I was speaking with a lawyer friend of mine

[louis c]

who is a Harvard educated labor lawyer, very well known.

He told me that Trump represents the worst of all possible clients.

He doesn't take his lawyers' advice and he doesn't pay.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

1. Some gol-danged LAWYER must have leaked that information.

How can he successfully serially screw lawyers if they talk about their experiences?

This has to be a violation of the Lawyer's Hammurabi Code or something.

Lock him up.

[FM123]

2. Even Matlock wouldn't defend him! Lol

[smirkymonkey]

3. So why does any self-respecting lawyer take him on as a client?

Surely not for the glory of defending the most incompetent, corrupt, failing president of all times. What is the payoff?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. They get to be on teevee.

The same reason criminal defense attorneys defend scumbags like George Zimmerman who can't pay.

[smirkymonkey]

9. Yes, I suppose that has a lot to do with it. It's unfortunate that publicity counts more

than ethics these days.

[Hortensis]

12. They don't. All 4 DC firms that do this top-level work refused him.

Reasons one stated were, yes, he doesn't pay his attorneys. I imagine the biggie was #2 -- he won't follow legal advice, guaranteeing massive embarrassment for the firm. The last 2 were current clients would be displeased to find their distinguished firm representing this creep (my word), and the best of the new grads would also be repelled and look for other firms.

You must have noticed that those who've agreed to represent Rump are profoundly unethical and totally lacking in the kind of brains and experience needed? They've made some very serious errors right out in public that legal experts have been discussing with amazement, but not surprise.

[lunatica]

14. They're obviously not self-respecting after knowing his history

Maybe they're so hard up that they think this might generate them clients of the sleazy type.

[Vinca]

4. Maybe when the checks bounce to the current lawyers he'll end up with the Crying Nazi's attorney.

(The guy who reportedly wears a 19th century, red waistcoat and mutton chop whiskers. )

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. Wait. Who does what?

[Vinca]

7. You heard it here first. LOL.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029544767

[Hassin Bin Sober]

8. Lol. Thanks!!

[cwydro]

10. Lol, I don't think one would need a Harvard education to know that.

Nor would one need to be a "very well known" lawyer.

I think we all know this.

[louis c]

13. I was just name dropping

<snip>As jurors in the “Top Chef” trial continue to deliberate in federal court in Boston, labor law specialists are eagerly awaiting word on whether the four Teamsters accused of trying to extort the television crew with threats, chest bumps, and lewd taunts would be convicted.

Alan H. Shapiro, a prominent labor attorney in Boston who represents public sector unions, said lawyers in his practice area are keeping tabs on the case.

At a recent labor law conference, Shapiro said, “people were aghast at what was going on” with the prosecution.

“I can tell you that people were very upset and very concerned with the use of these federal criminal statutes” to prosecute the men, said Shapiro, former staff counsel to the Massachusetts Labor Relations Commission.<snip>

Link:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/08/11/labor-law-specialists-eyeing-top-chef-verdict/o4sE3ycSAoTqDwbF8n0tsJ/story.html

[grantcart]

11. Remember the big stink about Trump University?

The reason that Trump went after the Judge was because the depositions had been released and now they were fighting to keep the video locked up. You can read the deposition below and tell that he is a terrible client

https://americanbridgepac.org/app/uploads/Trump-Deposition-Trump-University.pdf

For example he is asked about some names of instructors (he had stated in advertising that he hand picked the instructors).

After a couple of names he says:

·You'd have to give me a list.· You'd have to show me the list.·

You then have dozens of names read from a list, and he complains about the list. Then they ask him to identify photos, then video/audio clips.

If he had just answered "I can't identify any of them" it would have been over, but he wants to take on the attorneys and so it goes on for hours.

