other types of shelters. That's why their numbers look so bad.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
38. They murder animals and have been known to take tags of and kill family pets...fuck PETA...terrible
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 06:02 PM
Sep 2017

organization...they gas thousand of animals. They nothing from me.

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