NBC says this is a pic of flooded chemical plant explosion. Whadda you think?

[dixiegrrrrl]

Link to tweet

[LisaL]

1. Apparently their only plan to keep those chemicals from exploding was

refrigeration. Once they couldn't refrigerate the chemicals, the explosions were inevitable. Why didn't they have back up plans other than refrigeration?

[juxtaposed]

2. they had generators but they were flooded also, from what i read

[LisaL]

9. The generators would have done the same thing, kept the chemicals refrigerated.

Again, refrigeration was the only way they planned to keep the chemicals from exploding. Not sure why they didn't have a plan to neutralize these chemicals.

[juxtaposed]

19. organic peroxides need to be chilled as a rule. there isn't a way I know of to neutralize these chem

cals.

[LisaL]

21. There are methods to neutralize them.

"Hydrolytic decomposition proceeds very slowly so stirring for 12 to 24 hours is required, and then organic peroxide is neutralized."

https://www.nof.co.jp/english/business/chemical/product01_06.html

[juxtaposed]

23. If you say so, So thousands of gallons only needs to be stired for a couple of hours?

[LisaL]

24. I don't say so. Read the link.

[juxtaposed]

26. I read it

[TheDebbieDee]

28. They didn't have a plan to neutralize these chemicals because the state of Texas

didn't require them to have a plan to neutralize the chemicals... At least, that's what Rachel Maddow inferred the other night on her show. This is the result of the de-regulation of chemical storage facilities in Texas.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. I heard someone on NPR express dismay

and disgust that they didn't have additional chemical means to control the chemicals. This came from someone who seemed to know what he was talking about. He indicated that keeping them cool is by no means the only alternative.

[NutmegYankee]

3. Where's the water?

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. and where is the layers of mud and trash that a receeded flood leaves?

You had a hurricane hit and make matchsticks out of lumber, then a flood, which would carried so much debris around with it, yet looking at a place that is "flooded" with no water, and no debris... hmmmm.

[LisaL]

13. There is no need for bizarre conspiracy theories.

This factory was flooded, Rachel had a show on it before the explosions took place. Explosions were inevitable because these chemicals were no longer refrigerated.

[LisaL]

10. Water is gone.

It doesn't matter, since they knew that once the chemicals were not refrigerated, explosions were inevitable. So they couldn't get back in there.

[Squinch]

33. Which means that, contrary to what you are saying, it IS quite odd that the paved areas and grass

look so pristine.

Have you ever been in an area right after a major flood drains away and before any cleanup? I have. It doesn't look like that.

[LisaL]

37. It was under water. People were reporting on it while it was under water.

There are videos of it while it was under water.
But lets propagate ridiculous conspiracy theories, shall we?

[HopeAgain]

4. Invisible flood water?

[LisaL]

11. You do understand that flood water eventually retreats?

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Those six or seven Reefers were rentals.

Appears there was not a plan in place or they just did not give a damn,to fill the Themo King fuel tanks . Talk about a really stupid move. Those trailers will hold temps below zero if properly maintained until the fuel runs out. If you look at the photos,first thing on notices is Semi Tractors pared next to a service shop. If this so called Company was worried about things going side ways. They would have someone or some persons with a boat and survival gear in or near in order to keep this equipment from running out of fuel. Hope XTRA Lease burns their butts big time for allowing this to happen.

[blogslut]

7. Here is some Twitter video from yesterday

Link to tweet

I understand there's no visible water but I don't know whether or not the flooding had already receded by the time that fire broke out.

[LisaL]

12. They knew they couldn't go back into the factory because explosions were inevitable once the

chemicals were not refrigerated.

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. still does not look right.

if you look closely, there are cars parked next to a building on the left side, in an area that they were saying they could not get to because it was flooded. But the cars look fine, so why are there clean cars?
and in a tracking shot, you can see several perfectly dry, clean roads leading to plant.

[LisaL]

18. There isn't enough tin foil in the world for all the conspiracy theories on DU.

What do you think actually happened? Do tell.

[dixiegrrrrl]

20. I have no clue what happened.

Just trying to make sense of the pictures they using along with the descriptive words they are using.

"explosion at flooded plant" suggests there should be some flooding of the plant.
going for the logic, not conspiracy thinking.
I am kind of literal sometimes.

[LisaL]

22. There was flooding at the plant. Explosions were expected because they couldn't keep the peroxides

refrigerated. Rachel had a show on it before the explosions took place.

[dixiegrrrrl]

31. The post-hurricane flooding I have seen close up looked much different.n/t

[LisaL]

36. Oh for crying out loud. People were reporting this plant while it was under water, because it was

known it was going to explode. Are you suggesting nobody noticed it wasn't actually flooded?

[Grassy Knoll]

25. Where It All Starts...

[Takket]

14. the fact the water receded doesn't mean the plant wasn't flooded.

[LisaL]

15. It was flooded. Rachel on MSNBC had a show on it before the explosions. The factory knew the

chemicals were going to explode. I guess DU can't live without some weird conspiracy theory.

[LeftInTX]

17. It's real

They lost power due to flooding and needed generators to keep those chemicals cool. There was too much water to run the generators. After the water receded, it was too late and too dangerous to do anything about it.

[kentuck]

27. All backups seem to have failed.

Are these chemicals by-products of making gasoline?

[LeftInTX]

30. The chemicals are "organic peroxides"

All I know is that it happened at a chemical plant. I don't know what they make or anything.

[jmowreader]

34. Nope, they're made intentionally

[L. Coyote]

29. Hurricane Hubris.

They got the name wrong!

[Squinch]

32. Ummmmm...... that's very green floodwater.... why, it looks just like grass!

[Crabby Appleton]

35. Here is a photo of the plant

when the plant was flooded, the building on the extreme right is where they parked the reefer trucks. The chemicals were put on trucks and moved from their normal place in the plant to the farthest place away from the rest of the plant to minimize damage.



In the BBC video at the top of the link below at about the 10 second mark you can see more.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41104451

[cwydro]

38. Certainly looks flooded. nt