Another typical give and take:

Q.· · ·So construct for me a scenario --
· · · A.· · ·And we did have a lot of very good
instructors.· I mean, you can always find someone
who's maybe not so good or --
· · · Q.· · ·Can you name for me one good live
events instructor?
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· Objection; asked
· · · and answered.
· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I don't know the

instructors.
BY MR. FORGE:
· · · Q.· · ·Do you know a single good live
events instructor?
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· Asked and answered.
BY MR. FORGE:
· · · Q.· · ·Do you?
· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Am I supposed to
· · · answer that?
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· You've answered it
· · · many times.
· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· All I can say is --
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· Answer it again.
· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· All I can say is it's
· · · many years ago.· I've had very, very few
· · · complaints -- until this whole thing
· · · started, I've had very, very few complains.
· · · And I always have complaints if there's a
· · · problem with something I'm involved in.
· · · I've had very, very few complaints over the
· · · years having to do with this.
BY MR. FORGE:
· · · Q.· · ·Mr. Trump, I'm just asking you to
back up your own words.· You said, we --
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· Time out.
accurately describe your thoughts on promotion
and bravado?
· · · A.· · ·Sure.
· · · · · · ·MR. PETROCELLI:· Vague and
· · · ambiguous.
· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Sure.
BY MR. FORGE:
· · · Q.· · ·Mr. Trump, you never reviewed the
scripts that were provided to the live events
instructors, did you, sir?
· · · A.· · ·I don't believe so, no.

[gratuitous]

15. Trump gets himself in trouble

Attorneys are trained to listen to the answers a witness gives, and follow lines of questioning as they present themselves. Trump presents such a target rich environment, it's difficult to track a line of questioning down to the end. But after he claims that he received "very very few complaints" a couple of times, it's inevitable that someone is going to say, "Now, you said that before this lawsuit, you had received 'very, very few complaints.' Can you detail any of those complaints, and what you did to resolve them?"

In a press conference, time is limited and Trump doesn't do follow-ups, but in a deposition, time is virtually unlimited ("I'm going to ask that we leave the record open, and my client reserves the right to recall this witness.&quot , and follow-ups are inevitable.

[grantcart]

17. right, or

"so you admit that you have been getting complaints but now that people are aware of how to be heard there are a lot more complaints, how many complaints are you aware of and what were they saying?".

[DonaldsRump]

18. OMG: Trump is two degrees separated from OJ!

Trump's lawyer is Daniel Petrocelli, who won the civil verdict against OJ Simpson in the wrongful death case brought by the family of Ronald Goldman.

[csziggy]

16. That's been public knowledge for months if not years or decades

Why No Lawyers Will Represent Trump
by Martin Longman
June 6, 201

President Trump can’t find a top law firm that wants to represent him. He and his top aides have tried. They’ve looked around. They’ve had conference calls. But they got zip, nada, bupkis. The top litigators and their firms have various reasons why they won’t agree to represent the president of the United States. Here are some of them:

1. They won’t get paid.
2. Their client wouldn’t follow their advice.
3. They represent clients who have been or might be subpoenaed in money laundering aspects of the case.
4. It would destroy the image and reputation of their firm.
5. It would ‘kill’ efforts to recruit top lawyers to their firm.
6. They’ll be washing their hair that year (“I’m too busy to represent the POTUS.”)
7. He can’t be saved.

To me, that’s a damning list. Under ordinary circumstances, I can’t think of anything more prestigious for a law firm than to be able to say that when the shit hits the fan, they’re the ones who take the call from the president. But, with this president, they’re not even confident that the client won’t stiff them on their bill. They’re also savvy enough to realize that the Trump Organization is up to its ears in money laundering and that this will create a conflict with the large banking institutions they represent. And Trump is so toxic, guilty, and unsympathetic that simply advocating on his behalf would cause people to shun and disdain their whole organization. Plus, they’d lose the case anyway in part because their advice wouldn’t be followed.

More: http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/06/06/why-no-lawyers-will-represent-trump/

[Ms. Toad]

19. That's why you require a an advance deposit

in the amount to pay for the work requested, put in your trust account, and pay yourself from the trust account as you work it off.